At my wits end. Please help with load order.

[Remeciis]

I love the Fallout series and recently picked up the ultimate edition of New Vegas for 5 bucks during the Steam sale. If you guys are seeing a massive influx of newbies f***ing up their game with mods and needing help- that sale is probably the reason why. Well, I'm one of them. And for the past 2 weeks inbetween work,frustration, and enjoying other games I have tried to get NV to work and play stable. And I have failed. I've watched Gopher's vids tutorials on youtube. I've even tried copying some of his load order while trying to omit mods he has that I don't want. And the only thing I manage to do is make things worse.

 

I did what most people do and downloaded a lot of the top 50 most endorsed files of all time. I had Project Nevada, Neb's Texture pack, EVE, and Mikoto's beauty mod working fine- allbeit with a crash maybe every hour or so. Initially I only had three goals- I wanted the game to look as awesome as possible (hence the texture packs, EVE, and a weapon texture pack I don't ever think I got working), a bottle water mod to make Hardcore mode more sane, and for it to be tougher since my playthrough years ago seemed easy (so I installed HarderThanYou and tried AWOP today). Now the game will boot but immediately crashes when intering into Goodspring's salloon. I've wasted three times the amount of time that I've played the game watching videos and reading mod descriptions and trying to find help on a proper load order. a lot of these mods have patches to make them work with other mods and in an effort to make them work I've taken to deleting older versions of the mods or their paches or deleting some mods altogether to try and get the game to not immediately crash. All I've done is make things worse.

 

One thing I can't figure out is a lot of these mods suggest using FOMM yet getting that to work with NMM seems impossible. Has NMM completely eclipsed FOMM? Is NMM a version of FOMM? DO I need both or can I rely on just NMM?

 

And then there is BOSS. I got this after watching one of Gopher's vids on it but haven't taken anytime with it yet. The program has told me that all of the DLC for New Vegas has 'dirty edits' and links to a guide on how to fix this. if I can't get a damn load order working correctly, this is something I definitely dont want to delve into. Have I screwed up my saved game so badly that I will never be able to get it functioning correctly again?

 

One of the first steps I can think of taking is posting my installed mods and my load order and hoping maybe you guys can see some massive flaw that I can easily fix- so here goes:

http://i.imgur.com/myI7Pv2.png

 

 

 

 

 

 

And here are my instaled mods-

 

http://i.imgur.com/HLGAwIu.png

 

 

 

 

Trust me, I have tried to learn this on my own but I am at the point where any more involvement just on my own is just going to leave me 10 times more frustrated. I just want those listed mods to work properly without a crash. Thanks for any help. And the hell with AWOP or HarderThanYou- with my luck I'll just play the game on Hard and use Project Nevada's difficuly tweaks to make the game more challenging. Thanks for any help.

[Remeciis]

So I've watched yet another of Gohper's videos and have gotten nowhere. All I end up with are questions and more questions. BOSS reports that I dirty edits to some of theDLC game files and says I need to use FNVedit to clean them. Searching for how to clean only takes me to Gopher's vid on what FNVEdit is and what it does- which Ive already watched 3 times now.

 

And I bet if and when I do find out how to 'clean', it will only serve to break the game worse.

[gunslinger6792]

You're playing with mods for the most part I don't use so I don't know how they interact with one another. First thing though thats alot of mods if you downloaded them all at once. I'd strip the mods back to just vanilla stuff and slowly add mods in one or two at a time play the game for a bit and see how they work then repeat the process. It's a slow process but its your best way to trouble shoot. If you get do that way when the game starts acting up you'll be more easily able to see whats happening. Remember the bigger and more complex the mod the more likely it is to conflict with stuff.

[rbsdrummer]

Here's your problem: YOU HAVE AN .esm AFTER A .esp!!!!! This is one thing you must never do!

 

After you fix that, I hope it works, but Gunslinger is 100% right. I don't even add mods until I've beat the game vanilla. Now if you really want to understand FOMM and BOSS, you need to read the info on them. It's probably harder for us to explain it to you than for you to read their info.

[jazzisparis]

Here's your problem: YOU HAVE AN .esm AFTER A .esp!!!!! This is one thing you must never do!

That is not universally true. Any file, be it an ESP or an ESM, must be loaded before any other files that are depended on it.

[rbsdrummer]

Right, but a master file shouldn't depend on a plugin, so I don't see why anyone would need to load an esm after an esp. I think it should help if remeciis did fix this. But maybe not.. I didn't make Project Nevada.

[Paladin239]

Right, but a master file shouldn't depend on a plugin, so I don't see why anyone would need to load an esm after an esp. I think it should help if remeciis did fix this. But maybe not.. I didn't make Project Nevada.

I thought that any esp with a file header marked as an esm should always be loaded first?

Edited July 29, 2013 by Paladin239