Melee while Jumping

[xicashina]

In base fallout 4 you cannot use any melee weapon attacks while jumping however you can use any form of gun attack including bashing. There is not presently a mod that enables melee while jumping so I was looking into applying such a change myself and am having difficulty finding what is stopping it from working.

 

So far I have been able to figure out the following:

-It is not prevented by any condition applied to the jumping or melee animations at the animation step

-If you perform a melee animation with forward momentum when on a slope the animation will perform properly as you fall.

-Attempting a workaround using a mod that directly requests an attack like Quick attack will fail due to "MeleeAttack Request Failed"

 

My current hypothesis are either:

 

a) there is a line in meleebehaviour.hkx that stops initiation of melee attacks blocks etc if you are airborne. (I am unclear how to access that file in order to investigate however)

b) there is an attribute applied to jumps that prevents initiating animations that cause directional movement such as most melee attacks (however this doesn't explain why blocking is prevented)

 

Any help on this would be appreciated

[Xeron222]

Hi.

I do have a bit of insight on this - but only as a player and not from a modder's perspective. There are actually a minimal amount of mods that attempt do combat while jumping / underwater. The way these are usually done is by examining a mod by 'Zartar' called 'Character Behaviors Enhanced'. I'll link a few of these at the bottom of this post, as well as the original mod itself.

The problem with all of these mods (Zartar's and all that use that one as a 'framework' / starting point) is that they all break the Solstheim boat cutscene (makes it VERY glitchy, might even CTD), and they also completely BREAK the dragon riding mechanic. I found this out after having the mod [DMT's Underwater Combat and Jump Attacks] and searching for hours online trying to find what was causing all the trouble. I'm not insulting these mods at all - I love that people are trying to do this, but for me...it makes parts of the game completely unplayable. :( If someone could find a work around for this issue, though - that would be AMAZING!!

Here are the mods I mentioned:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/90552/
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/26513

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/45254


I actually JUST found this patch for the issues I mentioned, but I have not yet tried it myself:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/40417

[xicashina]

Thanks for the insight unfortunately I am looking to do this in Fallout 4 and not Skyrim and from my experience the only things that are portable between the systems are models/meshes.

 

By the way I have used this mod:

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/68043

 

to perform Jumping attacks in Skyrim SE

[Xeron222]

Thanks for the insight unfortunately I am looking to do this in Fallout 4 and not Skyrim and from my experience the only things that are portable between the systems are models/meshes.

 

By the way I have used this mod:

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/68043

 

to perform Jumping attacks in Skyrim SE

Oops!! I'm so sorry! I don't know how I made it over to the FO4 forums. *facepalm* I thought I was still on Skyrim forums when I posted my reply.