Need help with random CTD (log and mod list attached)

[hentaishinri]

Just another CTD topic...
I bought a new computer and put my old hard-drive on it.
I started ModOrganizer (since thats what I'm using), I updated all the old mods, made a wryebash patch and started the game.
Now it crashes occasionaly without any real context, it's so random that I can't figure out what's causing it.
Sometimes it's when I travel, sometimes when I hit... I was once afk in my house for 2 minutes and when I came back it had crashed.
So yeah, I would appreciate your help, thank you :smile:

EDIT: Boss now says this:

• Note: The order of plugins set by BOSS differs from their order in its masterlist, as one or more of the installed plugins is false-flagged. For more information, see "file:../Docs/BOSS%20Readme.html#appendix-c False-Flagged Plugins".

Edit (30.08): Most recent papyrus log (I tried hosting it somewhere online, but there isn't a website that hosts text files that big)

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EDIT: Most recent BOSS log (03.09)

 

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Edited September 3, 2013 by hentaishinri

[M48A5]

Do you have this Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+ , RND_Water-Patch.esp and Armor Pack I & II?

[hentaishinri]

  On 8/26/2013 at 7:21 PM, M48A5 said:

Do you have this Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+ , RND_Water-Patch.esp and Armor Pack I & II?

Well I have Java, I don't have realistic needs and diseases at all..

And yeah I have the armor packs.

[hentaishinri]

anyone? D:

[hentaishinri]

bump

[hentaishinri]

bump :/ (still no change ingame)

[c0c0c0]

How often are you crashing? This is a fairly heavily set of mods you are running so the occasional CTD is not that unusual. It's kinda the price of admission.

 

With "random" CTDs, the most likely causes relate to memory spikes. These can be caused by HD textures, scripts, and ESP conflicts. In any combination, or none. Nothing in your load list sticks out as something nobody in their right mind runs, so I'm betting it's the overall combination.

[hentaishinri]

  On 8/30/2013 at 1:03 PM, c0c0c0 said:

How often are you crashing? This is a fairly heavily set of mods you are running so the occasional CTD is not that unusual. It's kinda the price of admission.

 

With "random" CTDs, the most likely causes relate to memory spikes. These can be caused by HD textures, scripts, and ESP conflicts. In any combination, or none. Nothing in your load list sticks out as something nobody in their right mind runs, so I'm betting it's the overall combination.

I don't have HD textures, I don't have anything that improves textures at all (except better landscape, some facial mods and some clouds mods... thats it) and what is "Nothing in your load list sticks out as something nobody in their right mind runs" supposed to mean? that I'm not in my right mind to run those mods?

I do, though, have a lot of script depending mods... actually, almost all the mods I use are those...

I'd also like to point out that I have reached too far into the game and I don't want to start a new game, just so I can lose a couple of mods taht "could be" the cause.

I would also like to point out that I didn't had these "memory spikes" before, I was running perfectly fine, on a even slower PC... so yeah, idk what to do.

 

 

 

 

[hentaishinri]

  On 8/30/2013 at 1:03 PM, c0c0c0 said:

How often are you crashing? This is a fairly heavily set of mods you are running so the occasional CTD is not that unusual. It's kinda the price of admission.

Oh, to answer that - not in any particular set of time... I played 4 hours yesterday and crashed when I went into a cave.

I ragequit for teh whole day. I started the game today and played for 40 minutes and crashed when I was hit by a fireball.

The other day I crashed when I fell down (I jumped with my horse from a cliff) and I was playing for about an hour...

to be fair, the only thing taht I've noticed is that I can't play more than 4-5 hours, but other than that it's mostly random...

Most of the crashes occur when im transitioning areas, to be honest, if that makes sense (around 60% of the crashes are from transitioning)

[c0c0c0]

  On 8/30/2013 at 5:28 PM, hentaishinri said:

what is "Nothing in your load list sticks out as something nobody in their right mind runs" supposed to mean? that I'm not in my right mind to run those mods?

 

Just the opposite. I didn't see anything particularly risky. There is no obvious culprit, to my eyes.

 

  On 8/30/2013 at 5:28 PM, hentaishinri said:

I played 4 hours yesterday and crashed when I went into a cave.

...

the only thing taht I've noticed is that I can't play more than 4-5 hours, but other than that it's mostly random...

 

Hate to say it but, that isn't that bad. I'd be a mighty happy man if I only crashed once in 1-4 hours of play. And the fact that it's worse than is use to be is also pretty normal. Save files seem to accumulate "cruft" over time and become more and more unstable.

 

Maybe someone else can see something in your load that's shifty but the problem you have described to me pretty much sounds like life in the fast lane. More mods = less stability.