Selling your soul

[Lehcar]

So where, precisely, is the Dragonborn's spirit/soul going to go whenever he/she dies? The Thieves' Guild story arc has you selling your soul to Nocturnal, but if you become a werewolf (most likely to happen through the Companions quest line), then you become a child of Hircine and will go to his side when you mortal body perishes.

 

So most likely it's going to the possession of a Daedric Prince, since going to Aedra heaven (or wherever "normal" people go when they die) apparently doesn't take priority for whatever reason. But which DP gets dibs on the Dragonborn soul?

 

I kind of hope Hircine gets first priority on a werewolf DB's soul. He's cool, and his hunting grounds sound so awesome and fun. I totally wanna be one of his lovely pet werewolves.

 

It's definitely a lot more exciting than being forced to guard Nocturnal's temple.... that sounds agonizingly boring IMHO.

Edited July 31, 2013 by Lehcar

[Georgiegril]

The Dragonborn is the chosen of Akatosh.

I don't think any dabbling with the daedra would change that.

[Lachdonin]

First, there is no Heaven for Aedra worshipers. The souls of the dead pass into the Dreamsleave, where their memories are purged and the souls are reincarnated as new mortals. The class of soul determines what you can come back as, but for the Mortal Races, since their all Black Souls, they all come back as another intelligent, self realized creature with absolutely no memory of their previous existence.

 

The only way to escape this process of death and rebirth is A; through Daedra worship, in which case your soul seems to eventually fade into the Void (IE goes to Sithis) and B; by achieving CHIM.

 

Anyway, the PC's in TES games are above the common rabble. They aren't bound to the normal rules and restrictions on what happens to souls when you pass on. Exactly what happens, we don't know, but as i've stated elsewhere (rather frequently of late, it seems) i subscribe to the idea that the PC's are not agents of any gods, but of the Elder Scrolls themselves. When you 'die' you return to the Scrolls, regardless of whatever pacts you made with Aedra, Daedra or whatever else happens to dwell beyond Oblivion.

[Urtel]

Well i clearly remember that someone promised Db a place in Sovngard.

Though Sovngard is only for nords. That is a very interesting aspect.

And actually even more proves what Lachdonin said above.

[rattlemebones]

If the Dragonborn has the soul of a dragon, then like the other dragons (which I am calling Wyverns from now on) they could be resurrected like the other Wyverns by being shouted at. Therefore the Dragonborn's soul goes wherever other Wyvern souls go, and that means that a Dragonborn can only be really killed forever by another Dragonborn. Dragonborns have no afterlife then besides where Wyvern souls go.

[snexaccount]

It amused me the last time I went through the Nocturnal ritual to note the player never really pledges much of anything. They're just sort of there while it all goes on. I didn't even hang out where I was supposed to while the talky talk was going on. It was sort of like "Oh yeah, Bob's TOTALLY good for one soul, now hook us up" while Bob is off in the other room getting a beer out of the fridge.

 

In general, most of the daedra don't seem to care all that much about the whole soul selling ritual either; it's their followers that make a big deal of it. You can tell more than one that you're not interested in their terms, and they'll tell you they don't really care about the terms either because you'll still be doing what they want. The daedra seem more interested in actions than words. There's really an overall theme of ending up where you BELONG, rather than where you agree to go.

 

In any case, I agree with Georgiegril; your character's really bigger than most of these arrangements with daedra and such.

Edited August 1, 2013 by snexaccount

[Relativelybest]

The Dragonborn is the chosen of Akatosh.

I don't think any dabbling with the daedra would change that.

 

Yeah, "take it up with Akatosh" is pretty much my main character's default approach to this.

[BloodrendX001]

Considering all the deities that lay claim to your soul in the average playthrough, you can expect all of Mundus, Oblivion and Aethurius to be blown up from those deities fighting for your soul. Guess that would leave Alduin unemployed....

[Lachdonin]

 

The Dragonborn is the chosen of Akatosh.

I don't think any dabbling with the daedra would change that.

 

Yeah, "take it up with Akatosh" is pretty much my main character's default approach to this.

 

 

Akatosh doesn't really seem to care. In fact, none of the Divines seem to give a rats ass. They don't even take souls into their 'domains' when you die, they stick them through the Dreamsleave and send them back. None of the Aedra would have Aetherius sullied by mortal souls.

 

In fact, the Divines are a generally detached bunch. They rarely get involved in Mortal affairs, and the only time they've actually, WILLINGLY offered aid was when the Nerevarine went on his crusade against Dagoth Ur. Even Martin's mantling of Akatosh can roughly be summarised by - Akatosh; "What? Where? Who? Dagon, GTFO! Peace out bromegos"

 

The last thing the Divines want to do is worry about who gets what souls. They're barely functioning zombie-gods for crying out loud.

[MidbossVyers]

First, there is no Heaven for Aedra worshipers. The souls of the dead pass into the Dreamsleave, where their memories are purged and the souls are reincarnated as new mortals. The class of soul determines what you can come back as, but for the Mortal Races, since their all Black Souls, they all come back as another intelligent, self realized creature with absolutely no memory of their previous existence.

 

The only way to escape this process of death and rebirth is A; through Daedra worship, in which case your soul seems to eventually fade into the Void (IE goes to Sithis) and B; by achieving CHIM.

 

Anyway, the PC's in TES games are above the common rabble. They aren't bound to the normal rules and restrictions on what happens to souls when you pass on. Exactly what happens, we don't know, but as i've stated elsewhere (rather frequently of late, it seems) i subscribe to the idea that the PC's are not agents of any gods, but of the Elder Scrolls themselves. When you 'die' you return to the Scrolls, regardless of whatever pacts you made with Aedra, Daedra or whatever else happens to dwell beyond Oblivion.

Based on Vicente's words in Oblivion, Daedra worship is different from Sithis worship.