GRA shop in New Vegas

[wfandrews]

I have just started a new game in FNV after not playing for some time because I noticed that the nvse was updated and many of the stabilization mods were also updated. I had hoped that because of this the reason I stopped playing would have gone away. Although the game is running smoother than it ever has for me the reason I quit playing it was still there.

 

Which brings us to the reason for this post and why I stopped playing the game. Simply put I am unable to use the GRA shop in New Vegas because there is a hostile robot inside it. This time it was a Protectron, other times it could be another type of hostile robot. The clerk protectron will not wait on me as long as this hostile robot is in there and there is no way to kill the hostile robot.

 

This time my game was running so well I just said to hell with it and used additem to acquire the weapons and ammo that I would have otherwise purchased from the GRA shop.

 

I posted a question about this when the problem first happened some time ago but nobody seemed to have any idea why it is happening. It is probably mod related but I could not think of any new mods I had added to that play through that could be causing the problem. Starting a new game and gradually adding mods is a no go for me as I would have to travel to New Vegas from Goodsprings each time and I just do not have the patience for doing that who knows how many times.

 

If anyone has any suggestions as to how I could find the cause of this I would be grateful.

[JimboUK]

If you post your load order someone might spot the mod that's causing the issue.

[wfandrews]

Here it is:

0 0 FalloutNV.esm
1 1 DeadMoney.esm
2 2 HonestHearts.esm
3 3 OldWorldBlues.esm
4 4 LonesomeRoad.esm
5 5 GunRunnersArsenal.esm
6 6 ClassicPack.esm
7 7 MercenaryPack.esm
8 8 TribalPack.esm
9 9 CaravanPack.esm
10 a YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm
11 b SomeguySeries.esm
12 c FCOMaster.esm
13 d IWS-Core.esm
14 e AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm
15 f TLD_Travelers.esm
16 10 Momod.esm
17 11 More Perks.esm
18 12 More Perks for Dead Money.esm
19 13 AWOPMonsterPatchVanilla.esm
20 14 AWOPDeadMoney.esm
21 15 JIP Selective-Fire.esm
22 16 Cyberware.esm
23 17 More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm
24 18 More Traits.esm
25 19 HDTshop.esm
26 1a More Perks for Old World Blues.esm
27 1b More Perks for Companions.esm
28 1c WMVM.esm
29 1d YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp
30 1e Unofficial Patch NVSE Plus.esp
31 1f Better Game Performance.esp
32 20 FCO - NPC Changes.esp
33 21 FCO + YUP Patch.esp
34 22 Wellcometohell.esp
35 23 WeaponModsExpanded.esp
36 24 Unique Items & Collectables.esp
37 25 Unique skill Magazines.esp
38 26 Bobblehunt - Fallout 3 Bonuses.esp
39 27 Bobblehunt.esp
40 28 M14.esp
41 29 AK47.esp
42 2a FCO - GlowingOne.esp
43 2b FCO - Race Addon.esp
44 2c PKM.esp
45 2d WelcometohellLR.esp
MoMod-NightSpawn.esp
MoMod-MCMMenu.esp
AWOP-MoMod.esp
46 2e AWOP-Roombounds.esp
47 2f More Perks Update.esp
FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp
48 30 WelcometohellHH.esp
49 31 WMX-DLCMerged.esp
50 32 AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp
51 33 GunRunnersArsenal Integration Mod.esp
52 34 GRA Scavenger Hunt Balanced.esp
53 35 NewVegasBounties.esp
54 36 NewVegasBountiesII.esp
55 37 TheInheritance.esp
56 38 Russell.esp
FCO - Russell.esp
57 39 hunter.esp
58 3a The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
59 3b The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
AWOP-WMX.esp
60 3c WMX-ModernWeapons.esp
61 3d WMX-POPMerged.esp
62 3e Enhanced Item Info.esp
63 3f bobblehintbooks.esp
Less Weight.esp
64 40 HDTshop.esp
IWS-Core-Guards.esp
65 41 IWS-Core-Patrols.esp
IWS-Core-Civilians.esp
IWS-DM.esp
IWS-HH.esp
IWS-OWB.esp
IWS-LR.esp
66 42 MoreLoot.esp
67 43 More Perks for Companions Update.esp
68 44 More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp
69 45 More Traits Update.esp
70 46 More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp
71 47 More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp
72 48 noautoaim.esp
73 49 Level100PerkPerLevel.esp
74 4a Perks for Challenges.esp
75 4b SignatureArmor.esp
76 4c SignatureWeapons.esp
77 4d SnowGlobePerks.esp
BetterWeaponRepairKitRecipe.esp
78 4e Groundcover Overhaul.esp
79 4f SteadyHandsPerk.esp
80 50 ELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.esp
81 51 m110.esp
82 52 Cyberware OWB.esp
AWOP-FCO3.esp
Clarity - Dark Nights.esp
83 53 Mod Loot - 3. A Bit Common.esp
84 54 BoostedSkills.esp
85 55 Tutorial Killer.esp
86 56 Altitude.esp
87 57 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

I also have the regular mod tools, NVTF, etc but I doubt they would affect this.

[JimboUK]

Sorry for the late reply, I can't see anything obvious there. What I would do is put my load order into FNVEdit, expand the FalloutNV.esm entry, then expand "Creatures" and highlight "GunRunnerProtectron" under EditorID. On the right hand panel you will see every mod that makes changes to that Protectron and what changes they make, one of those mods is likely the culprit.

[wfandrews]

Thank you JimboUK I will give that a shot and let you know how it turns out.

 

I appreciate you helping me with this very much.

[wfandrews]

Sorry for the late reply, I can't see anything obvious there. What I would do is put my load order into FNVEdit, expand the FalloutNV.esm entry, then expand "Creatures" and highlight "GunRunnerProtectron" under EditorID. On the right hand panel you will see every mod that makes changes to that Protectron and what changes they make, one of those mods is likely the culprit.

I did as you suggested and found three mods,IWS-Core.esm, MoMod.esm, and Cyberware.esm listed. I tend to think Cyberware is the culprit as the other two I have been playing with for years, long before this bug happened. Cyberware is a recent edition to my mod load.

 

The reason I just think that and cannot say with certainty is that before playing without that mod I went back to the GRA shop just to check and that hostile Protectron was not there. Go figure!

 

What I believe I will do is start a new profile with that mod uninstalled and just play until I get to the GRA shop.

 

I appreciate your help as winnowing the possible culprit down to those three mods made it possible for me to eliminate the one mod. Trying the method of installing a few mods at a time and then playing to the bug was just not a realistic option for me.

[JimboUK]

I've used the other two and I've not had the problem so I would guess it is Cyberware. I'd be a little wary of Increased Wasteland Spawns, it uses the PlaceAtMe function which can cause save bloat, anything placed in game using that command is stored in the player save rather than the game itself.