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PROBLEM SOLVED, Go to the bottom and view my last reply (or just search for: Update 4 - success)

 

Hallo everyone,

 

I have just installed Fallout 3 GOTY from steam and wanted to install Wanderers Edition.

 

SO, all the lovely facts first:

 

PC Spec:

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

Motherboard: Gigabyte P67A-UD4-B3

CPU: Intel i7-2600k, 3.4GHz

RAM: 20gb DDR3

GFX: Geforce GTX 660

 

How I mod FO3

  • I use Fallout Mod Manager (0.13.21)
  • I installed everything using Package manager
  • I have enabled Archive Invalidation

So what exactly happens Mr. Sp34k?

Well you see, I choose the alternative start but after about 15-20 seconds my game simply freezes.
So how do you start the game?
I have FOSE (Fallout script extender) installed in the root dir. of Fallout 3. But I usually just use "FOSE" from the Mod manager.
Have you done any research, Mr.?
Yes I have. One of the "solutions" I would were to make some changes in the fallout.ini (documents -> My games -> Fallout3), I currently have:
iNumHWThreads=1
bUseThreadedAI=1

Fallout 3 Mods Load:

  1. Fallout3.esm
  2. Anchorage.esm
  3. ThePitt.esm
  4. BrokenSteel.esm
  5. PointLookout.esm
  6. Zeta.esm
  7. CRAFT.esm
  8. CALIBR.esm
  9. Project Beauty.esm
  10. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
  11. Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
  12. EVE.esm
  13. DarNifiedUIF3.esp
  14. Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
  15. Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
  16. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
  17. FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
  18. FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
  19. FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
  20. FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
  21. FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
  22. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
  23. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
  24. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp
  25. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp
  26. WeaponModKits.esp
  27. WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
  28. WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
  29. WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
  30. WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
  31. WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
  32. WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
  33. EVE.esp
  34. EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
  35. EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
  36. EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
  37. EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
  38. EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
  39. Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
  40. Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
  41. Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
  42. Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
  43. Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
  44. Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
  45. Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
  46. Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
  47. Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp
  48. Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

 

I hope you guys can help :smile: If I need to add extra details, please let me know.
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Do you have the game installed outside of Program Files? Did you do the change to the Fallout.ini to limit your CPU to two cores? Did you follow the instructions for the proper installation of Fallout 3?

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1465357-installing-fallout-3-with-windows-78-and-xp/

Have you made the game "Large Address Aware"? http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/6510/

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Do you have the game installed outside of Program Files? Did you do the change to the Fallout.ini to limit your CPU to two cores? Did you follow the instructions for the proper installation of Fallout 3?

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1465357-installing-fallout-3-with-windows-78-and-xp/

Have you made the game "Large Address Aware"? http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/6510/

 

Cheers M48A5,

 

I have installed Fallout 3 In it's default directory. But I disabled UAC checks using FOMM (settings -> Options -> Disable UAC checks).

And yes I have just installed the Large Address Aware which did not seem to work. I can run around in the shack for about a few seconds untill it freezes.

 

Am I required to create a new game everytime I make changes, or can I simply continue? I haven't progressed out of the starting shack/house.

 

Also, I have disabled:

Marts Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders, Natural selection and Master Menu Module as they are already included in the Wanderer Edition (I read this online), enabling these 3 makes the game freeze instantly.

 

During my research, I wasn't able to find any informations about crash reports.

 

 

EDIT:

Im doing a complete reinstall of FO3 and everything else. An update and progress will be posted.

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"Am I required to create a new game everytime I make changes, or can I simply continue? I haven't progressed out of the starting shack/house."

 

Yes and no. Sometimes. Maybe. It depends on the changes that were made or the mod added. When adding mods, you need to read the description, read me or the posted mod comments.

They will usually tell you whether or not you need to start a new game. Other changes, usually not. I have made a lot of changes to my game without starting a new game.

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UPDATE 2:

If I activate everything BESIDE all WeaponModKits + Eve - FEW with WeaponModKit , then Fallout 3 loads fine but the menu is gone + it doesn't register any keybuttons.

UPDATE 1:

If I deactive everything besides WeaponModKits and EVE related mods - then FO3 works fine



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I removed EVERYTHING related to Fallout 3, even in the document folder.
So, I installed things in this order:

1. Fallout 3
2. Wanderers Edition + Hotfix
3. FOIP:
3a. EVE and FWE
3b. Marts Mutant Mod and FWE
3c. Project Beauty and FWE
3d. Weapons Mod Kits and FWE
4. Extracted Fose to the fallout 3 main directory
5. Darnified UI + hotfix
6. 3GB Enabler
7. Fallout Project Beauty / Redesigned HD version
8. Marts Mutant Mod + Update 6.2
9. Eve

ALL MODS INSTALLED VIA FOMM - DISABLING ALL MODS LOADS UP FO3 FINE

I made my load order according to the Wanderers Edition suggestion, although I have some files which they do not - and vise versa:

  • Fallout3.esm
  • Anchorage.esm
  • ThePitt.esm
  • BrokenSteel.esm
  • PointLookout.esm
  • Zeta.esm
  • CRAFT.esm
  • CALIBR.esm
  • Project Beauty.esm
  • FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
  • Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
  • EVE.esm
  • DarNifiedUIF3.esp
  • Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
  • Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
  • FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
  • FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
  • FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
  • FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
  • FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
  • FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
  • FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
  • FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
  • FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp
  • FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp
  • WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
  • WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
  • WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
  • WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
  • WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
  • WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
  • EVE.esp
  • EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
  • EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
  • EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
  • EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
  • EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
  • Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
  • Total active plugins: 51
  • Total plugins: 51

Problem now is that Fallout 3 doesn't even open. It just crashed straight away when I open via FOSE.
oads fine.

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Fallout3.esm should be #1, not #2. For installing FWE, read these instructions and install in the order as instructed: https://sites.google.com/site/fo3wanderersedition/installation

With DarNUI, did you follow the link on the FWE page? You need version Alpha 11. You cannot install the 3GB Enabler or FOSE with FOMM, it is done manually. You also have too many MMM plugins. I don't use MMM, so I don't know which ones you can deactivate and delete.

You should also run the vanilla game until just before you leave the vault exit for the Wasteland, make a hard save, exit the vault and make another save. Then start enabling your mods one at a time and check in the game to make sure everything is working properly.

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Update 4 - success:

The previous issue with the freezing was solved by using this method:

 

 

 

SOLUTION: Find and open (backup first!) the fallout.ini file in "My Documents\My Games\Fallout3"

Find

bUseThreadedAI=0

change it to

bUseThreadedAI=1

Add this line after it

iNumHWThreads=2

 

Source:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2722281

I would also like to thank you M48A5 for using you're time helping me out troubleshooting these issues.

And I hope those with similar issue will find this useful.

 

Is it possible to change the Topic's title to [solved]?

 

Update 3:

I did a total reinstall again, this time I had more success.

 

What I did different this time:

  • I had all the WeaponModits except the WeaponModKits.esp so I downloaded that.
  • I then installed DarnUI Support for FWE 6-02 from FWE's nexus page
  • My menu and cursor disappeared so I installed Unofficial EVE compatibility patch for FOIP

Now I can launch Fallout 3 perfectly and I can start a new game - problem is, the game freezes when I choose my character name.

 

Update 2:

It all seemed to fail - yet again. It is getting rather frustrating.

 

  • Could anyone help me in details:
  • In what order I should install my mods
  • Exactly from which URL/website should I download the mods?
  • And what load order I should follow

 

I have done everything completly as suggested on the FWE page, I literally did everything from the top to the bottom - yet my game still continues to crash.

 

Update 1:

Apparently everything is broken. Disabling ALL mods still doesn't solve the instant crash on startup. I have never encountered so many difficulties installing a mod as FWE.

I will try, yet again - a fresh installment.

 

 

 

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The reason Fallout3.esm is on #1 is due to a mistaken lineshift in the editor.

 

I did use the DarNUI as provided from FWE page. I installed Alpha 11 and the hotfix.

My mistake, 3GB enabler and FOSE was not installed with FOMM, it was done manually.

 

The MMM plugins were included in the file I downloaded when searching for it. Do you use MMM at all? If you do, which one do you have active?

 

Following the order instructions, I noticed that I don't have the following:

1. CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

2. WeaponsModKit.esp

 

But I have these, which is not included in the order:

1. Eve.esm

2. Marts Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn

3. Marts Mutant Mod - Natural Selection

4. Marts Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module

 

A complete load order for me is:

  1. Fallout3.esm
  2. Anchorage.esm
  3. ThePitt.esm
  4. BrokenSteel.esm
  5. PointLookout.esm
  6. Zeta.esm
  7. CRAFT.esm
  8. CALIBR.esm
  9. Project Beauty.esm
  10. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
  11. Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
  12. EVE.esm
  13. DarNifiedUIF3.esp
  14. Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
  15. Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
  16. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
  17. FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
  18. FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
  19. FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
  20. FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
  21. FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
  22. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
  23. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
  24. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp
  25. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp
  26. WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
  27. WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
  28. WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
  29. WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
  30. WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
  31. WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
  32. EVE.esp
  33. EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
  34. EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
  35. EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
  36. EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
  37. EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
  38. Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
  39. Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
  40. Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
  41. Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
  42. Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
  43. Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
  44. Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp
  45. Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
  46. Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp
  47. Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
  48. Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
  49. Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
  50. Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
  51. Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
Total active plugins: 51
Total plugins: 51
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