droscoe2 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I apologize in advance, I feel like I'm being annoying asking strangers to look at my long mod list, but I'm not sure what to do. I've deactivated most of my magic/spell mods, but something weird is still happening. After starting a new game, heavily modded, vanilla start, after the dragon attack on Helgen, going into the keep with Ralof, now every enemy has a RIDICULOUS amount of magical scrolls and tomes on them. In fact, it appears that they have a scroll for every Basic spell in the game. Every single one of them. Even Gunjar, the dead Stormcloak laying on the ground in the beginning (after Ralof cuts your binds) has an inventory FULL of scrolls. And every Imperial enemy has an inventory full of scrolls and tomes. What is happening here? 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IsharaMeradin Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 No idea what mod it might be. If you load your entire active load order in xEdit (TES5Edit or SSEEdit - whichever works for your game), you can then locate the record for Gunjar. If any mod directly adds scrolls, tomes or a formlist / leveled list to his inventory, it will show up as an overriding mod. That would be the mod to further investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7531Leonidas Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 I think that you might also take a look at your SPID log, and check to see which mods are running that might add such items. If there is more than one, it might quickly spam them. Also check your .ini for SPID, and change any needed % chance of spawning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droscoe2 Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 No idea what mod it might be. If you load your entire active load order in xEdit (TES5Edit or SSEEdit - whichever works for your game), you can then locate the record for Gunjar. If any mod directly adds scrolls, tomes or a formlist / leveled list to his inventory, it will show up as an overriding mod. That would be the mod to further investigate.What a ride I just went on. I followed your advice. Spent hours doing this. (learned how to use SSEdit, etc etc) And I found no mods affecting Gunjar specifically....which seemed strange. I was so confused. For like 2 hours I thought about this. Then I thought....wait what about the mods that don't have ESPs and only affect NPCs by running scripts at runtime? I wouldn't see these effects outside of the game, right? Lo' and behold, after deactivating 300 mods, and hours of troubleshooting, it turns out that "Odin Spells for NPCs" was giving NPCs not only spells, but like....LITERALLY giving them spell books and scrolls. If I wanted to loot their armor or stuff, I had to scroll down a huge list of scrolls and tomes. It was kind of hilarious. Anyway, thanks for the tip. I actually learned how to use a new tool for the future. Thank you IsharaMeradin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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