CaptainPatch Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) Like a junkie needing a tech advice fix.... The wife finally surrendered to the inevitable and decided to start from scratch. (Mainly because she can't get past a Diplomatic Immunity glitch to finish the Alduin quest line.) So Uninstalled EVERYTHING and started the tedious process of reinstalling EVERYTHING. This time around, I kept the mods down to those that are in my mix and working OK (more or less). Even BOSS is working fine: BOSS Version 2.1.1 Summary SKSE Plugins Recognised Plugins Unrecognised Plugins Log Feature Support Display Settings Filters These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action. Skyrim.esm Active Update.esm Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Dawnguard.esm Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} HearthFires.esm Active Dragonborn.esm Active ApachiiHair.esm Active SPIKE.esm Active XFLMain.esm Active Note: For safe mod uninstall see special uninstallation instructions on mod page. Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}} Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active JK Crafting Breakdown.esp Active Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp Active Perks Unbound.esp Active Perks Unbound - Dawnguard.esp Active Perks Unbound - Dragonborn.esp Active smithingExtended.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Convenient Horses.esp Active Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function. Dr_Bandolier.esp Active Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp Active Note: Will conflict with mods that modify existing recipes. HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp Active HarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp Active HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp Active SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp Active AdalMatar.esp Active Note: V1.1+: This file contains 3 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically, and which are reported by the mod author to be harmless artifacts from Creation Kit export. DragonmournInn.esp Active Warning: This file contains 4 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here. Milan's PAck.esp Active MouthoftheWorld.esp Active RiversideLodge.esp Active Run For Your Lives.esp Active When Vampires Attack.esp Active TheDomain.esp Active Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here. TheFrontier.esp Active Wyrmstooth.esp Active AddChoices01.esp Active Better Blacksmithing.esp Active Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp Active Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch) Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Active Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch) Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Weightless).esp Active Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch) Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp Active Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch) Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp Active Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch) Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Weightless).esp Active Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch) Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp Active Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch) Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp Active Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch) Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active TanningSmeltingExp.esp Active Helgen Reborn.esp Active EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Active ELFX - Exteriors.esp Active ELFXEnhancer.esp Active HarvestOverhaulCreatures_IMCN_Compatibility_Patch.esp Active dovahkiin_levitate_spell.esp Active JulesRankPerks.esp Active training_costs_1_x1_x1.esp Active training_costs_20_x2_x3.esp Active training_costs_10_x2_x3.esp Active training_costs_20_x1_x1.esp Active training_costs_5_x2_x3.esp Active training_costs_10_x1_x1.esp Active training_costs_5_x1_x1.esp Active XFLDialogue.esp Active XFLPlugins.esp Active specializedfollowers.esp Active AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Active Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active The current problem is that the game simply will NOT start: Splash screen, "boom, boom-boom" audio, then CTD. Never even make it to Main Menu. The CTD occurs whether I use the Steam shortcut or the SKSE_loader.exe shortcut. (But the Steam shortcut at least opens up the Steam Skyrim panel (the one with Data files). Here's the NMM Mods list: Unassigned Adal Matar the Lost Stronghold - Fight Against the Thalmor I - Adal Matar Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:13:01 PM 1.1 1.1 MadFrenchie Alternate Start - Live Another Life - Alternate Start - Live Another Life Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:23:05 PM 2.3.2 2.3.2 Arthmoor Amazing Follower Tweaks - AmazingFollowerTweaks_1_66 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:55:13 PM 1.66 1.66 Dheuster ApachiiSkyHair - ApachiiSkyHair_v_1_5_Full Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:34:50 PM 1.5.Full 1.5.Full Apachii Bandolier - Bags and Pouches - Bandolier - Bags and Pouches v1dot2 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:18:06 PM 1.2 1.2 Dragten Better Sorting Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:50:30 PM 2.06 2.06 Headbomb Better Sorting - Compatibility Patches - Main File Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:59:37 PM 0.0.1 0.0.1 Desyphix Cavern Isles Sanctuary - Cavern Isles Sanctuary Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:10:48 PM 4.5 4.5 DarkFrost5 Georgiegril Complete Crafting Overhaul Unassigned 9/4/2013 5:27:08 PM 1.12 0.43 Headbomb Convenient Horses - Convenient Horses v4_8 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:14:08 PM 4.8 4.8 Alek Dragon Souls to Perk Points - soulsToPerks_v1-6 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:24:13 PM 1.6 1.6 NullCascade Enhanced Lights and FX Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:37:26 PM 0.3.2 0.3.2 anamorfus Exciting Skill Ranks - Exciting Skill Ranks v2_1 Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:22:26 PM 2.1 2.1 Jules Extensible Follower Framework - Extensible Follower Framework v3-5-6 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:19:39 PM 3.5.6 3.5.6 Expired Gold Coin Smithing and Smelting - Gold Coin Smithing and Smelting Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:51:54 PM 2.0 2.0 chasewj1 Guard Dialogue Overhaul - Guard Dialogue Overhaul Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:42:26 PM 1.301 1.301 Eckss Harvest Overhaul Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:47:32 PM 2.7.1 2.7.1 Omeletter Helgen Reborn - Helgen Reborn V104_1 Full Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:09:53 PM 104.1 104.1 Mike Hancho aka Balok Improved Blacksmithing - Improved Blacksmithing zip File Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:23:21 PM 1.2.6 1.2.6 Kharenis Increased Bounty Rewards - Increased Bounty Rewards - Normal Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:24:52 PM 1.0 1.0 gorey666 -JK- Crafting Breakdown -Junk Melting Smelting- - -JK- Crafting Breakdown Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:53:24 PM 1.4 1.4 JediaKyrol Long Lost Smelters of Skyrim - Long Lost Smelters of Skyrim Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:45:16 PM 1.9 1.9 Hyralux Milans Dungeon Pack 1 - Final Release - Milans Dungeon Pack 1 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:22:15 PM 1.2 1.2 milanosie Mining More AND Faster - 2x more ore with 2 thirds the amount of swings Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:28:27 PM 2.0 2.0 FireHawkX More Firewood per Chop - More Firewood per Chop Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:29:24 PM 2.0 2.0 The Great and Powerful BaconCat Mouth of the World - Mouth of the World Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:20:18 PM 1.0 1.0 Wylda Paarthurnax Choices plus3 - CKarchive Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:19:29 PM 8 8 a200500 Perks Unbound - With DLC Support - Perks Unbound Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:25:43 PM 1.2.4 1.2.4 Iriodus Riverside Lodge with Sauna - Riverside Lodge v133 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:09:21 PM 1.3.3 1.3.3 Lupus RQ - Tanning and Smelting Experience - Tanning and Smelting Experience Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:26:25 PM 1.0 1.0 AnkhAscendant Run For Your Lives - Run For Your Lives Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:30:05 PM 1.2.2 1.2.2 Arthmoor Smithing Extended - Breakdown Reforge - SMITHING EXTENDED - BREAKDOWN REFORGE Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:27:15 PM 1.2 1.2 brizzel987 SOUTH DRAGON BRIDGE - Fight Against the Thalmor IV - SOUTH DRAGON BRIDGE - Fight Against the Thalmor IV Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:16:13 PM 1.1 1.1 MadFrenchie Specialized Followers - SpecializedFollowers1012 Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:20:53 PM 1.01.2 1.01.2 Kevin Kidder The Aldmeri Domain - Fight Against the Thalmor III - The Aldmeri Domain Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:15:09 PM 1.1 1.1 MadFrenchie The Cyrodiil Frontier - Fight Against the Thalmor II - The Frontier to Cyrodiil Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:13:57 PM 1.1 1.1 MadFrenchie Training costs - Training costs Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:21:44 PM 0.1 0.1 moonballz Unofficial Dawnguard Patch - Unofficial Dawnguard Patch Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:03:38 PM 1.2.4 1.2.4 Unofficial Patch Project Team Unofficial Dragonborn Patch - Unofficial Dragonborn Patch Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:04:38 PM 1.0.5 1.0.5 Unofficial Patch Project Team Unofficial Hearthfire Patch - Unofficial Hearthfire Patch Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:04:15 PM 1.1.2 1.1.2 Unofficial Patch Project Team Unofficial High Resolution Patch - Unofficial High Resolution Patch Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:06:41 PM 1.1.2 1.1.2 Unofficial Patch Project Team Unofficial Skyrim Patch - Unofficial Skyrim Patch Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:03:07 PM 1.3.3c 1.3.3c Unofficial Patch Project Team Wearable Lanterns - Wearable Lanterns 2_2a Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:44:02 PM 2.2a 2.2a Chesko When Vampires Attack - When Vampires Attack Unassigned 9/4/2013 3:31:01 PM 1.0.3 1.0.3 Arthmoor Wyrmstooth - Wyrmstooth Unassigned 9/4/2013 4:12:20 PM 1.9 1.9 Jonx0r I seem to have been here before, but I can't find the solution to this problem in the My Content history. 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pmzq Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Usually when the game crashes like that, you're missing an esm somewhere. Check the mod dependencies. I use the TES Mod Manager, which has a feature that will make the name of any mods you're missing a dependency for display as red. That may make finding which is the culprit easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaka Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) mind posting your load order?can find the loadorder.txt at users\<user name>\appdata\local\skyrim :D Edited September 5, 2013 by vlaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPatch Posted September 5, 2013 Author Share Posted September 5, 2013 @vlaka -- Here's the load order: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ApachiiHair.esm SPIKE.esm XFLMain.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp JK Crafting Breakdown.esp Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp Perks Unbound.esp Perks Unbound - Dawnguard.esp Perks Unbound - Dragonborn.esp smithingExtended.esp Convenient Horses.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp HarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp AdalMatar.esp DragonmournInn.esp Milan's PAck.esp MouthoftheWorld.esp RiversideLodge.esp Run For Your Lives.esp When Vampires Attack.esp TheDomain.esp TheFrontier.esp Wyrmstooth.esp AddChoices01.esp Better Blacksmithing.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Weightless).esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Weightless).esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp TanningSmeltingExp.esp Helgen Reborn.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp HarvestOverhaulCreatures_IMCN_Compatibility_Patch.esp dovahkiin_levitate_spell.esp JulesRankPerks.esp training_costs_1_x1_x1.esp training_costs_20_x2_x3.esp training_costs_10_x2_x3.esp training_costs_20_x1_x1.esp training_costs_5_x2_x3.esp training_costs_10_x1_x1.esp training_costs_5_x1_x1.esp XFLDialogue.esp XFLPlugins.esp specializedfollowers.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp CISanctuaryCleaned4_5.esp Gold Coin Crafting.esp DBSP - Hearthfire.esp @pmzq -- Where do I find/how do I generate a TES Mod Manager report? I've got NMM, BOSS, BOSS Userlist Manager, TES5Edit, and Wrye Bash all installed (even if I don't understand much of what they do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmzq Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 TES mod manager is a separate program, and it doesn't look like you have it installed by the looks of your list. To my knowledge, it's not the same as the Nexus Mod Manager. If you do decide to install it, open it up and look at the list of mods. If any are red, you're missing a dependency. The Creation Kit can do something similar. It lists "Parent Masters" when a mod is highlighted when selecting which to load, although you'll have to go down the list one by one, but it will list any you're missing as UNKNOWN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsharaMeradin Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Since you have Wrye Bash installed, it is also color coded to indicate if you have any missing masters as well as a host of other information. Might want to check it out. NMM will also display the masters of any highlighted plugin. This takes some time as you have to manually scan your list to ensure the master are there and in the correct order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPatch Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Since you have Wrye Bash installed, it is also color coded to indicate if you have any missing masters as well as a host of other information. Might want to check it out. THANK YOU! Ran Wrye Bash and saw that there was only ONE red checkmark. (Honestly, I was expecting to see a LOT more than just one.) It was the Harvest Overhaul calling for attachments to mods that weren't there. My bad; I added them in the installation checklist thinking that I would be adding those _eventually_. Thanks again to all of you. You collectively make this learning process doable. Left to my own devices, I would have thrown in the towel a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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