The Vaguest Problem Ever

[Meandmine]

So, this is probably too vague to help me, but I'm having a lot of CTDs at completely random moments. They generally occur when I move from outdoors to indoor (within seconds), indoors to outdoors (usually a couple minutes of play), opening containers (instantaneous), or trying to access magic/inventory menus (instantaneous).

 

I know it's not a memory problem, so I assumed it was scripts, and turned on the papyrus log. That turned out to be monumentally unhelpful. It's a different script each time, all from different mods, so I'm reasonably certain it's not scripts either. Sometimes I can play for hours on end,and other times it will crash within minutes of loading a save. I've run all over Skyrim and done many many things, and I still can't find a reasonable explanation or correlation between what's happening in Skyrim (visibly or in Papyrus) and the crashes.

 

Here's my mod list/load order:

 

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• Skyrim.esm
• Update.esm
• Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
• Dawnguard.esm
• Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
• HearthFires.esm
• Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
• Dragonborn.esm
• Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
• Falskaar.esm
• ApachiiHair.esm
• ApachiiHairFemales.esm
• AzarHair.esm
• SPERG.esm
• SPIKE.esm
• HighResTexturePack01.esp
• HighResTexturePack02.esp
• HighResTexturePack03.esp
• No_stretching.esp
• Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
• Better Dynamic Snow.esp
• RevampedExteriorFog.esp
• Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp
• Dark Dungeons for Dawnguard.esp
• Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp
• StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
• StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
• StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
• all killable.esp
• Ars Metallica.esp
• Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp
• Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp
• Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp
• CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
• chesko_wearablelantern.esp
• Dual Sheath Redux.esp
• unlimitedbookshelves.esp
• Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp
• RaceMenu.esp
• RaceMenuOverlays.esp
• SkyUI.esp
• iHUD.esp
• AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
• AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp
• BlackSacramentArmor.esp
• BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
• BoundArmors.esp
• Guild Duelist Armor.esp
• hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
• KarliahArmor2.esp
• Knight Of Thorns Armor.esp
• ktabladeofwoe.esp
• Raven Set v1.4.esp
• Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp
• TrissArmorRetextured.esp
• Unique Uniques.esp
• WestWindMisfit.esp
• dr_bandolier.esp
• bettercitiesdocksolitude.esp
• bettermarkarthexterieur.esp
• betterriften.esp
• CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
• CWIDawnguardPatch.esp
• CWIDragonbornPatch.esp
• hg.esp
• realcitiessolitude.esp
• bleedeffects.esp
• Civil War Overhaul.esp
• Dialog-Priority.esp
• Differently Ebony.esp
• OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp
• dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
• dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
• stronger daedric artifacts.esp
• torches for realistic lighting.esp
• uncle sheo.esp
• aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
• deadlyspellimpacts.esp
• DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp
• the dance of death - dawnguard edition.esp
• magicscaling.esp
• SPERG.esp
• SPERG-DG.esp
• SPERG-DB.esp
• EnchantingAwakened.esp
• EnchantingAwakenedPlugins.esp
• EnchantingAwakenedDawnguard.esp
• dd-no spinning death animation.esp
• LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp
• XCES.esp
• TSOnTheSpot.esp
• 3DNPC.esp
• HothFollower.esp
• UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
• UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
• HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
• DAWN 1.esp
• dunDarklightIllia.esp
• BVFE_Serana.esp
• Extended Slider Colors.esp
• WATER.esp
• WATER Plants.esp
• WATER DG.esp
• WATER DB Waves.esp
• WATER Falskaar.esp
• Bashed Patch, 0.esp
• Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

[sonicp]

Must be skse plugins failing to work properly.

Do you use hair physics?

[chanchan05]

How are you so sure it's not a memory problem? Have you ran Skyrim Performance Monitor?

[Meandmine]

@sonicp: No, I do not.

 

@chanchan05: Well, I kept track via task manager, which is by no means infallible, but it was no more than 3Gb of memory used. If you could point me in the right direction I could try the Skyrim Performance Monitor, but I am 99.9% sure it's not, as the time between crashes varies between 5 minutes and 6 hours (though it has gotten worse, it seems to be about < 1 hour now), and memory issues cause a crash within a distinct time period of starting a game.

[chanchan05]

3.1GB is the hardware limit for Skyrim on RAM because it's a 32bit program, so hitting that will actually indeed cause CTD. 3GB is already dangerously close, and a sudden spike like the cell you are in suddenly generating bandits while the RAM is already at 3GB could likely cause CTD. Ideally you should keep RAM far away from 3GB.

 

 

Skyrim Performance Monitor

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/6491/?

[Meandmine]

I ran it with SPM, and my memory stays around 1Gb, with VRAM @ ~3Gb. As you can see. Not sure if ENBoost/ENBHost is skewing the results or not.

 

 

[sonicp]

do you use official high res textures from bethesda?

they say its buggy but I cant clarify this because I dont use it, my computer cant handle it.

[Meandmine]

I do, and I also have the Unofficial Patches for everything, so anything game-breaking shouldn't be so much anymore.

[chanchan05]

Well your GPU is pushing almost 100%. Maybe your game tried to load more stuff when your GPU was already full? Try disabling the textures, or at least used a texture pack optimizer plugin to lower VRAM usage and see if you still CTD

[Meandmine]

What is a 'texture pack optimizer'? I disabled the textures for 2K Skyrim, leaving WATER and SMIM as my only other main other graphic mods (unless you count K ENB . . . :P ) and my game had no noticeable drop in G/C- PU performance.