Difference between "conjuring" and "summoning"

[Dracula420]

i was just having a random thought about implications of there being a difference.

 

as i see it from a (hopefully) lore friendly point of view:

Summoning is the act of yanking a denizen of the outer realms, usually (but not limited to) deadra or undead and magically binding it to your will.

Conjuring is the act of creating something by directly converting magic into whatever it is you want to make.

 

which would change the way you think of the thralls. at master level conjuration you wouldn't need to pull, say a frost atronach out of oblivion, you would just use magicka to create one from "scratch". no need to bind it as its created and controlled by your will. which would then lead to it sharing your understanding of magic.

say you have the augmented frost perk, any frost atronachs you conjure(create) would also have this understanding and have stronger spells because of it. And the

flip side is that if you conjure flame atronach, your/its understanding of frost would protect it somewhat from it.

 

the conjure familiar spell would be much more usefull early on as a simple distraction. its just a simple, easy to conjure magical construct. not very powerful or bright but easy for the aspiring sorcerer to train with.

 

of course creating things out of magic directly is more the purview of the college of alteration but that probably a whole other discussion

 

my point i guess is what do you think of the difference if there is one?

 

and do other people think about random stuff like this?

Edited January 12, 2014 by Dracula420

[CookieDynamics]

I believe Conjure and Summon are synonyms.

 

The etymological origin of the word Conjure is the latin "con" + "jurare" which is "to command on oath" (quoting the Online Etymology Dictionary) ...

 

Which, to me, translates into "making a pact with the entity you're bringing forth"... when you conjure something you kind of make a deal with it.

 

 

Summon comes from the latin "sub" (under) + "monere" (warn) which together translates into "to excite into action", also "summundre" (to call forth).

 

To me, both of those sound like you're asking something that already exists to help you.

[Dracula420]

wow i did not know any of that lol.

 

so i guess this is an alteration thing. i kind of like the idea of creating things from the base materials as opposed to summoning them from somewhere else. maybe a more in depth version of the atronach alter from that oblivion DLC frostcrag spire. the idea that your total understanding of magic across all schools could affect your creations is also very cool to me. hmmm i need to learn to script....