Is Fallout: New Vegas worth playing for the first time in 2022?

[Radioactivelad]

Or we just don't make weird, combative assumptions about people, or we just figure by the fact they're asking in the first place they're at least vaguely interested in the game, even if it's not something they usually play based on the small sample of titles they mentioned.

Edited June 1, 2022 by Radioactivelad

[masterdirector]

My biased opinion? Start with Fallout 3, then do New Vegas. Do you own either game already? If you already own both or pick up both, then you could set up A Tale of Two Wastelands, which is a set of mods that puts both Fallout 3 (Set mostly in Washington DC) and New Vegas into one game. You get some of the New Vegas improvements in Fallout 3. The guide to set it up is tedious, especially if you're a n00b like me at applying mods to games (I sure as hell can't make my own mods), but worthwhile, and way easier than blindly trying to apply random mods yourself. Here's a guide for that: https://thebestoftimes.github.io/intro.html

 

If you'd rather do just New Vegas, there's a guide for that:

https://vivanewvegas.github.io/intro.html

 

I also recommend looking up GamerPoets Fallout NV stability videos on his channel. He goes a little fast, but just rewind til you get it. It starts making more sense once you've installed a few mods. I recommend Mod Organizer 2, which seems to often get called simply Mod Organizer, MO, or MO2.

 

I wouldn't start with Fallout 4 because that'll make it harder to want to try Fallout 3 or New Vegas. Fallout 4 is a great game, too, but what others have said about it being more shallow isn't incorrect. There are a lot of almost useless side quests that are repeatable and annoying, but initially they are presented as if important. The main story of Fallout 4 is decent, but it's not as good as the previous games. It's still worth playing for sure. Some of the underground railroad stuff is cringe. The Institute stuff is a little odd, but interesting, although it could've been better. I haven't done anything with Fallout 4 mods. It was a much more stable game for me on PS4. Not perfect, but night and day more stable than PS3 Fallout 3. Still, I'd play it last on whatever you play it on. Welcome to the wasteland. Get ready to spend a lot of time wandering around exploring and looting.

[zen3001]

 

primarily because they were so mechanically simple

new vegas is mechanically more complex than those shooters, the shooting also feels very janky compared to doom and half life, I'd say some mods to smooth out the game are nescessary and even than the jank in combat will still be their, I didn't like witcher either, but not because of lack jankiness, but just because the quest had me really bored. this is the thing the new vegas excells at, the writing and immersion into the world.

 

it's a role playing game, while combat is a big part of of the game you need to imagine that you need a lot of none combat skill to survive the wasteland.

[zen3001]

 

While Bethesda has gotten better, their old games are still fun.

 

That depends on your definition of "better".

 

The graphics are better.

 

The games are still buggy as all heck. This seems to be getting worse instead of better.

 

Role playing is going downhill quick. It used to be that Bethesda was the undisputed king of the RPG. Now they either can't or won't make a proper RPG. Newer games have no depth. This goes both ways though. Their newer games are designed more for casual gamers. If you are the type of person who can play through Skyrim and not even realize that there's a civil war going on, then the newer games are better. But if you are a role player who likes to immerse themselves in games, Bethesda is no longer for you. Fallout 4 has all of the depth of a shallow puddle. Skyrim's puzzles are designed for kindergarten kids. Quests hold your hand every step of the way, because heaven forbid you should have to actually think about something. It's all completely brain-dead, and mind-numbingly boring.

 

Fallout 4's combat system makes New Vegas feel clunky and outdated. Fallout 4's power armor actually feels like power armor. Fallout 3 and NV power armor is just like putting on an outfit. Once you've played Fallout 4, Fallout 3 and NV's power armor doesn't even feel like power armor.

 

After Fallout 4 and Fallout 76, I have no hope at all for the Fallout series. Fallout as an RPG seems to be dead. Maybe they'll revive it, but I doubt it.

 

I don't have much hope for the Elder Scrolls series either. I expect Elder Scrolls 6 to be even more brain-dead than Skyrim. I expect it to have a completely formulaic main quest. I expect side quests to be shallow and undeveloped. I expect loot boxes and an emphasis on Creation Club instead of a focus on the actual game. I expect ham-fisted writing and huge plot holes. I expect a game that is so buggy that it will almost be unplayable.

 

I have the same expectations for Starfield. It's emphasis is going to be on making money, so again, Creation Club and loot box type nonsense instead of making a good game. I expect poor writing, shallow quests, and bugs. Lots and lots and lots of bugs.

 

So yeah, some things have gotten better, but a lot of things haven't. In many ways Bethesda has gotten a lot worse.

 

It used to be that I would buy any Bethesda game as soon as it came out. Not any more.

 

starfield's graphics are actually underperforming for our time, they've said that they want to return to more RPG mechanics tho, we'll see what happens, definitely not preordering tho