skyquest32 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Here we are, born to be kings, we're the princes of the universe, here we belong, fighting to survive in a war with the darkest powers....sorry but the soul thing always reminds me of that....you know highlander. I think there is even a mod to make it look like that. I did not get you meant that and not just general wow like enchanting, which I guess i subconsciously must just think of as a trade skill. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyralux Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) It isn't evil to kill for sustenance, so killing for a soul should have the same concept. Except Maiq the Liar says that he was once soul-trapped and it wasn't pleasant. Even in a "white gem" the animal apparently is still conscious. Still sounds cruel if I think about it; yet I do use enchanted items if I come across them. But what I really would like to do is play a game without any enchanted items whatsoever*. Would have to get a powerful sword and some tactics. I already don't use armor (most looks like an insect) and use regular clothes...except for now getting into Frostfall then the Hypothermia mods, where fur armor rules for the warmth. _______________*Would still have to absorb dragon souls, as critical to the game. However, I/we are much more passive in that as not setting out to absorb dragon souls. Kill a dragon in self-defense, and its soul is automatic. EDIT: Upon further reflextion, and on what Maiq said about once being soul-trapped, I can see that using an enchanted weapon both helps fight a greater evil AND eventually releases the soul upon the weapon's depletion. So I guess using enchanted weapons and picking-up already filled soul gems is a means of releasing trapped souls. I no longer kill animals for souls, or at all except perhaps in self-defense. Yet, I even try to avoid cats, bears and wolves if possible. Even dodged dragons, but usually not looking for a fight at that time. Unless it looks like the dragon will be an immediate danger to others...same with beasts. Heck, I even sometimes think that fighting the Forsworn is not good. They usually don't come looking for me and are just trying to hold onto their native lands. Is there a thread on that? :smile: Ha, I'm not sure about the Forsworn thread but I certainly sympathize and even share your views on many aspects of your play-style. I really find an interest regarding the customs in Tamriel that we may have thought was strange at first, but eventually started to think nothing of it, soul gems in particular. I remember picking Oblivion up for the first time and being revolted at the idea of soul trapping something to use as a battery but it never was mentioned as something remotely wrong and no one seemed to mind except in Black Soul gems. This is something I hope they actually address in later titles. Hey guys, I was planning on making a new character and like many of you, started planning ahead on his skill development. I myself haven't ever attempted to play a "dark" character, preferring to be somewhere in between Good and Neutral. I had decided to go for a Nord battlemage and found myself reaching a brick wall when it came to what profession skill I wanted to spend my time on. I find myself being a bit hesitant on enchanting purely for its "Soul Consumption". What do you guys think? I would also love to hear more of the process of soul gems. Do you think that it pushes the boundaries to take an animal or human's life energy?In my view that's just plan silly, you wont be able to sympathize with a lot of complicated people in skyrim, even the whiterun jarl has a court wizard if no real magic himself, and every starting character gets two spells by default. I'm sure the jarl could set someones butt on fire, put them out, then heal them if he really wanted to. The storm cloak guy? Forget about it. If your having problems with this, enchanting, then what about serana? Not being rude, just curios...any moral judgments on her for being a daughter of cold whatever? Prob wont be down loading the marriageable serana mod will you? I know that's assuming much but I don't think a paladin in many games would have a problem enchanting there stuff or wearing stuff that is, same difference really. Hmmm, not sure I understand exactly what you mean here. My character, would definitely not feel disdain for those who use magic or even use soul gems, but choose to not partake in the use or creation of soul gems himself. A moral dilemma regarding Serana is simply crushed under the weight that the ritual was either pushed upon her or was pressured by her family, so my character would have problems trying to see her as a monster. Also, on your paladin note, I agree whole-heartedly but this is the only series I have came across that requires the harm of another to create so it isn't as simple. Edited March 4, 2016 by hyralux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivala Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Hmmm, not sure I understand exactly what you mean here. My character, would definitely not feel disdain for those who use magic or even use soul gems, but choose to not partake in the use or creation of soul gems himself. A moral dilemma regarding Serana is simply crushed under the weight that the ritual was either pushed upon her or was pressured by her family, so my character would have problems trying to see her as a monster. Also, on your paladin note, I agree whole-heartedly but this is the only series I have came across that requires the harm of another to create so it isn't as simple. Great points, also don't forget Serena is a character in catharsis, she obviously (consciously or unconciously) wants to change, even she herself doesn't know into *what* , changing her stance in regards to her familiy for instance. She reflects the PC in a sense. This is why she is one of the more interesting vanilla NPCs. Edited March 4, 2016 by Shivala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyquest32 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Great points, also don't forget Serena is a character in catharsis, she obviously (consciously or unconciously) wants to change, even she herself doesn't know into *what* , changing her stance in regards to her familiy for instance. She reflects the PC in a sense. This is why she is one of the more interesting vanilla NPCs. In my game she the princess I marry, (with marriageable Seranna) shes a heroine, no doubt, and after the story line has her dignity and honor are restored and as as my queen. No need to give up her immortality for that. She can make it her own instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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