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HELP! CTD on loading with NMM, SKSE


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Hi all,

 

I've been mostly using Workshop until I found mods are better supported on Nexus and so installed NMM and SKSE and a few other mods but on launching the game, it CTD as soon as I see the skyrim logo at the start of the game.

 

Here is my BOSS log

 

 

 

 

======================================
SKSE Plugins
======================================
SKSE Version: 0.1.6.16
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Recognised Plugins
======================================
These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.
Skyrim.esm Active
Update.esm Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}
Dawnguard.esm Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}
HearthFires.esm Active
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
Dragonborn.esm Active
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Stats}}
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Active
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
SPIKE.esm Active
lockpickvision.esp Active
auto unequip ammo.esp
bladesfactionfix.esp Active
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active
dragonsoulstoperks.esp Active
dungeonquestawareness.esp Active
Immersive Battles.esp Active
Immersive Brigands.esp Active
Immersive Dawnguard.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
Immersive Dragonborn.esp Active
Immersive Factions.esp Active
Immersive Mercenaries.esp Active
Immersive Patrols.esp Active
Immersive Travelers.esp Active
Immersive Werewolves.esp Active
Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp Active
Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp Active
WetandCold.esp Active
WetandCold - Ashes.esp Active
crowdedcities.esp Active
SkyUI.esp Active
backpack.esp Active
dragonboneweaponscomplete.esp Active
lefthandrings.esp Active
lefthandrings - dawnguard.esp Active
lighterdragonitems.esp Active
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active
* Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
levelingmerchantswallets.esp Active
* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active
Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp Active
sos - the dungeons.esp Active
* Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
sos - the wilds.esp Active
* Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
sos - civilization.esp Active
* Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp Active
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Active
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Active
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-7.esp Active
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp Active
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp Active
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp Active
* Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch.
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp Active
* Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch.
SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp Active
SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp Active
SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp Active
* Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and CoT patch.
SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp Active
* Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and CoT patch.
bettermagic_full.esp
Duel - Combat Realism.esp Active
balanceddestruction.esp
* Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version.
followers keep up.esp Active
followers keep up (dawnguard).esp Active
follower trap safety.esp Active
barenziahquestmarkers.esp Active
dragonpriestmaskquestmarkers.esp Active
======================================
Unrecognised Plugins
======================================
The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.
dragonborn map markers.esp Active
freecraft.esp Active
freecrafthearthfire.esp Active
freecraftdawnguard.esp Active
freecraftdragonborn.esp Active
perklessalchemy.esp Active
perklessenchanting.esp Active
skyrim map markers visible.esp Active
and my most recent Papyrus log
[01/06/2014 - 02:02:04PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)

[01/06/2014 - 02:02:04PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)

[01/06/2014 - 02:02:04PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) -1073741824 (max total)

 

 

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How many of these mods did you install all at once? It's never recommended to install more than one mod at a time and never on an existing save game!

 

First go through your BOSS log and apply any changes it suggests including removing unnecessary esp's (SoS - Civilization patches that are unused for example).

 

If you still have crashes after that try the following steps:

 

The following is standard trouble shooting for mod issues not pinned to a single mod (this is why you test every single mod in your install as you go, individually and with all your other mods - to pinpoint problems at the mod from the very beginning).

  • First - have you verified your game files through steam and updated to the latest patch?
  • Second - uncheck all your mods, start a new game, save after the chargen. This will be your 'tester save.' Do Not Overwrite or Delete this save.
  • Third - Enable five mods.
  • Four - Go into game with your tester save. Run from one end of the game world to the other. Go into a few cities. Interact with a few things that are mod related. See if anything crashes.
  • Five - No crashes? Repeat 3-5. It crashed or something's not right? Go to step 6.
  • Six - something crashed? uncheck one of the five mods then go back to your tester save, repeat step 4.

Continue until you have found and fixed all crashing and freezing errors.

 

These steps are relevant for all bethesda's moddable games (with the possible exception being step 1 which is unncessary for games older than NV).

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Hi all,

 

I've been mostly using Workshop

 

Did you unsubscribe from your Workshop mods when you switched to getting them from The Nexus?

 

If not, the Workshop will re-download them. In some cases, due to the size limit at The Workshop, it will download out of date versions and overwrite the Nexus ones.

 

BOSS should catch that, especially with the Unofficial Patches, but it's worth checking.

 

Then go through the trouble shooting Oubliette recommends.

 

As a short cut, here is my Mod List from Plugins.txt - any I have that you have would be a safe place to start.

 

Disable any others and see if you can run the game after re-sorting with the latest version of BOSS.

 

Then follow Oubliette's advice for the others.

 

 

Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
ImmersiveContent.esm
More Interactive Items.ESM
More Interactive Items [Dawnguard].ESM
More Interactive Items [Hearthfire].ESM
SPIKE.esm
SMPC.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
SMPC_sounds.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
SplashofRain.esp
BardSoundsMalukah.esp
ImmersiveContentExteriorLighting.esp
ImmersiveContentVeryLateLightPatch.esp
ImmersiveContentEXTLightDawnguard.esp
realrainextended.esp
TradeBarter.esp
_pocketempirebuilder.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
alchemy guide.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
Bag of Holding.esp
Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
becomeahighwayman.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
Birdsofskyrim.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Coins.esp
CP Apple Trees.esp
d_b Whetstone.esp
DivinePunishmentForArrowsToTheKnee.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
FishingInSkyrim.esp
FISS.esp
HunterTraps.esp
JBS_banking_redux.esp
Mine and Cut Gems.esp
MultiSack.esp
RedMountainErupts.esp
ScarabHearthstone.esp
skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp
Traps Make Noise.esp
Traps Are Dangerous.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
RaceMenu.esp
SkyUI.esp
iHUD.esp
TakeNotes.esp
_shb_DH_Smithing.esp
battleflute.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
EnhancedCrafting.esp
Ghosu - SkullHelmet.esp
Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
BardsCollegeBed.esp
Bards&Merchants.esp
Life In Prison.esp
LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
RPQuestAssist_2dot0.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
YourMarketStall.esp
Realistic Gold Weight.esp
AchieveThat.esp
AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp
barteringmod.esp
BR_HoodCirclets.esp
Bully brawlers.esp
BurntCorpse.esp
DartTrap harder.esp
GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_Vanilla.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp
Headtracking.esp
ImmediateDragons.esp
LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp
NoAutoSkillBooks(Better).esp
Realistic poison.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
RunesMax4.esp
SIDT - Skyrim.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
dD-No Screen Blood.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
trulyundead.esp
TwoRings.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
vinis_crime_gold.esp
wizDynamicThings.esp
Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
Shortcuts.esp
Provincial Courier Service.esp
SkyrimSewers.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
abotFiresHurt.esp
Field Alchemy.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
BuryTheDead.esp
ConjurationMadnessModv1.esp
MasterIllusionCapRemover.esp
Upgrade Leveled Items Spell.esp
Magelight Multi Cast.esp
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
Realistic crime report radius.esp
DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
Sneak Tools.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
BHWarPaints.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
RealShelter.esp
Atlas Map Markers.esp
Atlas Blackreach.esp
Atlas Dawnguard.esp
Atlas Dragonborn.esp
AppleTrees.esp
Craftable Jester Clothes.esp
WTM_Walking Through Molasses.esp
World_Map_No_Fog.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
AskFollowerSkills.esp
moveit.esp
UFOtweak.esp
World_Map_Height_Pitch_Tweak_250.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

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[01/06/2014 - 02:02:04PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) -1073741824 (max total)

 

 

I didn't notice this the first time. What on Earth are you doing in your Skyrim.ini file?

 

Before doing anything else at all, change it to this:

 

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation=1
iMinMemoryPageSize=128
iMaxMemoryPageSize=512
iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=76800

 

 

Then see if the game runs. If not, go back to post 3 and 2 and do that as well. But don't change iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes.

 

Why on Earth would you want Papyrus to use that much RAM? A whole GB? :ohmy:

 

 

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