tgtspoon Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 When I enter the "Chop Shop" in Underworld, leaving the Museum of History causes a CTD. (Some times I can make it out, but it will crash at the next load screen.) Here is my load order. Latest FO3 patch FOMM + FOSE----------------------------------------Fallout3.esmHairPack.esmCALIBR.esmFOOK.esmFWE_FO3_Wanderers_Edition.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmDarNifiedUIF3.espFOOK.espFWE_00_QUEST.espFWE_01_COMBAT.espFWE_02_COMBAT_II.espFWE_03_CHARACTER.espFWE_04_CHARACTER_II.espFWE_05_ITEMLOOT.espFWE_05_ITEMLOOT_II.espFWE_05_ITEMLOOT_III.espFWE_06_SPAWNS.espFWE_07_IMMERSION.espFWE_08_FEATURES.espFWE Compatibility - FOOK.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Ghoul Raise.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK + FWE.espF3UmpaAnimation.espBig and Small.espMaxLevelWorkaround.espWastelandMastery.espVatsLongerDistance.espLongerDeathCamera.esp Total active plugins: 29Total plugins: 29---------------------------------------- Thanks in advance for any help or advice, as I would like to be able to do the Riley's Rangers quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleRoe Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 does it freeze if you try leaving the building before you accept riley's quest? or just when you accept and leave? if it's when you accept and leave maybe it's your FWE_00_QUEST.esp conflicting. SPOILER! SPOILER S P O I L E R! ! ! BELOW! READ AT OWN RISK! Also if you never figure it out, you can actually do the quest without ever talking to riley. you just need to find the hospital her team is lodged up in,save them and then they will give you a map marker to the compound and once you get there you can talk to riley to complete the quest. i'd tell you where exactly the hospital is but i don't remember.. but google does! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgtspoon Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 It doesn't matter if I talk to Riley or not, if I leave the MoH after entering the Chop Shop it will crash. I will try doing the quest without talking to Riley. If it works I will simply avoid the Chop Shop altogether. Thanks for the info, Roe. *Edit* Saw your sig.----------------=Thank You=---------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiney4 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 When I enter the "Chop Shop" in Underworld, leaving the Museum of History causes a CTD. (Some times I can make it out, but it will crash at the next load screen.) Here is my load order. Latest FO3 patch FOMM + FOSE----------------------------------------Fallout3.esmHairPack.esmCALIBR.esmFOOK.esmFWE_FO3_Wanderers_Edition.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmDarNifiedUIF3.espFOOK.espFWE_00_QUEST.espFWE_01_COMBAT.espFWE_02_COMBAT_II.espFWE_03_CHARACTER.espFWE_04_CHARACTER_II.espFWE_05_ITEMLOOT.espFWE_05_ITEMLOOT_II.espFWE_05_ITEMLOOT_III.espFWE_06_SPAWNS.espFWE_07_IMMERSION.espFWE_08_FEATURES.espFWE Compatibility - FOOK.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Ghoul Raise.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK + FWE.espF3UmpaAnimation.espBig and Small.espMaxLevelWorkaround.espWastelandMastery.espVatsLongerDistance.espLongerDeathCamera.esp Total active plugins: 29Total plugins: 29---------------------------------------- Thanks in advance for any help or advice, as I would like to be able to do the Riley's Rangers quest. Your using the FOMM, so, my suggestion is, go through your list and highlight each mod. Disable all of them that give a WARNING report in the bottom window. Most of these can cause unpredictable data corruption. Disable "LongerDeathCamera.esp", "MaxLevelWorkaround.esp" and any other esps that were made before GECK was released on Dec. 12, 2008. They all seem to report 808698 entries, and some other weird data. This is my suggestion. The problem is, they cause such random and unpredictable problems that its hard to pin down if, and what kind of problems they might be causing. So, please respond whether this change makes a difference, if you do try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgtspoon Posted May 2, 2009 Author Share Posted May 2, 2009 I tried disabling older all mods excluding fwe, fook, mmm. still had the crash. doing the quest without talking to Riley worked. Ill except that as a work around. Hopefully I don't run into another problem. Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGBlank Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Are you using the latest patch? (1.5), it could be an effect of certain issues that has been introduced by that patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgtspoon Posted May 2, 2009 Author Share Posted May 2, 2009 Latest patch to what? Fallout 3: 1.4.0.6FOMM: 0.9.13FOSE: 1.1 beta 4CALIBR: 1.1FOOK: 1.6FWE: 4.6MMM: RC1 (?) I apologize for my ignorance, but if there is a patch or version I have that causes issues I'm all ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGBlank Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Fallout 3: 1.4.0.6 <-- this one.Luckily you're using 1.4 instead of the buggy 1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiney4 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Luckily you're using 1.4 instead of the buggy 1.5 Are there any discussions about 1.5 bugs? I thought I had heard the VATS bugs were fixed, though I wasn't 100% sure what those bugs are -- I noticed all too often I was getting 0% to hit in VATS, but I'm unsure if that was bug related. Oh, I'm getting off topic :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGBlank Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 patch 1.5 breaks mods and savegames that use mods that place npcs or creatures without flagging them as persistent.Half of the threads of the first two pages of beth's mod forums haves at lest one post of someone who had this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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