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Sorry about the double post, but something I noticed when I re-read your post:

"Saying something adversely effects others does not mean it is immoral and saying something is immoral does not mean it adversely effects others."

I never said that something that adversely effects others is immoral. I said that the adverse effect is generally deemed adverse by a moral standard.

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I don't know how else to explain that legislative laws are largely based off of the "Moral Law" that God sets forth, not the morals of man.

 

EDIT: I just found a great article helping to explain Moral Law. This may help.

http://home.sprynet.com/~eagreen/moral.htm

Aaaww, maaan.

And you were doing so well.

You just had to go there.

I was so proud of you for not crossing that line.

You disappoint me.

Here’s a lesson on “thinking for yourself” and a great rule of thumb for getting through life.

When you have to call on God, it’s a sure sign that you are in a weak position and you should reconsider it.

God is the ultimate trump card and if you HAVE TO play it, it probably means you couldn’t win without it.

Replace the word God with Allah (they are after all one in the same) and see how comfortable that feels.

Congratulations for I think you have ended this debate.

 

To the mods: I cincerely hope that I haven't gone too far and I apologize if I have.

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I don't know how else to explain that legislative laws are largely based off of the "Moral Law" that God sets forth, not the morals of man.

 

EDIT: I just found a great article helping to explain Moral Law. This may help.

http://home.sprynet.com/~eagreen/moral.htm

Aaaww, maaan.

And you were doing so well.

You just had to go there.

I was so proud of you for not crossing that line.

You disappoint me.

Here’s a lesson on “thinking for yourself” and a great rule of thumb for getting through life.

When you have to call on God, it’s a sure sign that you are in a weak position and you should reconsider it.

God is the ultimate trump card and if you HAVE TO play it, it probably means you couldn’t win without it.

Replace the word God with Allah (they are after all one in the same) and see how comfortable that feels.

Congratulations for I think you have ended this debate.

 

To the mods: I cincerely hope that I haven't gone too far and I apologize if I have.

 

You wanted me to sugar-coat everything and not speak the truth that our country was founded by religious men with religious principals?

 

And I believe what ended this debate was the fact that you wanted to start making claims of a person being weak based on their religion.

 

Request for a mod to lock this thread, since this is starting to get into a religious debate.

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I know. I reported my own post so that the moderators will see the request for the thread being locked, as religious debates are forbidden.

 

I do believe the line has been crossed, and as such the thread needs to be locked.

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More like, break the rules and have a consequence?

Feel free to throw more insults my way. I've been banned from other forums and don't feel like having it happen again for making a debate continue when there's a sticky making it known that debates of that type are banned.

If you want to get a strike, or ban, that badly, just ask a moderator for one.

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Moderator Note:

 

Three things that should not be on the forum, political discussions, religious debates and personal relationships.

 

This is dangerously close to causing emotions and beliefs to become inflamed.

 

Rather than handing out warnings, strikes or showing someone the door.

 

I shall close this as a peace gesture.

 

ON TOPIC:

 

I am one to wait and see what happens before I pass judgment, and then I will keep it to myself.

 

Buddah

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