Goodsprings Saloon of Death

[Reversed1]

Hello. I've recently decided that I wanted to dust off and play some Fallout New Vegas lately. So I updated my mods (the ones I could), downloaded a couple new ones that caught my eye, got rid of the ones that I can no longer find to update due to them being hidden or incompatable and decided to get started.

For some reason, at the beginning, most textures were glossy and/or black. Like a laser pistol or a mantis. No big deal, except for the game crashing every 15 minutes.

After words, once I cleaned up my mods a little, the texture issue stopped, but for some reason, every time I enter the Saloon, the floors and walls are black, Sunny Smiles doesn't speak, and trying to exit or restart crashes everything, making it so I have to sign in and out of my computer to get it working again.

 

I am not a smart guy. I can only sort of understand how to use Vortex. I have no idea what to do really.

I can post my mod list if it helps, i dunno if 83 mods is too much, or too little, or what...

 

Any help would be appreciated. I just wanna play my game. Thank you.

[MysteryMachineX]

Just guessing here, but strange texture errors and missing content like this is usually indicative of exceeding the plugin limit, though if you're only using 83 mods, that doesn't exactly fit. Here are some possible solutions you might want to try:

 

1. Try the Mod Limit Fix mod to see if it fixes that possible issue.

2. Try using mods to make your game more efficient, such as NVAC, NVTF, NVHR, and/or FNV4GB.

3. Try using FNVEdit to make a Merged Patch. It can help to make your game more stable.

[Reversed1]

Just guessing here, but strange texture errors and missing content like this is usually indicative of exceeding the plugin limit, though if you're only using 83 mods, that doesn't exactly fit. Here are some possible solutions you might want to try:

 

1. Try the Mod Limit Fix mod to see if it fixes that possible issue.

2. Try using mods to make your game more efficient, such as NVAC, NVTF, NVHR, and/or FNV4GB.

3. Try using FNVEdit to make a Merged Patch. It can help to make your game more stable.

Well if half worked? I couldn't figure out how to make a merged patch but the mods did make the room not black! Unfortunately, Sunny still couldn't speak and trying to leave still crashed the game. Maybe I should un/reinstall everything...

I'll keep trying to figure out how to make a merged patch though.

(The fact that my game is crashing every...minute-ish now must mean something's gone f*#@y...)))

Edited September 25, 2021 by Reversed1

[JimboUK]

If you do reinstall then make sure you use the 4GB patch, the black textures are related to a lack of available memory. If the other problems persist then post your load order, someone might spot an issue with it.

[Reversed1]

If you do reinstall then make sure you use the 4GB patch, the black textures are related to a lack of available memory. If the other problems persist then post your load order, someone might spot an issue with it.

I do have the 4gb patch...so maybe it is a load order thing. I wish I knew how to check it, I use vortex since it's fairly easy to understand and then use LOOT to sort the order. But maybe I messed up the order somewhere along the way.

[MysteryMachineX]

When you're having an error this massive, it's not the worst idea to just start over, particularly when you're not sure where you might have gone wrong. It's worth considering, especially to make sure you do the 4GB thing correctly.

 

As for your load order, as Jim said you can post it, but that would only really help if your load order is particularly disastrous.

[Reversed1]

Welp, I'm probably gonna start over then. Uninstall and reinstall everything. Thanks for the help. Here's my load order just in case though. Freshly sorted from LOOT. Again, thank you all for trying to help, I really appreciate it.

 

0 0 FalloutNV.esm

1 1 DeadMoney.esm

2 2 HonestHearts.esm

3 3 OldWorldBlues.esm

4 4 LonesomeRoad.esm

5 5 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

6 6 ClassicPack.esm

7 7 MercenaryPack.esm

8 8 TribalPack.esm

9 9 CaravanPack.esm

10 a YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

11 b BraveNewWorld.esm

12 c WMR.esm

13 d SomeguySeries.esm

14 e NVStripOpen.esm

15 f IntimacyOverhaul_v1.0.esm

16 10 Momod.esm

17 11 Companion Core.esm

18 12 RobCo Certified.esm

19 13 Project Nevada - Core.esm

20 14 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

21 15 CFWNV.esm

22 16 Caliber.esm

23 17 Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

24 18 Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

25 19 CaliberXgunrunners.esm

26 1a CaliberXhonesthearts.esm

27 1b oHUD.esm

28 1c YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

29 1d Unofficial Patch NVSE Plus.esp

30 1e WCP.esp

31 1f Logic and Consistency Fixes.esp

32 20 EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

33 21 Traits on level up NV.esp

34 22 WMR_DeadMoney_R.esp

35 23 WMR_DeadMoney_S.esp

36 24 WMR_GunRunnersArsenal_R.esp

37 25 WMR_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp

38 26 WMR_HonestHearts_R.esp

39 27 WMR_HonestHearts_S.esp

40 28 WMR_LonesomeRoad_R.esp

41 29 WMR_LonesomeRoad_S.esp

42 2a WMR_OldWorldBlues_R.esp

43 2b WMR_OldWorldBlues_S.esp

44 2c WMR_Vanilla_R.esp

45 2d WMR_Vanilla_S.esp

46 2e pipboy2500_edisleado.esp

47 2f M8B.esp

48 30 AllCompanionsEssential 2.0b.esp

49 31 Fellout.esp

50 32 Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp

51 33 CrimsonFactory Deluxe.esp

52 34 NVNovacApartament.esp

53 35 MNK-RHINOgaussRevolver.esp

54 36 WeaponModsExpanded.esp

55 37 WMR_WMX_Vanilla_R.esp

56 38 WMR_WMX_Vanilla_S.esp

57 39 All Weapon Sounds Overhaul .esp

58 3a WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

59 3b WMR_WMX_GunRunnersArsenal_R.esp

60 3c WMR_WMX_GunRunnersArsenal_S.esp

61 3d populatedcasino.esp

62 3e StripOpenMain.esp

63 3f ARESproject.esp

64 40 MBFNPCs.esp

65 41 TheBackpack.esp

66 42 BraveNewWorld-YUP.esp

67 43 BraveNewWorld-PN-Equipment.esp

68 44 WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

69 45 WMX-DeadMoney.esp

70 46 WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

71 47 WMX-HonestHearts.esp

72 48 WMX-EVE-AllDLC.esp

73 49 WMR_WMX_HonestHearts_R.esp

74 4a WMR_WMX_HonestHearts_S.esp

75 4b WMR_WMX_LonesomeRoad_R.esp

76 4c WMR_WMX_LonesomeRoad_S.esp

77 4d WMR_WMX_OldWorldBlues_R.esp

78 4e WMR_WMX_OldWorldBlues_S.esp

79 4f Courier Vests.esp

80 50 MikeBurnFire Complete.esp

81 51 AtomicWranglerCrier.esp

82 52 NewVegasBounties.esp

83 53 NewVegasBountiesII.esp

84 54 TheInheritance.esp

85 55 Russell.esp

86 56 NewVegasBountiesIII.esp

87 57 TheBetterAngels.esp

88 58 SomeguySeries Revamped.esp

89 59 The Hype Is Real.esp

90 5a NothingPersonalKid.esp

91 5b UnlimitedCompanions.esp

92 5c GooGooBars-1.esp

93 5d HelplessFalling.esp

94 5e LightUpAndSmokeThoseCigarettes_edisleado.esp

95 5f GRA-WRP-Patch-Two_Unofficial.esp

96 60 IMPACT.esp

97 61 ImplantGRX-ActivatorHotkey.esp

98 62 FNV Torsion Crossbow.esp

99 63 The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

100 64 FNVOppositeTraits.esp

101 65 ae86seiryuu.esp

102 66 ae86seiryuu_easy.esp

103 67 Duplet.esp

104 68 RobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.esp

105 69 Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp

106 6a Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp

107 6b Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp

108 6c Project Nevada - Old World Blues (No Cyberware).esp

109 6d The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

110 6e WeaponRequirementSystem.esp

[MysteryMachineX]

That's definitely more of a full mod list then just 83 mods. You've got 110 plugins! The only error we spot right away is that you have some ESPs above ESMs, and that's a big no-no. As for the the rest of your load order, we haven't used many of those mods and can't vouch for what LOOT decided to do. We do think it odd that it told you to put the MCM near the bottom though. We usually put it at the top. You're probably best off starting over and just testing in between installs as you go. This will help to let you know when you go wrong.

 

Oh, also, look into Archive Invalidation when you get the chance. Not sure if Vortex does anything for it, but that might be useful to know.

[Reversed1]

That's definitely more of a full mod list then just 83 mods. You've got 110 plugins! The only error we spot right away is that you have some ESPs above ESMs, and that's a big no-no. As for the the rest of your load order, we haven't used many of those mods and can't vouch for what LOOT decided to do. We do think it odd that it told you to put the MCM near the bottom though. We usually put it at the top. You're probably best off starting over and just testing in between installs as you go. This will help to let you know when you go wrong.

 

Oh, also, look into Archive Invalidation when you get the chance. Not sure if Vortex does anything for it, but that might be useful to know.

I'll try re-installing them then. Like I said at the start, I don't really know what I'm doing, I just hope for the best when I have vortex load the mods and LOOT organize them. I'll try to sort them properly. Thank you!

[JimboUK]

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