Abramul Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 What the bible has to say about marriage is completely irrelevant.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Peregrine, you are wrong. How the Bible is interpreted determines how people are brainwashed. What these people 'think' determines how they vote. Note: The above statement was derived by observing effects on myself, except for the 'vote' part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoril Nerevar Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 The fact that our country was built on the foundation of the bible makes it relevent. Have a nice day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 John Adams, you know, one of those founders of the country, would claim otherwise. As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. Concession accepted, have a nice day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoril Nerevar Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 If it is not then why do countless founders and such of this country say thins related to God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 If it is not then why do countless founders and such of this country say thins related to God? Is the concept of a private life too complicated for you to understand? Maybe you aren't capable of keeping your religion in your private life instead of trying to impose it on others, but the founders were. Go look up the source of those quotes. You'll find that most of them are from the founders private lives, not their political positions. And in their political positions, separation of church and state is clear. And in case you have forgotten, many of the founders were deists, not christians. They didn't believe in the same god, and they definitely didn't consider the bible absolute truth to build a country on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoril Nerevar Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Wrong again. The private lives of people influence what they do. In countless speaches(political speeches.) people refer to god as part of this nation or give credit to him for this nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Come back when you can pass a basic history class. And don't even think about mentioning modern politicians. We all know they are willing to ignore the constitution if it benefits their political position. As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. What part of "not in any sense founded on the christian religion" is not clear enough? Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. What part of "shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" is not clear enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoril Nerevar Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 That is just one man's opinion(which is infact[the infact in your opinion is just theory] a theory. And scince fact is theory then your and my existence is a theory.). What part of "..LAW.." don't you understand? When I make a speech it's not for making a law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 That is just one man's opinion(which is infact[the infact in your opinion is just theory] a theory. And scince fact is theory then your and my existence is a theory.). No, it is part of our country's highest law. The constitution is much more than just an opinion. And like it or not, the treaty is law. The senate accepted it with a unanimous vote, and it is now law. What part of "..LAW.." don't you understand? When I make a speech it's not for making a law. Concession accepted. Speeches by individuals are not law. The constitution and treaties are law. We now have perfect agreement, all the laws say that we are not a christian nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoril Nerevar Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 No we are not in perfect agreement. if you declare that that treaty happened where is your proof. After all, in YOUR opinion (not mine) everything is a theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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