controller issues

[RAMc]

i play fallout 4 with a steam controller and for the most part its been fine. however i have lost the use of some of my buttons in game. i have checked in big picture mode and the controller buttons still work so i don't think this is a controller hardware issue.

i first lost the use of button underneath one of the paddle buttons but as i hardly used this button i just ignored the issue and played on.
then i lost the use of the top bumper buttons witch i had rebind to B and U. if i press B or U on the key board while playing they work as i had configured them to work but the controller does nothing.

now at over a 1000 hrs in i have lost the use of the start hold button which takes you in and out of workshop mode... the button still works for changing from third to first person but i can only enter workshop mode by going to the workshop table.

i am pulling my hair out at this stage as starting a new game is really not an option any ideas on how to resolve this major game issue would be fantastic

[Blinxys]

Not sure if this will help, but have at it and see.

Controller Controls with Mod Support

There is a note for full instructions if the text wall didn't hit you too hard on the way there. :wallbash:

 

Also check the requirements as they reference a number of mods that might be an issue.

Then see if you have any of those installed. :mellow:

 

One cannot make a truly informed decision without enough information. :ermm:

[RAMc]

Not sure if this will help, but have at it and see.

Controller Controls with Mod Support

There is a note for full instructions if the text wall didn't hit you too hard on the way there. :wallbash:

 

Also check the requirements as they reference a number of mods that might be an issue.

Then see if you have any of those installed. :mellow:

 

One cannot make a truly informed decision without enough information. :ermm:

im not sure what this controller support mod does....

 

i have played the game with my own set up for a looong time. i just dont understand why things no longer work.

 

im not sure another mod to change the key bind is what i need.

[RAMc]

i have so far been using a hybrid setup with the controller enabled in the fallout control settings with a few added hot key buttons activated on double presses as if it was from a key board press.... it seems the game doesnt normally allow inputs from both the keyboard/mouse and the controller but as i have had buffout 4 installed i have been able to have a hybrid set up using both the controller and the keyboard inputs.

 

why it no longer works is still to be discovered

 

using a controller configuration from the community that is set up as if it were on keyboard disables all the controller inputs....

 

im guessing if i switch back to keyboard and mouse in the in-game controller settings this might work... with the downside of all the controlls being a pain in the ass to get used to especially when mode shift is needed

 

has there been an update to buffout i wonder???

[Blinxys]

Auto Gamepad Switch is the only controller bit I have installed (on PC).

 

F4SE plugin that enables on-the-fly switching between KB/M and gamepad based on which device you are actively using, allowing you to use the mouse for menus and interactions, and the gamepad for movement and navigation.

 

Seems to work flawlessly for me, I don't even know it's there or what it does, but my controller is fine...

Maybe for you too, IDK. :huh:

[StormWolf01]

Heya RAMc!

Fellow controller player here :smile:

Also computer tech.

 

Sooooo.... first question is gonna be have you tested the controller with any other games to further verify that it's not the controller itself?

 

Have you checked to see if there are driver updates? Or updates to the software?

 

Have you tried reinstalling it?

 

Here's my biggest thought on it. Have you installed mods that have custom keyboard settings? Or that change the default settings?

While they aren't "keys" per se, there is still a keybinding, for the controls on a controller. And mods affecting the keybindings, Could be causing the problems that you're having.

[RAMc]

hi storm wolf thanks for the reply

so.... i have fallout installed on both my laptop and my desktop {i work away from home} both have exactly the same contoller setup and simillar mods installed {not exactly the same}

but they are saperate playthroughs.

 

the hotkeys on my desktop with the older playthrough work fine

the hotkeys on my laptop with the newer playthrough with dont work on the controller but do work on the keyboard

 

the controller setup i use is the official set up with some of my own added functions for extra hotkeys and a gyro function while aiming

all of these functions used to work but now the hotkeys which are linked to the buttons on the keyboard dont work with the controller

at some point they just stopped responding to the controller input

but they still work on the old save playthrough on my desktop

 

i have tried the dump and reset console commands which list three layers and it says te layers have been reset but this doesnt fix any of the issues

 

i have tried the player control command this doesnt seem to fix any issues either

[StormWolf01]

Heya Ram, no problem, let's see what we can do here.

We got a lot of good info to work with now. Primarily that we have two installs. One that works. So we have a control group! :smile: :dance:

 

Ok. So I'm still going with my first thought, that you've got a mod in there that affects the keybindings. I'm leaning more towards that, now that you say that the two installs have different load orders.

 

So here's my first suggestion. On the laptop. Disable all mods. Try a fresh, new character. Test to see if the controls work correctly on a savegame/character that doesn't have ANY mod data saved in it.

IF the controller functions correctly... then we do know that it's a mod causing the problem.

If that comes up as the cause... what you will want to do is compare your modlist on both machines, to determine which mods in the LO (Load Order) may be the problem. ( I recommend taking screenshots of both mod lists, that's easier for me, at least.)

Keep in mind tho that if you are using any mods that use F4SE, you are going to need to look inside the F4SE folders in your data folders, as well.

 

The next step would be to take that same test character, load up all the mods that are the same on both lists, and test.

If still successful/positive results, then take it one at a time. One at a time, activate the questionable mods, and test. Still on the test character.

 

Now. If the problem is there on the brand new test character, it's either one of 3 things. There's a problem with your game install. There's a problem with your gamepad control files. Or there's a problem there on the machine. Such as possibly a piece of software that is interfering.

 

Oh! One last question. Just thought of this. Do you play with any kind of overlay software? Such as the Steam overlay, or screen recording software, performance monitoring software, etc?

Also. One more question. Ok, fill me in. What is a gyro function? You've piqued my interest with this term :D

[RAMc]

thanks i will see whats what when i get the time and can be bothered with all the faff.

 

gyro is the tilt function it allows me to aim quicker and more precisely than the touch pad.

 

i use track pad as looking round but when aiming the gyro / tilt function is better

[StormWolf01]

Ram, I understand. It's time consuming, and time isn't always something that we have in abundance :(

 

OoooOOooo! Now I'm sorry that I asked about the Gyro. That sounds freaking fantastic! :woot: Sadly, my Wolverine Ultimate doesn't have a tilt sensor! :( I may look into the features of the Steam Controller, and do some reading of reviews. That really sounds like an awesome feature to have.

 

So it does leave me wondering tho. Is the gyro aiming controllable as far as the acceleration? That's one of the biggest problems with playing this game with a controller. Is the stick acceleration for aiming.

 

Really hope that things go well when you get a chance to test!