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Like a junkie needing a tech advice fix....

 

The wife finally surrendered to the inevitable and decided to start from scratch. (Mainly because she can't get past a Diplomatic Immunity glitch to finish the Alduin quest line.) So Uninstalled EVERYTHING and started the tedious process of reinstalling EVERYTHING. This time around, I kept the mods down to those that are in my mix and working OK (more or less). Even BOSS is working fine:

 

BOSS

Version 2.1.1

Summary

SKSE Plugins

Recognised Plugins

Unrecognised Plugins

Log Feature Support

Display Settings

Filters

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Dawnguard.esm Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

HearthFires.esm Active

Dragonborn.esm Active

ApachiiHair.esm Active

SPIKE.esm Active

XFLMain.esm Active

Note: For safe mod uninstall see special uninstallation instructions on mod page.

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active

JK Crafting Breakdown.esp Active

Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp Active

Perks Unbound.esp Active

Perks Unbound - Dawnguard.esp Active

Perks Unbound - Dragonborn.esp Active

smithingExtended.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Convenient Horses.esp Active

Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active

Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp Active

Note: Will conflict with mods that modify existing recipes.

HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp Active

HarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp Active

HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp Active

SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp Active

AdalMatar.esp Active

Note: V1.1+: This file contains 3 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically, and which are reported by the mod author to be harmless artifacts from Creation Kit export.

DragonmournInn.esp Active

Warning: This file contains 4 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.

Milan's PAck.esp Active

MouthoftheWorld.esp Active

RiversideLodge.esp Active

Run For Your Lives.esp Active

When Vampires Attack.esp Active

TheDomain.esp Active

Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.

TheFrontier.esp Active

Wyrmstooth.esp Active

AddChoices01.esp Active

Better Blacksmithing.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp Active

Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Active

Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Weightless).esp Active

Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp Active

Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp Active

Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Weightless).esp Active

Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp Active

Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp Active

Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active

TanningSmeltingExp.esp Active

Helgen Reborn.esp Active

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Active

ELFX - Exteriors.esp Active

ELFXEnhancer.esp Active

HarvestOverhaulCreatures_IMCN_Compatibility_Patch.esp Active

dovahkiin_levitate_spell.esp Active

JulesRankPerks.esp Active

training_costs_1_x1_x1.esp Active

training_costs_20_x2_x3.esp Active

training_costs_10_x2_x3.esp Active

training_costs_20_x1_x1.esp Active

training_costs_5_x2_x3.esp Active

training_costs_10_x1_x1.esp Active

training_costs_5_x1_x1.esp Active

XFLDialogue.esp Active

XFLPlugins.esp Active

specializedfollowers.esp Active

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Active

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active

 

 

 

The current problem is that the game simply will NOT start: Splash screen, "boom, boom-boom" audio, then CTD. Never even make it to Main Menu. The CTD occurs whether I use the Steam shortcut or the SKSE_loader.exe shortcut. (But the Steam shortcut at least opens up the Steam Skyrim panel (the one with Data files).

 

Here's the NMM Mods list:

 

Unassigned

Adal Matar the Lost Stronghold - Fight Against the Thalmor I - Adal Matar Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:13:01 PM 1.1 1.1 MadFrenchie

Alternate Start - Live Another Life - Alternate Start - Live Another Life Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:23:05 PM 2.3.2 2.3.2 Arthmoor

Amazing Follower Tweaks - AmazingFollowerTweaks_1_66 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:55:13 PM 1.66 1.66 Dheuster

ApachiiSkyHair - ApachiiSkyHair_v_1_5_Full Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:34:50 PM 1.5.Full 1.5.Full Apachii

Bandolier - Bags and Pouches - Bandolier - Bags and Pouches v1dot2 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:18:06 PM 1.2 1.2 Dragten

Better Sorting Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:50:30 PM 2.06 2.06 Headbomb

Better Sorting - Compatibility Patches - Main File Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:59:37 PM 0.0.1 0.0.1 Desyphix

Cavern Isles Sanctuary - Cavern Isles Sanctuary Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:10:48 PM 4.5 4.5 DarkFrost5 Georgiegril

Complete Crafting Overhaul Unassigned 9/4/2013 5:27:08 PM 1.12 0.43 Headbomb

Convenient Horses - Convenient Horses v4_8 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:14:08 PM 4.8 4.8 Alek

Dragon Souls to Perk Points - soulsToPerks_v1-6 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:24:13 PM 1.6 1.6 NullCascade

Enhanced Lights and FX Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:37:26 PM 0.3.2 0.3.2 anamorfus

Exciting Skill Ranks - Exciting Skill Ranks v2_1 Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:22:26 PM 2.1 2.1 Jules

Extensible Follower Framework - Extensible Follower Framework v3-5-6 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:19:39 PM 3.5.6 3.5.6 Expired

Gold Coin Smithing and Smelting - Gold Coin Smithing and Smelting Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:51:54 PM 2.0 2.0 chasewj1

Guard Dialogue Overhaul - Guard Dialogue Overhaul Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:42:26 PM 1.301 1.301 Eckss

Harvest Overhaul Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:47:32 PM 2.7.1 2.7.1 Omeletter

Helgen Reborn - Helgen Reborn V104_1 Full Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:09:53 PM 104.1 104.1 Mike Hancho aka Balok

Improved Blacksmithing - Improved Blacksmithing zip File Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:23:21 PM 1.2.6 1.2.6 Kharenis

Increased Bounty Rewards - Increased Bounty Rewards - Normal Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:24:52 PM 1.0 1.0 gorey666

-JK- Crafting Breakdown -Junk Melting Smelting- - -JK- Crafting Breakdown Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:53:24 PM 1.4 1.4 JediaKyrol

Long Lost Smelters of Skyrim - Long Lost Smelters of Skyrim Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:45:16 PM 1.9 1.9 Hyralux

Milans Dungeon Pack 1 - Final Release - Milans Dungeon Pack 1 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:22:15 PM 1.2 1.2 milanosie

Mining More AND Faster - 2x more ore with 2 thirds the amount of swings Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:28:27 PM 2.0 2.0 FireHawkX

More Firewood per Chop - More Firewood per Chop Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:29:24 PM 2.0 2.0 The Great and Powerful BaconCat

Mouth of the World - Mouth of the World Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:20:18 PM 1.0 1.0 Wylda

Paarthurnax Choices plus3 - CKarchive Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:19:29 PM 8 8 a200500

Perks Unbound - With DLC Support - Perks Unbound Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:25:43 PM 1.2.4 1.2.4 Iriodus

Riverside Lodge with Sauna - Riverside Lodge v133 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:09:21 PM 1.3.3 1.3.3 Lupus

RQ - Tanning and Smelting Experience - Tanning and Smelting Experience Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:26:25 PM 1.0 1.0 AnkhAscendant

Run For Your Lives - Run For Your Lives Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:30:05 PM 1.2.2 1.2.2 Arthmoor

Smithing Extended - Breakdown Reforge - SMITHING EXTENDED - BREAKDOWN REFORGE Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:27:15 PM 1.2 1.2 brizzel987

SOUTH DRAGON BRIDGE - Fight Against the Thalmor IV - SOUTH DRAGON BRIDGE - Fight Against the Thalmor IV Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:16:13 PM 1.1 1.1 MadFrenchie

Specialized Followers - SpecializedFollowers1012 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:20:53 PM 1.01.2 1.01.2 Kevin Kidder

The Aldmeri Domain - Fight Against the Thalmor III - The Aldmeri Domain Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:15:09 PM 1.1 1.1 MadFrenchie

The Cyrodiil Frontier - Fight Against the Thalmor II - The Frontier to Cyrodiil Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:13:57 PM 1.1 1.1 MadFrenchie

Training costs - Training costs Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:21:44 PM 0.1 0.1 moonballz

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch - Unofficial Dawnguard Patch Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:03:38 PM 1.2.4 1.2.4 Unofficial Patch Project Team

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch - Unofficial Dragonborn Patch Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:04:38 PM 1.0.5 1.0.5 Unofficial Patch Project Team

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch - Unofficial Hearthfire Patch Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:04:15 PM 1.1.2 1.1.2 Unofficial Patch Project Team

Unofficial High Resolution Patch - Unofficial High Resolution Patch Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:06:41 PM 1.1.2 1.1.2 Unofficial Patch Project Team

Unofficial Skyrim Patch - Unofficial Skyrim Patch Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:03:07 PM 1.3.3c 1.3.3c Unofficial Patch Project Team

Wearable Lanterns - Wearable Lanterns 2_2a Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:44:02 PM 2.2a 2.2a Chesko

When Vampires Attack - When Vampires Attack Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:31:01 PM 1.0.3 1.0.3 Arthmoor

Wyrmstooth - Wyrmstooth Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:12:20 PM 1.9 1.9 Jonx0r

 

 

 

I seem to have been here before, but I can't find the solution to this problem in the My Content history.

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Usually when the game crashes like that, you're missing an esm somewhere. Check the mod dependencies. I use the TES Mod Manager, which has a feature that will make the name of any mods you're missing a dependency for display as red. That may make finding which is the culprit easier.

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@vlaka -- Here's the load order:

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

SPIKE.esm

XFLMain.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

JK Crafting Breakdown.esp

Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp

Perks Unbound.esp

Perks Unbound - Dawnguard.esp

Perks Unbound - Dragonborn.esp

smithingExtended.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp

HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp

HarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp

HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp

SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp

AdalMatar.esp

DragonmournInn.esp

Milan's PAck.esp

MouthoftheWorld.esp

RiversideLodge.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

TheDomain.esp

TheFrontier.esp

Wyrmstooth.esp

AddChoices01.esp

Better Blacksmithing.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Weightless).esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Weightless).esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

TanningSmeltingExp.esp

Helgen Reborn.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ELFX - Exteriors.esp

ELFXEnhancer.esp

HarvestOverhaulCreatures_IMCN_Compatibility_Patch.esp

dovahkiin_levitate_spell.esp

JulesRankPerks.esp

training_costs_1_x1_x1.esp

training_costs_20_x2_x3.esp

training_costs_10_x2_x3.esp

training_costs_20_x1_x1.esp

training_costs_5_x2_x3.esp

training_costs_10_x1_x1.esp

training_costs_5_x1_x1.esp

XFLDialogue.esp

XFLPlugins.esp

specializedfollowers.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

CISanctuaryCleaned4_5.esp

Gold Coin Crafting.esp

DBSP - Hearthfire.esp

 

 

 

@pmzq -- Where do I find/how do I generate a TES Mod Manager report? I've got NMM, BOSS, BOSS Userlist Manager, TES5Edit, and Wrye Bash all installed (even if I don't understand much of what they do).

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TES mod manager is a separate program, and it doesn't look like you have it installed by the looks of your list. To my knowledge, it's not the same as the Nexus Mod Manager. If you do decide to install it, open it up and look at the list of mods. If any are red, you're missing a dependency. The Creation Kit can do something similar. It lists "Parent Masters" when a mod is highlighted when selecting which to load, although you'll have to go down the list one by one, but it will list any you're missing as UNKNOWN.

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Since you have Wrye Bash installed, it is also color coded to indicate if you have any missing masters as well as a host of other information. Might want to check it out.

 

NMM will also display the masters of any highlighted plugin. This takes some time as you have to manually scan your list to ensure the master are there and in the correct order.

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Since you have Wrye Bash installed, it is also color coded to indicate if you have any missing masters as well as a host of other information. Might want to check it out.

THANK YOU! Ran Wrye Bash and saw that there was only ONE red checkmark. (Honestly, I was expecting to see a LOT more than just one.) It was the Harvest Overhaul calling for attachments to mods that weren't there. My bad; I added them in the installation checklist thinking that I would be adding those _eventually_.

 

Thanks again to all of you. You collectively make this learning process doable. Left to my own devices, I would have thrown in the towel a long time ago.

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