Patlen123 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I recently purchased Skyrim on Steam and I want to start my first PC playthrough. I start the game and I play and at random points the game crashes. First time it crashed was when I was walking down the hill with Hadvar (As soon as you finish unbound), then when I killed a thief with Hadvar and tried to loot him on the way to Riverwood. These crashes happen constantly and I'd just like to know what is going on and what mod is causing this (Can't really start uninstalling one by one and checking because it happens randomly). Also when I uninstall a mod (Any mod) it stops for a little while and then it starts again.My load order: Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Falskaar.esm=1Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1ETaC - RESOURCES.esm=1JSwords.esm=1MagicDuelReborn.esm=1Solstheim Climate Overhaul.esm=1SPIKE.esm=1WinterholdDestruction.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1MoreRainHeavyandDarker.esp=1MoreSnowWindyand150percentLessView.esp=1Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1SplashofRain.esp=1AOS.esp=1mintylightningmod.esp=1MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp=1CLARALUX.esp=1CLARALUX-DG-Patch.esp=1CLARALUX-HF-Patch.esp=1Weapons and Armor fixes.esp=1Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1AshRocks.esp=1Blacksmiths Sell Firewood.esp=1Blacksmiths Sell Firewood - Dawnguard Add-On.esp=1HoldBorderBanners.esp=1Immersive Battles.esp=1Immersive Brigands.esp=1Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1Immersive Dragonborn.esp=1Immersive Factions.esp=1Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1Immersive Patrols.esp=1Immersive Travelers.esp=1Immersive Werewolves.esp=1Point The Way.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1WerewolfAftermathEquipper.esp=1AMatterOfTime.esp=1Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1iHUD.esp=1Bucklers-Complete.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=11nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1Unique Uniques.esp=1Dr_Bandolier.esp=1Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp=1Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp=1Lock Overhaul.esp=1DeadlyDragons.esp=1AdalMatar.esp=1BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp=1CornerofTheSkyrim.esp=1RIC_Dawnstar.esp=1DragonmournInn.esp=1exrorikstead.esp=1Immersive Darkwater crossing.esp=1Immersive Dawnstar.esp=1Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp=1Immersive Falkreath.esp=1Immersive Ivarstead.esp=1Immersive Karthwasten.esp=1Immersive Kynesgrove.esp=1Immersive Morthal.esp=1Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp=1Immersive Riverwood.esp=1Immersive Rorikstead.esp=1Immersive Shors stone.esp=1Immersive Solstheim.esp=1Immersive Stonehills.esp=1Immersive Whiterun.esp=1KingdomOfForsworn.esp=1MorthalsLegacy.esp=1NoDeathMod.esp=1PumpingIron.esp=1Realcitiessolitude.esp=1Sky Haven Temple and Onsen.esp=1BetterDocks-MergedPlugins.esp=1Better Docks DLC's - Compatible Version.esp=1TheDomain.esp=1TheFrontier.esp=1The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1Undeath.esp=1WhiterunFortified.esp=1WhiterunREVISION.esp=1RRBetterWhiterunInt.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp=1Civil War Overhaul.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1Headtracking.esp=1Killable Lootable Children for Hearthfires.esp=1RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp=1SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp=1TheChoiceIsYours.esp=1TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp=1Uncle Sheo.esp=1DarkbroSanctuary1.0.0.esp=1ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp=1ETaC - Dawnstar.esp=1ETaC - Dragon Bridge.esp=1ETaC - Ivarstead.esp=1ETaC - Riverwood.esp=1ETaC - Rorikstead.esp=1ETaC - Morthal.esp=1ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp=1ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Cities - Falkreath.esp=1RavenRockExpanded.esp=1Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp=1Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp=1Markath-CityofBloodandSilver.esp=1BFT Ships and Carriages - HF.esp=1ETaC - BFT Patch.esp=1RealisticRoomRental.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-PersidRRentalPatch.esp=1RRR_Hearthfire-Patch.esp=1RRR_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1AOS_CoT 3.1 compatibility patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp=1prod80_CoT_patch_FogEdition.esp=1NPCsUseAmmoAllBows.esp=1RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1FalskaarRNDHotfix.esp=1DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp=1Better Vampires.esp=1Predator Vision.esp=1Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp=1ESFCompanions.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightPatch.esp=1WRF_by_RolandSir_Main_file_DG.esp=1MagicDuelReborn - Shouts.esp=1NoSneakAttackSound.esp=1DragonCombatOverhaul.esp=1DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp=1The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1ABT - Loot Arrows -50%.esp=1ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +100%.esp=1ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +100%.esp=1ABT - Merchants Arrows +25%.esp=1ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp=1ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp=1ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp=1dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1Follower Trap Safety.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1AFT_NoDances.esp=1Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp=1TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp=1AOS_ELFX Patch.esp=1Purewaters.esp=1PurewatersDG.esp=1PurewatersDB.esp=1Purewaters-Falskaar.esp=1RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp=1NPCsUseAmmo_IWPatch.esp=1ETaC - Dawnstar SPO Patch.esp=1ETaC - Rorikstead SPO Patch.esp=1MoreSettlements.esp=1Morthal walls.esp=1Morthal Mall.esp=1RiftenThiefEdition.esp=1VampireSkinToneFixes.esp=1ETaC - Dawnstar HF Patch.esp=1MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp=1DawnofWindhelm.esp=1DawnstarBetterDocks - Dawnstar Expanded - Compatible Version.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1ASIS-Dependency.esp=1ASIS.esp=1 (Copied directly from NMM)All files are cleaned with TES5EDIT (At least the ones BOSS told me to clean)Any help would be greatly appreciated. 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artificialsloth Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I think the problem might not be a specific mod but the amount of mods your running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhowington Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I agree with artificalsloth you need to pare down to about half of what you have listed and start a new game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patlen123 Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) I agree with artificalsloth you need to pare down to about half of what you have listed and start a new game.Can you tell me the overall "safe" amount of mods it's possible to run without random crashes?I have narrowed it down to 166 plugins and I'm still getting crashes. (on a new saveNew Load Order GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Falskaar.esm=1Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=13rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1JSwords.esm=1MagicDuelReborn.esm=1Omegared99-Compilation.esm=1Solstheim Climate Overhaul.esm=1SPIKE.esm=1TravellersOfSkyrim.esm=0WinterholdDestruction.esm=1HighResTexturePack01.esp=0HighResTexturePack02.esp=0HighResTexturePack03.esp=0Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=0ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp=0Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1SplashofRain.esp=1AOS.esp=1BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp=1mintylightningmod.esp=1MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp=1Weapons and Armor fixes.esp=1Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1AshRocks.esp=1HoldBorderBanners.esp=1Point The Way.esp=1RedMountainErupts.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp=0TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.esp=0WerewolfAftermathEquipper.esp=0AMatterOfTime.esp=1Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp=1JSwords_Load_Screens.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1iHUD.esp=1Bucklers-Complete.esp=1Celtic and Germanic Armor and Weapons replacer.esp=1Celtic and Germanic Armor and Weapons standalone.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=11nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1Insanity's Shields.esp=1JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1Moar Kontent.esp=1Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp=1Medium-40Percent.esp=1PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp=1PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp=1Roman armor and weapons.esp=1Roman armor and weapons replacer.esp=1ShieldsofSkyrimLists.esp=1skyforgedShields.esp=1Unique Uniques.esp=1Viking Weaponry.esp=13rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp=1Dr_Bandolier.esp=1Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp=1Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp=1Lock Overhaul.esp=1DeadlyDragons.esp=1AdalMatar.esp=1RIC_Dawnstar.esp=1DragonmournInn.esp=1exrorikstead.esp=1KingdomOfForsworn.esp=1MorthalsLegacy.esp=1PumpingIron.esp=1Realcitiessolitude.esp=1SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp=1BetterDocks-MergedPlugins.esp=1Better Docks DLC's - Compatible Version.esp=1TheDomain.esp=1TheFrontier.esp=1Undeath.esp=1WheezesDungeonPack1.esp=1Wyrmstooth.esp=1Civil War Overhaul.esp=1Distant DetailHF.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp=1RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp=1SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp=1ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp=1Helgen Reborn.esp=1ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Cities - Falkreath.esp=1RavenRockExpanded.esp=1Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp=1Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp=1Markath-CityofBloodandSilver.esp=1BFT Ships and Carriages - HF.esp=1ETaC - BFT Patch.esp=0RealisticRoomRental.esp=1RRR_Hearthfire-Patch.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1AOS_CoT 3.1 compatibility patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp=1prod80_CoT_patch_FogEdition.esp=1Predator Vision.esp=1Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp=1ESFCompanions.esp=1WRF_by_RolandSir_Main_file_DG.esp=1MagicDuelReborn - Shouts.esp=1NoSneakAttackSound.esp=1DragonCombatOverhaul.esp=1DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp=1The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1ABT - Loot Arrows -50%.esp=1ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +100%.esp=1ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +100%.esp=1ABT - Merchants Arrows +25%.esp=1ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp=1ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp=1ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp=1dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=13DNPC.esp=0RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1FalskaarRNDHotfix.esp=1Follower Trap Safety.esp=1Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp=1TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp=1AOS_ELFX Patch.esp=1Purewaters.esp=1PurewatersDG.esp=1PurewatersDB.esp=1Purewaters-Falskaar.esp=1RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp=1Unique Region Names.esp=1ETaC - Dawnstar SPO Patch.esp=0ETaC - Rorikstead SPO Patch.esp=0Morthal walls.esp=1Morthal Mall.esp=1RiftenThiefEdition.esp=1VampireSkinToneFixes.esp=1DawnofWindhelm.esp=1DawnstarBetterDocks - Dawnstar Expanded - Compatible Version.esp=1M.D. Wolfe's (SER) Market fix.esp=1female npc animation fix.esp=1WestAsianArmorAndWeaponsReplacer.esp=1WestAsianArmorAndWeapons.esp=1Roman Conversion.esp=1SwimmingEnemies.esp=1Killable Lootable Children for Hearthfires.esp=1Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1unlimited shouts.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 Edited November 11, 2013 by Patlen123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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