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So... I doubt this is even something that can be fixed but this is my hail Mary pass. I've put together a LO that's horribly broken and I don't know how to fix it. Visually, it looks great and I'm not getting any CTDs... however, there are more glitches than I can shake a (figurative) stick at. First... it keeps shifting me from 1st person to 3rd person randomly. Second, I can't sleep. I have Go To Bed installed but as soon as I try to access the sleep menu, it gets me out of bed. Third... Serana won't follow me. I freed her from Dimhollow but she just stand there. I haven't even tried any console commands to fix Serana because the game is just systemically broken so there's really no point. Okay so... only 3 glitches really but they're biggies.

 

I tested like mad putting this together... but never tested any of these things. I am running over 500 mods including one LE mod (I did the CAO, CK thing to make it SE compatible) and a couple of the 'naughty site' mods so I could get rid of the drunken revellers. Because I hate the drunken revellers. After months of trying to learn SSEEdit... I'm still clueless about conflict resolution. If anyone has any ideas as to where I can even start to sort through this mess, I'd appreciate the hell out of it. It took me close to 100 hrs to put this together... and it actually stressed me out more than any game should so I'm not ready to tear it down but it's totally unplayable at this point.

 

Someone should open a service to remotely fix peoples LOs... I'll bet they could make some good $$$!

 

(I should probably include my mod list...)

 

 

 

Her's my mod list...

 

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*Landscape and Water Fixes.esp

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*Alpine Forest of Whiterun Valley.esp

*Cathedral - 3D Mountain Flowers.esp

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*BetterDynamicAsh-DisableRefs.esm

*Resources - The Great Cities.esp

*ClefJ's Winterhold.esp

*ClefJ's Morthal.esp

*RaceCompatibility.esm

*MajesticMountains_Moss.esp

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*Butterflies.esp

*SkyUI_SE.esp

*Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp

*Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

*SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

*Ducks and Swans.esp

*Better Dynamic Snow.esp

*SRO.esp

*Skyrim_Realistic_Overhaul_Part_10.esp

*Skyrim_Realistic_Overhaul_Part_11.esp

*SGEyebrows.esp

*NVICO - Bandits.esp

*NVICO - Townies.esp

*BBs Lasses of Skyrim V1.1.esp

*Shadows.esp

*OStim.esp

*SexLab_Solutions.esp

*The Flora of Skyrim Trees SSE.esp

*DenseNordicForests.esp

*DepthsOfSkyrim.esp

*Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp

*Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp

*Folkvangr - Grass and Landscape Overhaul.esp

*MagicalBlackreach.esp

*The Great City of Rorikstead.esp

*JC13_TGC Rorikstead.esp

*Helgen.esp

*Mrf solitude.esp

*Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp

*JK's Understone Keep.esp

*Thickets_to_KG_Marsh_Plants.esp

*The Great City of Falkreath.esp

*Gothic Breezehome.esp

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*PA44_FalkreathRiverwood_NPC.esp

*PA44_MiscMale_NPC.esp

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*PA44_ThievesGuild_NPC.esp

*PA44_Winterhold_NPC.esp

*The Great Village of Kynesgrove.esp

*The Great Village of Old Hroldan.esp

*JK's High Hrothgar.esp

*The Great City of Dawnstar.esp

*The Great Village of Mixwater Mill.esp

*Book Covers Skyrim Updated.esp

*Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp

Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp

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*FarmCo.esp

*HearthfireMultiKid.esp

*Righteous Riften-B.esp

*Embers XD.esp

*RedguardShip.esp

*Thickets_to_KG_Marsh_Plants_USSEP_LaWF_Patch.esp

*Sea of Spirits.esp

*Sex Scene Framework.esp

*SeagullsofSkyrim.esp

*Romantic Riverwood.esp

*GuardsArmorsAndWeapons.esp

*Morgaine Custom voiced follower.esp

*ClefJ's Dragon Bridge.esp

*BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp

*Rockin' Raven Rock-B.esp

*Morning Fogs SSE.esp

*Sepolcri.esp

*JK's The Bannered Mare.esp

*DT_WinterberryChateau.esp

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*CitizensComplete.esp

*Carriage Drivers Are Alive.esp

*PA44_Reach_NPC.esp

*PA44_Riften_NPC.esp

*PA44_Solitude_NPC.esp

*PA44_Whiterun_NPC.esp

*PA44_Windhelm_NPC.esp

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*KS Hairdo's.esp

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*NPC Appearances Merged0.esp

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*Quirk Eyes.esp

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*Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs - HHairstyles.esp

*FGAnimationSelector.esp

*AutoOnehandedCrossbow.esp

*Serana Dialogue Edit.esp

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*ButterfliesUnchained.esp

*Customizable Camera.esp

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*Dragon Lilly.esp

*EVGConditionalIdles.esp

*EasiestThaneRequirements.esp

*12FemaleBrows.esp

*FlowerGirls-Irresistible.esp

*Gotobed.esp

*Brows.esp

*KSHairdosSMP.esp

*KaliliesBrows.esp

*Kazeshini.esp

*Lovely Hair Flowers ESL.esp

*[Rektas] Nocturnal Disciple [sE].esp

*ONights.esp

*OEagerFollowers.esp

*OneWithNature.esp

*SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

*SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

*SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

*Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

*SimpleOutfitManager.esp

*Sleeping Expanded.esp

*Toggle Compass.esp

*BHUNP3BBB.esp

*RaceMenuMorphsBHUNP.esp

*[Christine] Floral Night Dress.esp

*[NINI] Chat Noir [sE].esp

*DrunkenSluts.esp

*MajesticMountains.esp

*SummerSolstheim.esp

*BDS - MM Patch.esp

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*JKs Understone Keep - Embers XD Patch.esp

*Great Village of Kynesgrove - Embers XD [XD ESP] Patch.esp

*ISC - Guards Overhaul - New Weapons and Armour SE Patch.esp

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*Flower Girls NPC Relationships.esp

*OthersDaughter.esp

*whiterunMarket.esp

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*FlyingCrowsSSE.esp

*LWFixesCathFlowerspatch.esp

*LakeviewCellarFullyUpgraded.esp

*JK's The Ragged Flagon.esp

*MoonstoneCastle.esp

*HF_Lakeview_AvantGarden_EX.esp

*Dlizzio's Mesh Fixes.esp

*waterplants_lily.esp

*SofiaFollower.esp

*SofiaTypoPatch.esp

*Sofia Follower High Poly Heads-UNP.esp

*SofiaFollower - Use Custom Skin.esp

*RU_CityTreesSE.esp

*Markarth Side - Resort City.esp

*ShareTheLoad.esp

*Mrf -Shadows patch.esp

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*JKs Ragged Flagon - WS Patch.esp

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*BoP - SoS - The Great Village of Kynesgrove Patch.esp

*Great Village of Kynesgrove - Landscape and Water Fixes Patch.esp

*RU_CityTreesSE_Addon0.esp

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*Clefj's Morthal efps patch.esp

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*RBB - GCoD Patch.esp

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*HLIORemi.esp

*Sex Scene Framework - Flower Girls.esp

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*ClefJ Winterhold - LOS2.esp

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*Great Village of Old Hroldan - USSEP Patch.esp

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*Great Village of Kynesgrove - LoS II Patch.esp

*Great Village of Mixwater Mill - LoS II Patch.esp

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*AzuraFXEnbLightX3.esp

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*Praedy's SoulGems ISC Patch.esp

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*NewDogsReplacers.esp

*RaceMenuHH.esp

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*High Poly NPC Overhaul - Resources.esp

*High Poly NPC Overhaul - Resources - KS Hairdos HDT SMP Physics Patch.esp

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*Guard Overhaul - Equality Patch.esp

*High Poly Head Vampire Fix.esp

*MorgaineReplacer.esp

*HumanizedBeastRaces.esp

*HumanizedBeastRaces_CitizensOfTamriel_Patch.esp

*man_dibella.esp

*HeljarchenCellarFullyUpgraded.esp

*Dibellan Baths.esp

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*Markarth Side - windows.esp

*SoulCairnShack.esp

*AUTOMATON_GLOW.esp

*RM - Male Cleric SoS.esp

*JKs Ragged Flagon - USSEP Patch.esp

*JKs Ragged Flagon - Embers XD - WS Patch.esp

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*Cathedral Weathers.esp

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*WetandCold.esp

*Embers XD - Fire Magick Add-On.esp

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*Embers XD - Patch - ClefJ's Morthal.esp

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*Smoking Torches And Candles.esp

*DeadShrubReplacer.esp

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*Gothic Breezehome (Support Patch).esp

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*Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs - Dint999.esp

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NPC Appearances Merged.esp

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*FWMF for Paper Map by Mirhayasu Vivid and Azurite Weathers fix.esp

*DynDOLOD.esp

*Occlusion.esp

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for me, can't sleep issues are either

a) buff related

b) glitch related

 

for the first, check your buffs to see if you have a disease. Some diseases have weird effects on actions and we don't always notice we have them. I've had them block me from fast travel, using spells, even running. Not sure if any ever prevented me from sleeping, but can't hurt to check.

 

for the second, for some reason, in certain situations, tai gets turned OFF for the player but is never reset to ON at the end of the event. (for instance, an animation sequence that as a normal setup thing turns off your player ai for the duration, but which is then interrupted by an unexpected enemy attack - ex: troll strike, or a bandit's arrow...reset can fail sometimes, sometimes leaving you unable to properly use the camera, sometimes leaving you walking in place, sometimes leaving you unable to interact with objects, etc), console player.tai will tell you if this is the case and fix it too (if tai is the cause). if it responds with "player AI is on" or something like that, you've fixed the issue, if it says "player AI is off" or something like that. then run the command once more to turn it back on, and look for the next candidate issue.

 

Oh....and I think certain NSFW mods can cause the player to be unable to sleep due to high arousal state. (but don't quote me on that)

 

followers...idk.

 

your 1st/3rd person shifting could just be a bum wheel on a mouse (hardware issue, don't count em out!),. If it's a mod, idk....I'd check your camera mod or maybe that last one "occlusion" (which sounds like it's fiddling with views)

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Thanks for the tips... I think I've got it figured out though. At least I hope I do. The sleeping was entirely an oversight by me. Apparently there was a change to the mod and you now have to access the 'wait' screen to sleep. The camera and another problem I was having with NPCs re-equipping clothing and armour seem to have fixed themselves once I removed Key Item Distributor. Not saying it's the fault of that mod... more than likely it was how I was using it (I only had it installed as another mod needed it). As for the Serana glitch... I'll have to go another hour or so into the game to see if that's sorted. If not... I'll likely be back on here hoping another kind soul can help me out.

 

edit: Serana still pooched. Maybe it's time for me to go and get a job...

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