Fallout 3 Crashing because of mods?

[Durzo187]

So here's the thing, I installed Fallout Wanderers Edition, Talon Company armor for FWE, RH Ironsights, DarnUi somthing, FWE combat overhaul and dynamic weather system (the one with snow and rain). I have fose enabled 1.7, archive invalidation enabled also but when I start the game it crashes on the first "power point" like thing or second one (the one with Bethesda on it).

 

BUT before I've already installed the mods along with WMK and the game never crashed and kept running but the second time I installed those mods without the WMK it crashes and even after uninstalling the mods my game still crashes. I know that I have everything I need to run the game because of my merged patch not having an error when I make it.

 

What should I do?

Is there a pattern for me to install the mods?

Load order problems?

 

My load order before and also now:

FWE

Darn

RH

FWE Combat overhaul

Dynavision

Talon stuff

my weather mods

[BlackRampage]

dynamic weather system (the one with snow and rain).

 

Are you referring to Dynamic Weather?

If you indeed have the rain and snow plugins as well, you will also need to install Enhanced Weather. Or, at least, you need some of it's assets. I suggest reading the Dynamic Weather installation instructions.

 

My load order before and also now:

FWE

Darn

RH

FWE Combat overhaul

Dynavision

Talon stuff

my weather mods

That's... not really a load order. Or at least it's not very useful.

Your actual load order should look somewhat like this:

*Example* Load Order:

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

...

all other esm's

...

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm

...

other mods/esp's

...

other Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esp's

...

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Main.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Anchorage.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - The Pitt.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Broken Steel.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Point Lookout.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Rain.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Night Eye Edition.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Anchorage (NEE).esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Rain (NEE).esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Dynamic Sneak Bonus.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Sandstorms.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Weather Machine ().esp

[merged patch, etc...]

(shamelessly copied from Xepha's description page)

[Durzo187]

woops my mistake, I mean Enhanced Weather.

 

Load Order:

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteek.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

FO3 Error Fixes.esp

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (Broken Steel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Vats Realtime.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

DUIF3Extras.esp

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

RH_Ironsights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp

RH_Ironsights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp

RH_Ironsights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp

RH_Ironsights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp

RH_Ironsights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp

RH_Ironsights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp

RH_Ironsights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp

RH_Ironsights_PL_NewItems.esp

RH_Ironsights_RemoveReticule.esp

FWE - Combat Oberhaul_Core.esm

FWE - Combat Overhaul_Equipment.esp

TalonExtraArmor.esm

Compatibility_Plugin_TalonExtraArmor_FWE_Brokensteel.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp

My Merged Patch.esp

[Purr4me]

• FO3 Error Fixes.esp<---marked as master file but is an esp
• RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm<--- in the wrong place, Goes above all esp files.
• TalonExtraArmor.esmEnhanced <--- in the wrong place, Goes above all esp files.
• Weather - Rain and Snow.esm<--- in the wrong place, Goes above all esp files.

kinda messed up a bit.

---------------------------------

Load Order:

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteek.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

 

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

TalonExtraArmor.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

FWE - Combat Oberhaul_Core.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

FO3 Error Fixes.esp <---try that but make darn sure where ever you place it, it is below all esm files.

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (Broken Steel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Vats Realtime.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

DUIF3Extras.esp

 

RH_Ironsights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp

RH_Ironsights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp

RH_Ironsights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp

RH_Ironsights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp

RH_Ironsights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp

RH_Ironsights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp

RH_Ironsights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp

RH_Ironsights_PL_NewItems.esp

RH_Ironsights_RemoveReticule.esp

 

FWE - Combat Overhaul_Equipment.esp

 

Compatibility_Plugin_TalonExtraArmor_FWE_Brokensteel.esp

 

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp

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kitty

Edited October 24, 2013 by Purr4me

[Durzo187]

still crashes, got up to the bethesda thing only

[Purr4me]

still crashes, got up to the bethesda thing only

here in the forums we have signatures,Bellow mine there is a link to fo3edit. download the fallout3 version of it 3.0.15, not the new one, we stay within a controlled area of testing before advancing to more sophisticated software's.

place it on the desktop, and run it, it should ask you where if you never had it before. OR it may altered y find the data needed.

 

in it's window, on the right, as it loads the data, it may find the problem and list a complaint of the problem. post that if such problem shows up.

 

you said you made a merged patch? with what? TES or Wrybash?

[Durzo187]

I used Fo3edit to make the merge patch and there's n error or problem of some sort when I ran Fo3edit 3.0.15

[Purr4me]

that's because 3.0.15 is the mate to this game. So what ever error IT says you have? post it, you an copy and paste that data.

 

later version will ignore a lot of stuff like <Unknow7> which is a water region, 3.0.15 does not miss anything.

 

FWE - Combat Oberhaul_Core.esm <--- drop that under FWE master and see what happens.

Edited October 24, 2013 by Purr4me

[Durzo187]

Tried it awhile ago too, but nothing happened still the same, it still crashes

[Purr4me]

ok make envelope on desk top. move all files except DLCs into it so they can not load at all no matter what. then test it. just get into the game and hard save once.

EDIT: for others here, we are attempting to find the literal needle in a haystack, Process of Elimination as mesh files and texture files and validation and all sorts of things ....fall under this.

 

1. Eliminate the mods them selves, No go? remove texture and mesh folders to storage folder and test again.
2. Test known Vanilla game with absolutely no other add on data installed // OR ! installed but removed from the line of file.
3. Once established the game Does not run with all of this? then we look at the system.
4. story says one time it runs ,now, does not, so what changed between times?

Kitty

Edited October 24, 2013 by Purr4me