FadeToBlackk Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) So I'm experiencing constant (~every 5 minutes) CTDs when I'm exploring outside. As usual, the Papyrus logs are useless - a lot of mod spam but no errors when the crash happened. If i disable SafetyLoad, I freeze instead of crashing. I don't notice the crash in any particular location; it seems to occur everywhere outside (although perhaps at varying frequencies). My mod list is preposterously big (200+ plugins), but my system should be able to handle it, as I get a steady 55-60 FPS up till the moment it crashes. In Skyrim Performance Manager my RAM usage doesn't go over 1GB when it crashes so that shouldn't be the problem. GPU load and VRAM are pretty much always maxed out, so again I doubt that's the problem since nothing changed before the crash. CPU load tends to be lower. Naturally, I suspect that this results from a mod conflict, but due to mod dependencies and the random nature of the crashes it's extremely hard to debug. I always run BOSS (and ReProccer) whenever I make a mod change, and it hasn't given me any major warnings. I know it's unsurprising that I'm crashing with so many mods installed, I'm just wondering if anyone knows of a conflict that might be causing this issue. Underneath is any information that might be the least bit useful. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Side note: I'm also getting occasional crashes (always CTD regardless of SafetyLoad, no errors in log) when opening containers or viewing map/magicmenu/inventory/journal. I suspect this issue arises from a different conflict. I've been experiencing it less lately so it may be fixed, though I doubt it. 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Warpaint and Dirt+The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves+The Eyes Of Beauty+Brows+Realistic Needs and Diseases+Beards+Feminine Hands CBBE UNP+FemFeet Redesigned+Coverkhajiits - Male+Coverkhajiits - Female+FAR - Forgotten Argonian Roots+Superior Lore-Friendly Hair - HD textures+Better Vanilla Hairs - Mesh Replacements+ApachiiSkyHair NATURAL retexture - UPDATE+ApachiiSkyHair natural Retexture+Smooth Male Body - textures for Better Males - Better Males+Better males - Beautiful nudes and faces - New hairstyles+SG Female Textures Renewal+UNP BLESSED BODY- UNPB REDUX PROJECT+DIMONIZED UNP female body+Realistic Water Two+Royal Bloodline - Vampire Lord perk tree - abilities - and more+Acquisitive Soul Gems+YY Anim Replacer - Zweihander+YY Anim Replacer - Mystic Knight+Immersive Animations+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS+The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod+Improved sneak detection+MfgConsole+ShowRaceMenu Alternative+Deadly Spell Impacts+Burn Freeze Shock Effects+Dragon Real Shout+Apocalypse Spell Package+Predator Vision - Vampire Werewolf and Khajiit+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim - Sounds of Skyrim Patch+Realistic Lighting Overhaul+Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization+Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds+Sounds of Skyrim - The Dungeons+Unique Grasses and Groundcovers - Nature and Landscape Enhancement+Riften - Thief Edition+Helgen Reborn+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade - aMB Patch+aMidianBorn wolf armor and skyforge weapons+Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim - Enhanced Blood Textures Patch+Enhanced Blood Textures+Convenient Horses+Immersive First Person View+Player Headtracking+Guard Dialogue Overhaul+Disable Fast Travel Permanently+Nightingale Prime HD+Mystic Tuning Gloves HD+Masque of Clavicus Vile UHD+Jewels of the Nord - HD rings and necklaces+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Uniques+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors+Civil War Overhaul+Book Covers Skyrim+Achieve That+Undeath+Royal Bloodline - Throne Room+The Paarthurnax Dilemma+Silverfish Grotto+Riverside Lodge with Sauna+Radiance+Pumping Iron - Dynamic Muscle Growth+Netch Fetcher Convoy+The Lost Wonders of Mzark+Moonpath to Elsweyr+Jaggarsfeld+The Shadow of Meresis+Grey Ledge Manor - No Load Doors+Reko Hobbit Hole+Dusks Cabin+Dragon Falls Manor+Anoriths Shack+Alchemists Hidden Valley+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim - SkyRe Patches+Unique Uniques+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade - WIC Patch+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade - Cloaks Patch+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade+T3nd0s Skyrim Redone - Morrowloot Plugin+Morrowloot4-T3nd0s Skyrim Redone - Frostfall Plugin+T3nd0s Skyrim Redone+Necromancy - Undead FX+Bandolier - Bags and Pouches+West Wind Combat Series - Misfit Mage UNP+Black Rose - UNPB TBBP+4k Stormcloak Armor - Fix+4k Stormcloak Armor+SC - Noble Dresses+Mage Backpack by Tumbajamba+Lore Weapon Expansion+Telescope+Emperors Will+Eldrids Armor Mashup UNP+Daedric Dawnbreaker+Custom Sigils - Cloakls - Clan Stiv+Custom Sigils - Cloaks+Custom Sigils - Shields - Clan Stiv+Custom Sigils - Shields+Winter Is Coming - Cloaks+Northborn Scars+Cloaks of Skyrim+True Bound Daedric Armors+Take Notes - Journal of the Dragonborn+Less Intrusive HUD II+Immersive HUD - iHUD+SkyUI+AutoSave Manager+Player Size Adjuster and First Person Camera Height Fix+CharGen Extension - Morphs+CharGen Extension+RaceMenu+Footprints - Ash+Footprints+DYNAVISION - Dynamic Depth of Field+Wet and Cold - Ashes+Wet and Cold+Unleveled Skyrim Items+TESG Loading Screens+Skyrim Flora Overhaul+Shooting Stars+Sabre Gear Backpack+Point The Way+Hunterborn+Sexy Windhelm+SkyFix - Unique Inn Signs HD+A Quality World Map+Starry Sky+Silverware HD+Sexy Solitude+Visible Windows+Skyrim Ultra HD Texture Pack+Quality Snow HD 4K+Real Ice+Jeclredured Enchanter Workbench Table II+Jeclredured Alchemy Lab+Jeclredured - Spell Tomes II+HiRes Legible Road Signs+Glorious Stalhrim Retex+Glorious Daedric Retexture+Gems of Skyrim+Dawnguard Parallax+Vandr Presents - HD Imperial Tower+Vandr Presents - HD Falmer Pod+Vandr Presents - HD Spider Nest+Woven Decoratives UHD+Virtus Imperii - Imperial Gear Re-mastered+aMidianBorn Solstheim Landscape+aMidianBorn Whiterun+aMidianBorn Farmhouse+Silly Level of Detail - Ceramic Poisons+Silly Level of Detail - Ceramic Potions+Silly Level of Detail - Wine Cellar+Immersive Soulgems+Ultimate HD Fire Effects -Ultra Version-+Full Pack - All Magic Runes HD+EotW Mage Equipment Overhaul - Long Mage Robes+EotW Mage Equipment Overhaul - College Mage Robes+Dovahkinder Collection Replacer+Display Cases and Plaques UHD - Padded Plaques+Display Cases and Plaques UHD - Elegant Cases+Detailed Rugs+Better Shaped Weapons - BSW+Better Circlets HQ V1o1+HD Sacks Retexture+HD Ore And Ingots+HD Misc+HD Detailed Terrain - Main File+Hectrol CAVES DELUXE HighRes Retex 4K+Vivid Landscapes - All in One+Skill Interface Re-Texture+Distant Decal Fix+Episode Parallax+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures - Towns+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures - Riften+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures - Miscellaneous+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures - Landscape+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures - Dungeons+No Stretching+BorderSense+Books Books Books+Auto Unequip Helmet+Auto Unequip Ammo+A Matter of Time+83Willows 101BugsHD Butterfly Dragonfly Luna-Moth Torchbug+Static Mesh Improvement Mod+Ruins Clutter Improved+Cutting Room Floor+Touring Carriages+Immersive Skyrim Thunder V6+Immersive Sounds - Weaponry+Immersive Sounds - Magic+Immersive Sounds - Aural Assortment+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim - Legendary Patch+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim+Splash of Rain+Better Dynamic Snow+Unofficial High Resolution Patch+Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One+The Art of Magicka+Ponytail Hairstyles+ApachiiSkyHair+Wyrmstooth+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch+Unofficial Skyrim Patch Full BOSS log Recognized Skyrim.esm Active Update.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}} Dawnguard.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}} HearthFires.esm Active Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active Dragonborn.esm Active Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Stats}} Wyrmstooth.esp Active ApachiiHair.esm Active AzarHair.esm Active AOM.esm Active Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active moonpath.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. MTAutoStorage.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. SPIKE.esm Active XFLMain.esm ActiveNote: For safe mod uninstall see special uninstallation instructions on mod page. HighResTexturePack01.esp Active HighResTexturePack02.esp Active HighResTexturePack03.esp Active Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active Opeth_Weather.esp SplashofRain.esp Active AOS.esp ActiveNote: See also AOS compatibility patches page on Nexus. AOS_DGDB Patch.esp Active Immersive Sounds - Aural Assortment.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Immersive Sounds - Magic.esp Active Immersive Sounds - Weaponry.esp Active randomthunder.esp Active Opeth_torch.esp kennyloggins.esp TouringCarriages.esp Active Cutting Room Floor.esp Active StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp Active 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} AMatterOfTime.esp Active AOM.esp Active Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active Auto Unequip Helmet.esp Active BooksBooksBooks.esp Active BorderSense.esp Active EpisodeParallax.esp Active HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp Active Hunterborn.esp Active Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp Active Point The Way.esp Active SabreFurBag.esp Active ShootingStars.esp Active Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active TESGLoadingScreens.esp Active Unleveled_Skyrim_Items.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} WetandCold.esp Active WetandCold - Ashes.esp Active DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp ActiveNote: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1. Footprints.esp Active Footprints - Ash.esp Active RaceMenu.esp Active RaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author. Player Size Adjuster.esp Active vAutosaveManager.esp Active SkyUI.esp Active iHUD.esp Active LessIntrusiveHUD.esp Active TakeNotes.esp Active BoundArmors.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 5 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Cloaks.esp ActiveWarning: Use only one cloaks*esp. Cloaks - No Imperial.esp ActiveWarning: Use only one cloaks*esp. Cloaks - Player Only.esp ActiveWarning: Use only one cloaks*esp. 1nivWICCloaks.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp. Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim, get the compatibility patch in the WIC optional files. 1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp ActiveWarning: Use only one WICCloaks esp. 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp. 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active customSigils.esp Active customSigilsCloak.esp Active Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp Active EC Clothes.esp Active impgen.esp Active KWTelescope.esp Active Lore Weapon Expansion.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} MageBackpack_byTumbajamba.esp Active SC_NobleDresses.esp ActiveRequires: Standalone Noble Wedding Dress Strap.esp Active WestWindMisfit.esp Active Dr_Bandolier.esp Active Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp Active Reanimate FX.esp Active SkyRe_Main.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}Requires: Skyrim -Community- Uncapper for full perk functionality. Note: If lockpicking is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'. Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod. Note: To make aiming easier add the following lines to Skyrim.ini: Note: [Actor] Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000 Note: [Combat] Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64 Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64 Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0 Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0 SkyRe_Combat.esp Active SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Active Morrowloot.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Note: It is recommended to load morrowloot after any plugins that have a Relev tag which change the same leveled lists as morrowloot because they will re-add vanilla records removed by morrowloot. SkyRe_Plugin_Morrowloot.esp ActiveNote: Remember to install the original mod before activating a patch or skyrim will crash when it can't find the supporting files. Unique Uniques.esp Active AOS_SkyRe Patch.esp Active AOS_SkyRe-AFTER Patch.esp Active AlchemistsHiddenValley.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 10 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. AnorithsShack.esp Active betterinns.espWarning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here. Dragon Falls Manor.esp Active DusksCabin.esp Active tos_granitehall.espContains dirty edits: 10 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. aGreyLedgeManorLITE.esp Active Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Jaggarsfeld.esp Active moonpath_questdata.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. MzarkWonders.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 23 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Netch Fetcher Convoy.esp Active quest_pitfighter.esp quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp PumpingIron.esp Active quest_sorcery.esp Radiance.esp Active RiversideLodge.esp Active silverfish.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 103 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Active throneroom.esp Active Undeath.esp Active AchieveThat.esp Active Book Covers Skyrim.esp Active Book Covers Dawnguard.esp Active Book Covers Hearthfire.esp Active Book Covers Dragonborn.esp Active Civil War Overhaul.esp Active Differently Ebony.esp Active Disable Fast Travel Permanently - Carriages cost 10x more.esp Active Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function. Headtracking.esp Active ImmersiveFP.esp Active SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp ActiveNote: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Convenient Horses.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function. dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActiveRequires: 0 Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch \ Dawnguard + Dragonborn. AOS_EBT Patch.esp Active Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp Active aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Active Helgen Reborn.esp Active RiftenThiefEdition.esp Active Unique Grasses.esp Active SoS - The Dungeons.esp ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. SoS - The Wilds.esp ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.Contains dirty edits: 8 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. SoS - Civilization.esp ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp ActiveWarning: Due to conflicts between Sounds of Skyrim - Dungeons and Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp it is recommended you use the appropriate compatibility patch found here. Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp Active Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Active Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp ActiveWarning: Due to conflicts between Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp it is recommended you use the appropriate compatibility patch found here.Warning: Due to conflicts between Sounds of Skyrim - Dungeons and Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp it is recommended you use the appropriate compatibility patch found here. Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp ActiveWarning: Due to conflicts between Sounds of Skyrim - Civilizaiton and Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp it is recommended you use the appropriate compatibility patch found here. AOS_SoS-Wilds Patch.esp Active AOS_SoS-Civ Patch.esp Active RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp Active RND_USKP-Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} Predator Vision.esp Active Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 11 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. bearmusicianeng.esp DragonRealShout.esp Active BFSEffects.esp Active DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp Active ImprovedSneakDetection.esp Active The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp Active Vampirelordroyal.esp Active Beards.esp Active Brows.esp Active TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Active The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp Active BHWarPaints.esp Active ksKhajiitWarpaints.esp Active Inigo.esp Active XFLDialogue.esp Active XFLPlugins.esp Active Realistic Teeth Dawnguard Serana Vampire Fix.esp Active CerwidenCompanion.esp Active moveitLWT.esp Active Random Alternate Start.esp Active RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp Active CharGen Morphs.esp Active SkyRe_Races.esp Active ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp ActiveIncompatible with: SkyRe Races. A compatibility patch is available here.Contains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. ImpWeapEnchFX.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp Active AOS_RWT Patch.esp Active DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp Active AOS_WetandCold Patch.esp Active Unique Region Names.esp Active Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active ReProccer.esp Active UnrecognizedEquipping Overhaul.esp Active NB-Scars.esp Active HilltopHouse.esp Active RekoHobbit.esp Active aMidianborn_Book of Silence_CCO.esp Active Vivid Landscapes.esp Active (I experience these same problems without the unrecognized plugins installed) skyrim.ini (I have the same problem with default inis (and different ENB even) so that's probably not the problem, but just to be sure) [General]sLanguage=ENGLISHiNumHWThreads=4iHWThread6=3iHWThread5=3iHWThread4=3iHWThread3=2iHWThread2=2iHWThread1=2iAIThread2HWThread=3iAIThread1HWThread=2iRenderingThread2HWThread=1iRenderingThread1HWThread=0iLargeIntRefCount=262144uGridsToLoad=5uExterior Cell Buffer=64fMasterFilePreLoadMB=100.0000iPreloadSizeLimit=262144000sIntroSequence=DISABLED.BIKbRunHighLevelProcess=1bMultiThreadMovement=1bUseThreadedParticleSystem=1bUseThreadedBlood=1bUseThreadedMorpher=1bUseThreadedTempEffects=1bUseThreadedTextures=1bUseThreadedMeshes=1bUseThreadedLOD=1bUseThreadedAI=1bUseHardDriveCache=0fFlickeringLightDistance=8192bUseEyeEnvMapping=1bFaceMipMaps=1 [backgroundLoad]bUseBackgroundFileLoader=1bUseMultiThreadedFaceGen=1bBackgroundCellLoads=1bUseMultiThreadedTrees=1bUseBackgroundFileLoader=1bBackgroundLoadLipFiles=1 [Display]fDefaultWorldFOV=75fDefault1stPersonFOV=75fSunShadowUpdateTime=1.000fSunUpdateThreshold=0.500fShadowLODMaxStartFade=2000.0fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=1000.0fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=4096bShadowsOnGrass=1bPerPixelLighting=1bAllowScreenshot=0bSimpleLighting=0fDecalLifetime=256.5000iAdapter=0iPresentInterval=0 [Audio]fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0 [Grass]bAllowCreateGrass=1bAllowLoadGrass=0bGrassPointLighting=1b30GrassVS=1iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=7iMinGrassSize=30 [GeneralWarnings]SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Archive]sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsasResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa [Combat]fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7 [Actor]fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=14000.0000 [Papyrus]fUpdateBudgetMS=800fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500iMinMemoryPageSize=256iMaxMemoryPageSize=8192iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=2457600bEnableLogging=1bEnableTrace=1bLoadDebugInformation=1 [Water]iWaterReflectHeight=1024iWaterReflectWidth=1024bUseWaterDisplacements=1bUseWaterRefractions=1bUseWaterReflections=1bUseWaterDepth=1bUseWaterReflectionBlur=1bReflectExplosions=1iWaterBlurAmount=4bAutoWaterSilhouetteReflections=1bForceHighDetailReflections=0bUseWaterHiRes=1bUseWaterLOD=1bReflectLODObjects=1bReflectLODLand=1bReflectSky=1bReflectLODTrees=1bUseWaterShader=1 [Trees]bForceFullDetail=1bEnableTreeAnimations=1 [TerrainManager]bKeepLowDetailTerrain=0 [Controls]bMouseAcceleration=0 [HAVOK]iNumThreads=4 [saveGame]bAllowProfileTransfer=1bUseSaveGameHistory=1 [Decals]bDecalMultithreaded=1bForceAllDecals=1 [imagespace]bDoRadialBlur=1 [LightingShader]fDecalLODFadeEnd=1.0000fDecalLODFadeStart=1.0000 [Animation]fAnimInterpFarDist=10500.0000fAnimInterpNearDist=10000.0000 [interface]fBookOpenTime=700.0000 [MapMenu]sMapCloudNIF=0bWorldMapNoSkyDepthBlur=1fWorldMapNearDepthBlurScale=0fWorldMapDepthBlurScale=0fWorldMapMaximumDepthBlur=0fMapWorldYawRange=3600.0000fMapWorldMaxHeight=130000.0000fMapWorldMinHeight=5000.0000 skyrimprefs.ini[General]fBrightLightColorB=1.0000fBrightLightColorG=1.0000fBrightLightColorR=1.0000iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0fDefaultFOV=75[imagespace]bDoDepthOfField=1iRadialBlurLevel=2[Display]fSunShadowUpdateTime=1.000fSunUpdateThreshold=0.500iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3fInteriorShadowDistance=3500.0000fShadowDistance=6000.0000iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=2048iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=4096iShadowSplitCount=4iMaxAnisotropy=1fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=6000.0000fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=4600.0000fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=10000000.0000bAllow30HairShader=1iTexMipMapMinimum=4iTexMipMapSkip=0bFaceMipMaps=1bFaceGenTexturing=1bFaceGenTexturingQuality=4096iShadowMapResolutionInt=4096bDynamicWindowReflections=1fGamma=1.0000iShadowFilter=4fDecalLOD2=1500.0000fDecalLOD1=1000.0000iActorShadowCountInt=12iActorShadowCountExt=20iActorSelfShadow=1iActorSelfShadowResolution=4096fSpecularLODStartFade=2000.0000fShadowLODStartFade=3000.0000fLightLODStartFade=3500.0000bTransparencyMultisampling=0iWaterMultiSamples=4iMultiSample=0iShadowMode=3bTreesReceiveShadows=1bDrawLandShadows=1bDrawShadows=1bShadowsOnGrass=1bFull Screen=1iSize H=1080iSize W=1920fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=999999.0000fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=999999.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=10000000.0000fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10000000.0000bShadowMaskZPrepass=1bMainZPrepass=0iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780"bFXAAEnabled=0iShadowMapResolution=4096fShadowBiasScale=0.1500iShadowMaskQuarter=4bFloatPointRenderTarget=1iScreenShotIndex=0iAdapter=0iPresentInterval=1bDeferredShadows=1[Grass]b30GrassVS=1fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000.0000fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=13000.0000fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=100.0000[MAIN]bGamepadEnable=1bCrosshairEnabled=1fHUDOpacity=1.0000bSaveOnPause=0bSaveOnTravel=1bSaveOnWait=1bSaveOnRest=1fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000[GamePlay]bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=0bShowQuestMarkers=1iDifficulty=5[interface]bDialogueSubtitles=0bGeneralSubtitles=0fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000bShowCompass=1[Controls]fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0140bAlwaysRunByDefault=1bInvertYValues=0bGamePadRumble=1bMouseAcceleration=0bUseKinect=0[Particles]iMaxDesired=750[saveGame]fAutosaveEveryXMins=60.0000[AudioMenu]fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000fVal7=1.0000uID7=2651005106fVal6=1.0000uID6=2651006488fVal5=1.0000uID5=2651005110fVal4=1.0000uID4=3954fVal3=0.6000uID3=94881fVal2=0.6500uID2=466532fVal1=0.8500uID1=554685fVal0=0.5500uID0=1007612[Clouds]fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000[TerrainManager]fTreeLoadDistance=75000.0000fBlockMaximumDistance=250000.0000fBlockLevel1Distance=70000.0000fBlockLevel0Distance=35000.0000fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000bShowLODInEditor=0[NavMesh]fObstacleAlpha=0.5000fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000fEdgeThickness=10.0000fPointSize=2.5000[Trees]bRenderSkinnedTrees=1uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=40bUseMultiThreadedTrees=1bEnableTreeAnimations=1[Decals]uMaxDecals=1000bDecals=1bSkinnedDecals=1uMaxSkinDecals=100uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=60[LOD]fLODFadeOutMultObjects=15.0000fLODFadeOutMultItems=15.0000fLODFadeOutMultActors=15.0000fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000[Launcher]bEnableFileSelection=1bShowAllResolutions=1uLastAspectRatio=3[blurShader]bUseBlurShader=0[blurShaderHDR]bDoHighDynamicRange=1[Water]iWaterReflectHeight=1024iWaterReflectWidth=1024bUseWaterDisplacements=1bUseWaterRefractions=1bUseWaterReflections=1bUseWaterDepth=1 System Specs Intel i7-4770k @4.0 GHzGeForce GTX 780 (3GB VRAM)8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz RAM Major thanks for any help! 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ripple Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) 1) download TES5Edit from the link in the BOSS log, follow the instruction on the same page, and clean all plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits', unless the BOSS log specifically states that the mod's 'dirty edits' does not need to be cleaned. 2) go through the BOSS log carefully, line by line, and look for any error messages, such as Cloaks.esp ActiveWarning: Use only one cloaks*esp. Cloaks - No Imperial.esp ActiveWarning: Use only one cloaks*esp. Cloaks - Player Only.esp ActiveWarning: Use only one cloaks*esp. 1nivWICCloaks.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp. Incompatible with: Cloaks of skyrim, get the compatibility patch in the WIC optional files. 1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp ActiveWarning: Use only one WICCloaks esp. 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Warning: Use only one WICCloaks esp. As the readme for both mod states, you should use one of the plugins, not all of them. Go through the entirely log and make sure you attend to all of the error messages. 3) Some of your ini settings have 'absurdly high' values, for example: fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=999999.0000 fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=999999.0000 fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=10000000.0000 fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10000000.0000 fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=10000000.0000 The default game ini settings are optimized for 'stability.' Many ini tweak guides floating around the interwebs suggest ini tweaks intended to improve 'performance' or address trivial graphic glitches like 'distant LOD pop-ins', but do so at the expense of 'stability.' I recommend you delete your existing ini files, and let the game generate new ones, so the ini settings will revert back to default game values. You can re-add ini non-performance or graphics related ini settings like disabling the intro video, but do not add anything else, including messing with Papyrus memory allocation. Also, when not bug tracking or troubleshooting, Papyrus logging should be disabled. Edited January 18, 2014 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToBlackk Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) I've tried deactivating some of the cloaks plugins (even uninstalling the mods altogether) with no effect on the crashes. Although the values for fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance and fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance are indeed increased, the other ones are in fact (I believe, based on looking at backups) the defaults for ultra settings. Either way, I just tried with new inis to no avail. I had been too afraid to clean any plugins aside from the vanilla masters, but I'll try that out and see if that helps. Anyway, thanks for all the help, really appreciate it :smile: EDIT: Just did a full reset on my inis, and the problem may be fixed (only playtested for ~5 min, so still have to confirm). I had been testing from a couple backups I made a while ago, but I might have made changes before then. If it really is fixed, I can't thank you enough. Edited January 18, 2014 by FadeToBlackk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToBlackk Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Update:After playing for ~2 hours with a new ini (i re-added a few tweaks) and experiencing only one crash - which was in a city so different issue - I'm convinced the problem is fixed. Not only is the game stable now, but I realize that the custom ini was messing up my ENB lighting, as the game looks WAY better now. Again, thank you so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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