Game unplayable - which mods do cause the error?

[chanchan05]

Run BOSS. When it finishes, it opens Chrome or whatever browser you use. Click on "recognized plugins". That's your log. Not sure if it could be exported in a different format, but doesn't matter since you can copy paste it or save the web pages as html. Don't forget to also copy the list in "unrecognized plugins" if you have any.

[Verodor]

Here you have my BOSS log:

 

 

 

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

• Skyrim.esm Active
• Update.esm Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• ApachiiHair.esm Active
• ApachiiHairFemales.esm Active
• RaceCompatibility.esm Active
• AOM.esm Active
• AP Skyrim.esm Active
• BBLuxurySuite.esm Active
  • Requires: Skyrim 1.6.89+
  • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
• Evil Lair of Hydra.esm Active
• hdtHighHeel.esm Active
• moonpath.esm Active
• ors_morthalpain.esm Active
• ORS_SolitudeGate.esm Active
• RiverHelm.esm Active
  • Warning: This file contains 50 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
• SkyMoMod.esm Active
• Solitude A City Of Trade.esm Active
  • Warning: This file contains 2 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
• SPIKE.esm Active
• UndergroundBathhouse.esm Active
• WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm
• jaws.esp Active
• RW_JAWS_Patch.esp Active
• Skyrim - Director's Cut.esp Active
• Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}
  • Requires: Skyrim 1.9.32+
  • Note: If you using version 2.0 of the unofficial patches but you see this message you need to download this file: userlist.txt. After the download you need to copy this file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder or add the contents of this file to an already existing userlist.txt. Just ignore this message after updating any preexisting userlist.txt or copying the file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder.
• Lisette.esp Active
• Morning Fogs.esp Active
• Rainbows.esp Active
• Windfull Skyrim.esp Active
• AOS.esp Active
  • Note: See also AOS compatibility patches page on Nexus.
• 00SexyHouseVendors.esp Active
• 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp Active
• AMatterOfTime.esp Active
• AOM.esp Active
• armored skeleton.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
• AtronachForgeFix.esp Active
• Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp Active
• Birdsofskyrim.esp Active
• DragonSoulsToPerks.esp Active
• EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp Active
• ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp Active
• FishingInSkyrim.esp Active
• improvedfish.esp Active
• milk.esp Active
• prostitutes.esp Active
• SaltSacks.esp Active
• ShootingStars.esp Active
• SkyMoMod_lists.esp Active
• Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active
• smeltdown_ingots_osr.esp Active
• WetandCold.esp Active
  • Requires: Skyrim 1.9.29.0.8+
• ZazResources.esp Active
• SkyMoMod Extras Collectables.esp Active
• Destructible_bottles.esp Active
• Footprints.esp Active
• RaceMenu.esp Active
• RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
  • Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
• SkyUI.esp Active
• manny_Status.esp Active
  • Requires: Skyrim 1.8.151+
• AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp Active
• Ayumi Set.esp Active
• battleflute.esp Active
• Cloaks - No Imperial.esp Active
• Craftable Unique Set.esp Active
• CraftablePantysCBBEv3M.esp Active
• d2Helmets.esp Active
• DarkAtronach.esp Active
• DarkDiciple DBreplacer.esp Active
• Darklilith.esp Active
• DarkSisterhoodByNausicaa.esp Active
• Davjes_SorceressArmorHHS.esp Active
• Demothris.esp Active
• UNP Jewelry.esp Active
• Dynasty Armor.esp Active
• Ebony Samurai Plate Armor.esp Active
• FlameAtronachArmor.esp Active
  • Requires: CBBE
• FullBootForKKSA.esp Active
  • Requires: CBBE
• Gatti14Yumiko.esp Active
• Gatti12Jewelry.esp Active
• GattiBondage0.esp Active
  • Requires: CBBE
• GattiQBCollection.esp Active
• geralt_ravenarmor_v02b.esp Active
• Ghosu - Horker Bow.esp Active
• HentaiMaxiArmor.esp Active
• hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• Immersive Weapons.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• Insanity's Pale Blade.esp Active
• JackshCelineArmor.esp Active
• KURESE Gloria conversion.esp Active
  • Requires: DIMONIZED UNP
• Lady Elegance.esp Active
• LayerBikini.esp Active
• leathercollar1mm.esp Active
• LeiFangAndChristieByNausicaa.esp Active
  • Requires: CBBE
• LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp Active
• ly witch.esp Active
• magicka sabers.esp Active
• MageBackpack_byTumbajamba.esp Active
• Masters of Death - Sicarius Armor (Standalone).esp Active
• NDlifeguard.esp Active
• Neo's Scouter Set.esp Active
• Neo's Devilmaid2.esp Active
• NewmillerCasualBikiniUNP2.esp Active
  • Note: Be sure this is the correct version of this esp for whichever body type you have installed. The esp name is NOT different for each body type.
  • Requires: DIMONIZED UNP or CBBE or UNP Blessed Body (UNPB).
• NewmillerShoesUNP.esp Active
  • Note: Be sure this is the correct version of this esp for whichever body type you have installed. The esp name is NOT different for each body type.
  • Requires: DIMONIZED UNP or CBBE or UNP Blessed Body (UNPB).
• NewVampChainsCuirass.esp Active
• R18Pn - Argent Iron Armor.esp Active
• Remodeled Armor.esp Active
• Scene's Fire Dragon Armour.esp Active
• Scene's Blood Dragon Armour.esp Active
• Schwertleite Set.esp Active
• seducesets.esp Active
  • Requires: CBBE
• SED7-CBBE3_UNIEDITIONfemaleNipplePiercing_SwordNShield.esp Active
  • Requires: CBBE
• SED7-CBBE3_SILVEREDITION_femaleLabiaPiercings.esp Active
  • Requires: CBBE
• SilverArmor.esp Active
• SkyHeels.esp Active
• StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp Active
• teraarmors-cbbebynausicaa.esp Active
  • Requires: CBBE
• throwingweapons.esp
• Troll Hunter Armor by Hothtrooper44.esp Active
• TS_RedSlickBikini.esp Active
• Unique Uniques.esp Active
• UNP Jewelry Variants V-2.esp Active
  • Requires: DIMONIZED UNP
• UNP Leather Clothes.esp Active
  • Requires: DIMONIZED UNP
• UNP Undies.esp Active
  • Requires: DIMONIZED UNP
• ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp Active
• lc_immersiveloot.esp Active
• HarvestOverhaul.esp Active
• HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp Active
• Lock Overhaul.esp
• Tropical Skyrim -- Birds.esp Active
• DeadlyDragons.esp Active
• ERSO 03.5 - New Dragon Loots.esp Active
  • Note: Use only one ERSO 03.5 esp.
• Monster Wars.esp Active
  • Warning: This file contains 9 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
• adalmatar.esp Active
  • Note: V1.1+: This file contains 3 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically, and which are reported by the mod author to be harmless artifacts from Creation Kit export.
• BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp Active
  • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
• BBLSapachii.esp Active
  • Requires: Skyrim 1.6.89+
• BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp Active
  • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
• BBLSspouse.esp Active
  • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
• BBLSVisitors.esp Active
  • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
• BBLuxurySuiteClassier.esp Active
  • Requires: Skyrim 1.6.89+
• BecomeKingOfRiverHelm.esp Active
  • Warning: This file contains 12 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
• hunter.esp Active
• inconsequential npcs.esp Active
• Liberation Beacon.esp Active
• moonpath_questdata.esp Active
• ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp
• PumpingIron.esp Active
• reaper's the dark tower.esp Active
• Sharks.esp Active
• Skyrim School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.esp
• Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp Active
  • Requires: CBBE
• Syerscote.esp
• TheDomain.esp Active
  • Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
• thefrontier.esp Active
• tundra defense.esp Active
• ub_invite_any_npc.esp Active
• voidLetsGetNaked.esp Active
• LeatherW_fix.esp Active
• Realistische Trankgewichte.esp Active
• AchieveThat.esp Active
• armored-horses.esp Active
• SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active
• Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp Active
• RRRE-Moonpath-Patch.esp Active
• Convenient Horses.esp Active
  • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
• Spider Terror.esp Active
• UnreadBooksGlow.esp Active
• Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp Active
• skyforgedWeapons.esp Active
• Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp
• bathhouse.esp Active
• Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp Active
• Helgen Reborn.esp Active
• Solitude A City Of Trade.esp Active
  • Incompatible with: Solitude A City Of Trade.esm
• WaterPlants.esp Active
• RealisticRoomRental.esp Active
• RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  • Requires: RND_Water-Patch.esp
• Water_RND-Patch.esp Active
• rnd_milk-patch.esp Active
• RND_ImprovedFish-Patch.esp Active
• RND_Overhaul.esp Active
• RND_DestructibleBottles-Patch.esp Active
• RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp Active
• RND_RWS-Patch.esp Active
• RND_SkyMoMod-Patch.esp Active
• RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
• FemaleWerewolf.esp Active
• ASX_Spells.esp Active
• DragonCombatOverhaul.esp Active
• The Dance of Death.esp Active
• Yield.esp Active
• CookingAlchemy.esp Active
• Sneak Tools.esp Active
• Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Active
• Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp Active
• NiruinsBusinessPlan.esp Active
• vImmersiveBeds.esp Active
• TSLCF1.esp Active
• naiadracebyden.esp Active
• NaviRace.esp Active
• Witch Elf Race.esp Active
• UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
  • Requires: Skyrim 1.5.24+
  • Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
• AelaTheHuntress.esp Active
• Amanda.esp Active
• CamillaValerius.esp Active
• CarlottaValentia.esp Active
• Delphine.esp Active
• Faleen.esp Active
• Golda.esp Active
• IdgrodRavencrone.esp Active
• Lyla.esp Active
• Maven.esp Active
• mayatola UFF.esp Active
• Michelle.esp Active
• MirabelleErvine.esp Active
• Misha.esp Active
• Saadia.esp Active
• Sapphire.esp Active
• Ysolda.esp Active
• NoNakedComments.esp Active
• mixedunittactics.esp Active
• Hot Volcanic Water.esp Active
• WATER.esp Active
• WATER - Get Wet.esp Active
• GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp Active

 

and also the unrecognized mods:

 

• aSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active
• unofficialHousecarlSolitude.esp Active
• EroticStatues - Understone Keep (Markarth).esp Active
• unofficialHaelga.esp Active
• Senna.esp Active
• Bothela.esp Active
• GormlaithGoldenHilt.esp Active
• unofficialLaila.esp Active
• Rikke.esp Active
• deadlytrolls.esp Active
• Salome.esp Active
• tiger.esp Active
• Vaszumriek.esp Active
• The Golden Touch.esp Active
• Trollhunter_RW_Patch.esp Active
• _clumod.esp Active
• NewVampChainsGloves.esp Active

[chanchan05]

Well your BOSS log shows a lot of reasons for the CTD

 

1. You don't have Dawnguard, Hearthfire or Dragonborn. Some mods require those. Other mods provide a version that allows you to use them without the DLC. Make sure you used the correct version. You'll have to check your mods individually.

 

2. You have a LOT of deleted navmesh records. Check the mod description if this is normal.

 

3. I don't see any AOS compatibility patches as recommended by BOSS. Are you sure you don't need any?

 

4. You have a LOT of armors missing the requirement mods (CBBE and UNP). And I'm not sure if you can use CBBE and UNP together since they both alter the NPC bodies. You'll have to choose only one (CBBE or UNP), and dump the mods that require the other, or if you're lucky they have a patch to allow them to be used with the other body mod.

 

5. Solitude City of Trade.esp is incompatible with Solitude City of Trade.esm, you only need one.

 

 

In other words, you have a lot of installation errors or missing requirements which is why you are crashing. Seems like you don't read instructions very well. :D

[Verodor]

1. You don't have Dawnguard, Hearthfire or Dragonborn. Some mods require those. Other mods provide a version that allows you to use them without the DLC. Make sure you used the correct version. You'll have to check your mods individually.

 

 

Yes, I don't have any of the DLCs. That's why I only use Mods which clearly don't need the DLCs. Some of them are not up to date - that's because I don't want to buy the DLCs. So I have to stick to the versions which only use Skyrim.esm and Update.esm.

By the way: Would I use a mod which needas a DLC, the game would crash instantly after the start. I don't have that problem ^^

 

 

 

2. You have a LOT of deleted navmesh records. Check the mod description if this is normal.

That may be one problem. I wasn't able to solve that so far. Some mod authors said that is normal, others weren't able to do something about it and some said they will make an update. It's a pain in the ass with these navmeshs.

 

 

 

3. I don't see any AOS compatibility patches as recommended by BOSS. Are you sure you don't need any?

Compability patch for or an audio overhaul!? I doesn't do anything else but change some of the sound effects ingame. Why need a compability patch for that? None of my other mods touches the audio files so far o.O

 

 

 

4. You have a LOT of armors missing the requirement mods (CBBE and UNP). And I'm not sure if you can use CBBE and UNP together since they both alter the NPC bodies. You'll have to choose only one (CBBE or UNP), and dump the mods that require the other, or if you're lucky they have a patch to allow them to be used with the other body mod.

I this chase, BOSS is completely wrong. I'm using the latest CBBE-body and had all armors working so far. From the ones made for UNP, I use only the ones which are either compatible with CBBE or don't have to many glitches. They are all tested one by one so that couldn't be a problem.

 

 

 

5. Solitude City of Trade.esp is incompatible with Solitude City of Trade.esm, you only need one.

My bad - I must have missed that :confused:

[chanchan05]

For the compatibility patches, some mods (I use Deadly Dragons for instance) I think tries to use audio files that have been changed by AOS. Just check if you need a compatibility patch.

 

Also, I forgot to mention, WARZONES is flagged as highly unstable by the STEP community, and it's labeled as use at your own risk. It may or may not work, or may or may not cause CTDs and crashes.

[Azakiel]

Yeah, for me the major issues that jump out are the use of Warzones, using both the esm and esp versions of Solitude city of thieves, and the masses of missing navmeshes.

 

my advice would be to contact the mod author for all the mods with deleted navmeshes, and find out the exact reason for the deleted navmeshes (bear in mind that later mods may restore those navmeshes or alter them, which could cause various unexpected navmesh problems.

 

you also appear to be missing a compatibility patch for RND, it probably won't do anything to help your CTDs, but it will ensure that both mods take effect as expected.

 

You have a lot of heavily scripted mods (especially combat related mods). This can often cause problems if all the mods (or even a selection) are all trying to run a bunch of scripts during an intensive part of the game (such as combat) which could be another cause of your crashes.

 

 

In terms of finding file conflicts with wrye bash, you'll be wanting to look under the installers tab. If you don't see anything there, you want to move all the installers from where they are currently located to the Bash Installers folder (which should be located in the Steam folder under Skyrim Mods).

 

From there you should really do as I suggested earlier completely clear your skyrim data directory, and reinstall the files from the ground so that you can get the best idea of what files are conflicting.

[Konig91]

If you use WARZONES or Immersive Creatures disable these mods and try to use Skyrim save cleaner : http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31724/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D31724%26preview%3D&pUp=1

[Verodor]

If you use WARZONES or Immersive Creatures disable these mods and try to use Skyrim save cleaner : http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31724/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D31724%26preview%3D&pUp=1

I don't use both for good reasons. Warzones was one of the most instable mods ever and made my game crash already at the first test. So I deactivated it before even making a savegame with it and that was already one and a half year ago.

 

And Immersive Creatures were never on my PC. Didn't need that one since I habe SkyTest and RealWildlife.

 

 

 

But you guys helped me a lot already. I'll try to solve the problem with the nasmeshes. And well - when I can find the time anytime I'll also try the reinstall with Wrye Bash.

[Konig91]

Oh, if you find a good way to solve those deleted navmeshes, care to post it for us? : )

[Verodor]

Oh, if you find a good way to solve those deleted navmeshes, care to post it for us? : )

I'll do so but until now there was no solution left. Looks like I'll have to work for a replacement myself.

 

Might as well post here again as soon as one or more mods have cleaned navmeshes.

Edited December 31, 2013 by Verodor