Famine67 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 This is a strange one. I started with a well modded FNV game. I decided to add some smaller mods and used Optimizer Texture for the first time. At first I was stuck with red !'s as weapons, helmets, projectiles, explosive effects, hair, and also had pink squares as Project Nevada HUD elements (specifically the grenade indicator), and purple arms. I could not access the menu to load or quit the game. Only CTRL ALT DLT would work. I looked to use the backup that Optimizer Texture made. The rar file was probably missing 3/4 of the textures it replaced. Great. After restoring the backup it still did not fix my problem. I proceeded to uninstall and reinstall every mod I had using the NMM in the hopes that this would restore any lost textures that the OT killed. I also ran a steam verify local files and redid archive invalidated and DarnUI's ini changes. At first this appeared to have worked. I could see my weapons, all of PN's HUD elements worked, etc. However it seems that once I move a certain distance (new cell maybe?) the red exclamation points start replacing scenery. Switching weapons will make weapons that were once perfectly fine turn into red marks. Cycling PN's grenade indicators which would work when initially loaded would turn into pink squares, explosives, helmets, everything would turn into red marks.It appears the following have been affected even after being reinstalledADAM armor (reinstalled properly)PN HUD elementsAll weapons lose model and sound, these are WRPElectrocity lights. I loaded a save where I was under them and they load fine. If I load a save and then find lights in a different area they are floating red marks.I am stumped. Can anyone suggest a fix? Here is the load order but I don't think it is the problem. FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm IWR.esm Detect Traps.esm Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm JIP Selective-Fire.esm More Perks.esm More Perks for Dead Money.esm More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm More Perks for Old World Blues.esm More Traits.esm NVInteriors_Core.esm NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm NVR-Strip.esm Project Nevada - Core.esm Project Nevada - Equipment.esm Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm rePopulated Wasteland.esm ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm oHUD.esm New Vegas Redesigned II.esm Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp FINAL Seachlight Airport NCR.esm SomeguySeries.esm Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm Mission Mojave - Ultimate Edition.esp MMUE-CP-Electrocity.esp MMUE-CP-NVInteriors.esp DarNifiedUINV.esp CASM.esp IWR - Rebuilt.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp The Weapon Mod Menu.esp populatedcasino-light.esp NV Interiors - El Ray Motel.esp NV Interiors - West Vegas Fringe.esp NV Interiors - Cottonwood Cove.esp NVR-NPCs.esp NVR-Version_10.esp Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp Project Nevada - All DLC.esp MMUE-CP-PNCore.esp MMUE-CP-PNALLDLC.esp MMUE-CP-PNRebalance.esp MMUE-CP-PNEquipment.esp CONELRAD 640-1240.esp Improved Sound FX.esp Improved Sound FX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp Improved Sound FX - GRA.esp Improved Sound FX - Merged Major DLCs.esp Improved Sound FX - Project Nevada.esp athornysituation.esp avangraffscorned.esp awilderwasteland.esp kochandbohr.esp outsidebets.esp rotfacetoriches.esp Pacersgambit.esp NewVegasBounties.esp NewVegasBountiesII.esp More Perks Update.esp More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp More Traits Update.esp ammoingredientsloot.esp Detect Traps - Traponator 4000.esp Detect Traps - DLC.esp christinecos.esp GRA WRP Compatibility Patch.esp ADAM - MAIN.esp ADAM - HH.esp ADAM - LR.esp ADAM - NCR Patrol Armour.esp ADAM - Outcast Ranger Armour.esp ADAM - Nemesis Armours.esp ADAM - Project Nevada Patch.esp ADAM - Trooper Gloves.esp Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp Holster.esp NVR- Recommended.esp New Vegas redesigned- Honest Hearts.esp Voice dissonance fix.esp MMUE-CP-New Vegas Redesigned.esp Dead Money - Automatic Rifle fix.esp Imp's More Complex Needs.esp Imp's More Complex Needs - JA - SORTED.esp IMCNNV - Sorted.esp IMCNNV - HUD and Hotkeys.esp UnlimitedTraits.esp WeaponModsExpanded.esp WMX-DeadMoney.esp WMX-HonestHearts.esp WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp Project Nevada - WMX.esp Improved Sound FX - WMX - Merged Major DLCs.esp WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp WMX-EVE-AllDLC.esp Project Nevada - EVE All DLC.esp Improved Sound FX - EVE.esp MMUE-CP-EVE.esp MMUE-CP-WMX.esp Vurt's WFO.esp ProjectRealityMkIv5HDR.esp Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp ILO - NVInteriors Project.esp DYNAVISION 3.esp 9A91.esp AN94.esp CAWS.esp HomemadeSMG.esp MoreChems.esp SW38S.esp TheInheritance.esp MMUE-CP-ILO.esp Mateba.esp MaresLeg.esp Lucky38Suite_Reloaded.espL38Fixer.espJIP Realistic Weapon Overheating.espMERGEDPATCH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drithius Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Did you mess with the bsa portion of Optimizer textures? it's a lot more prone to problems than the more standard setting. If I were getting missing mesh errors everywhere I went, across various mods, I would simply delete my FNV data directory and start the installation process all over. However, also bear in mind that you're right up around the limit on plugins. Deactivate a dozen or so and see if you still have problems before cleaning out your install. Edited October 15, 2013 by drithius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famine67 Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 I ran the Optimizer at Minimum without changing any bsa options. Looks like a clean reinstall is the only option. I'll make a working backup this time before using the Optimizer (if I even do so). Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornl Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Instead of scrubbing your system, I'd suggest that you first try the alternative drithius mentioned. It is most likely just a too large list. Try to disable around 1/4 of them at a time. If that fails because there might be errors in more then 1 mod, then do the opposite and enable 1/4 at a time and test them separately. I too have found that from time to time I have to back up all my FNV folders, delete everything (including the FNV folder in "my games") and reinstall. But most of the time it is enough to identify which mod(s) are having problems and de-activate and re-activate them. This pulls in the files from the original ZIP that NMM maintains. I too use Optimizer Textures and have had good results. Memory used goes down due to the smaller textures and with that I get a slightly faster and slightly more stable game. I also modify select BSAs, but I keep a copy and restore just that file if anything goes sideways. Also I only do 1 BSA at a time because as drithius said occasionally something weird happens when optimizing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famine67 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) I did both and appear to have fixed the issue. The optimizer worked this time as well. I had a lot of deactivated .esp files that I moved into another folder. That and removing a few non-essential mods seems to have helped a lot. Edited October 17, 2013 by Famine67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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