Sp4rxx Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Good Evening All - It's my first ever post in the forum and I hope I am putting this in the right place. Below is my mod list. I have SKSE installed (not the latest, the version before the latest), LOOT & MO2 installed; along with FNIS (to run the 'user' file when necessary) and SSEEdit for auto-cleaning mods. The problem is this: all the 'factions' or pre-determined enemies are now my allies or at the very least, neutral. I am Dawnguard & a Stormcloak. When I attack vampires, Imperials, combatant creatures (like wolves, sabertooth cats, giants, etc.) they 'flinch' for a split second like they're about to turn on me then go docile. The talk to me (other than creatures of course) while I'm killing them like it's an everyday occurrence. They NEVER turn to red dots on my compass. When I have followers, THEY trigger the combatant responses and fight only amongst themselves: followers vs. "enemy" NPCs. The only time I ever take damage is if there is AoE from the enemy that is trying to attack a follower near me. I am never targeted. I thought it was because of my high level of Sneak, but eventually it turned out that even attacking a guard did nothing - he or she just kept warning me until he or she was dead I'm trying to include a screenshot of SSEEdit, where Skyrim.esm (and I'm willing to bet other .esm files as well) depict me being as little as neutral and has high as allies with Bandits (that's another example of an "enemy" NPC acting nicey nice with me like we're best of friends) - but no matter what I choose, I keep getting messages that it's not allowed. I don't know what mod did it, nor do I know how to fix it. I'm not skilled enough (unless provided with an in-depth tutorial) to be able to edit the esm files directly, if I'm even supposed to anyhow. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmUnofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.espBSAssets.esmMajesticMountains_Landscape.esmFISS.esp3DNPC.espMajesticMountains_Moss.espRealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esmBSHeartland.esmCampfire.esmRaceCompatibility.esmWyrmstooth.espSexLab.esmCreatureFramework.esmSexLabAroused.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmSkyUI_SE.espDestructible Skyrim.espSMIM-SE-Merged-All.espImmersive Wenches.espFNIS.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espBook Covers Skyrim.espELFX - Exteriors.espCutting Room Floor.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.espSeranaDialogAddon.espBetterQuestObjectives.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espSRC_ERS.espFTF_Core.espSRC - All In One.espELFX Fixes.espBleed Them Dry - DG+DB.espBlendedRoads.espMajesticMountains.espSunDaytimeNorth_MM_default.espMFF_Core.espBriDraugrOverhaul.espCarryWeight x100.espChesko_WearableLantern.espCompletionist.espDivinePunishmentForArrowsToTheKnee.espDaedricPunishmentForSweetrolls.espDragonPunishmentForCloudDistrict.espDeadlySpellImpacts.espDirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.espHelgen Reborn.espMoss Fix.espELFX - Weathers.espIcePenguinWorldMap.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-Medium Script Range.espEBT - IC PATCH.espBetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.espBetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.espBetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.espFireAndIceOverhaul.espHeadhunter - Bounties Redone.espmoonpath.espJRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.espEmbersHD.espImmersive Patrols II.espSexLab-AmorousAdventures.espTrophies.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espSOSRaceMenu.espXPMSE.espAll Geared Up Derivative.espHeadhunter_AllGUD_Support.espHeart Breaker SE.espHearthfireMultiKid.espHearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp3DNPC0.espMark Books as Read.espMaximumCarnage.espMfgFix.espRandom Emotions.espMorePainfulNPCDeathSounds.espQuickLight.espRichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.espBarenziahQuestMarkers.espUnlimitedFastTravelMCM.espVeydosebrom Regions.espVioLens SE.espEstherProtectionRingSE.espTouchedbyDibella.espCBBE.espDeadlyMutilation.espFootprints.espFluffy Snow - BlendedRoads Patch.espCShacks.espRUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.espJS Dragon Claws - Helgen Reborn Patch.espJS Dragon Claws - Wyrmstooth Patch.espShirley.espSRC - All In One - 3DNPC Patch.espRaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.espSuperbSerana.espSexLabMatchMaker.espABBA.esp3BBB.espArmana.espWabbawabbabow.espRaceMenuMorphsTBD.espSexlab ABBA Voices.espABMM.espMassMatchMakerSE.espASIS-Dependency.espSDA-AA Patch.espDSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.espUltimateCombat.espBBD_SkyrimFishing.espnotice board.espForgottenCity.espMissives.espMissives - Heartland.espBountiesRedone_Missives_Bruma.espMissives - Solstheim.espBountiesRedone_Missives_Solstheim.espMissives - Wyrmstooth.espBountiesRedone_Missives_Wyrmstooth.espBountiesRedone_MissivesExtension.espBountiesRedone_NoticeBoard.espHeadhunter Missives- SRC-Radiant Patch.espHeadhunter NoticeBoard SRC Radiant Patch.espNotSoFast-MainQuest.espDestructibleDisplayCases.espDestructible Display Cases - Race Compatibility Patch.espSimplyKnock.espSimply Knock - Tower Stone Fix.esp3DNPC - CRF Patch.espBetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.espGDOS - Glorious Solitude Door - Rotation Fix.espGDOS - Splendid Mechanized Dwemer Door.espUIExtensions.espJewelry limiter.espSCS_Currency.espCustomizeGameSettings.espSave Console Commands.espNPC Death Alerts.espConsume Loose Items.espMark and Summon Friends.espMark and Recall Menu.espImmersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.espLandscape For Grass Mods -Immersive Citizens PATCH.espImmersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.espELFXEnhancer.espImmersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.espRealisticWaterTwo.espELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp I've followed many a'modder in this community and I trust your skills and judgements. Please let me know if you can help. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsharaMeradin Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) You can upload an image to the Nexus image share and then link the image here. If you put the image in the "Hidden" category, it will only be viewable in your personal gallery and wherever you specifically share the image. At any rate, if you load your entire load order in SSEEdit and locate an offending faction, you can see all the plugins that made a change to that faction directly. If you cannot see one that made a direct edit to the player relationship, then it was probably done by script. A change like this done by script will be hard to track down. May end up needing to test on new games while adding a few mods in at a time until the issue reappears. Then remove the last group and add them in one by one while testing. Once you find the one that triggers the issue, test it all by itself. It is always possible that alone the mod is fine but in combination with others, the issue appears. EDIT: Added link to the add image page. Edited October 16, 2021 by IsharaMeradin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConShay Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Something may have inadvertantly triggered the AI detection mechanism, you can try enter the console command "tdetect" to toggle it back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConShay Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Take a look at this post, they had an issue with immersive creatues which I see is in your load list. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/10601663-all-npc-are-not-hostile/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sp4rxx Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) Take a look at this post, they had an issue with immersive creatues which I see is in your load list. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/10601663-all-npc-are-not-hostile/ OMG that did it! I also had a patch (allegedly called v0.27) from "Patch Central" for the old 6.x version of the mod. I removed that patch mod completely and both group and solo triggers aggro! YAY!!! Thank you so much!!! 1. I'm not sure why LOOT didn't pick up on that and2. I really wish I would have found that article - it never triggered in my Google searches Edited October 17, 2021 by Sp4rxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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