theoldfashioned Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Someone please help me with my mods and load order, I'm trying to launch Skyrim for more than a WEEK installing and reinstalling dozens of times, I tried everything, nothing works, it just crashes all the time. When I install a new game, I manage to play once or twice for 1 hour + and then it crashes, when I'm trying to launch it crashes on bethesda logo, then I restart my laptop and launch it again and it crashes after 1 or 3 minutes of the game, please help me I don't know what to do, I deleted the game a year ago because I've had the exact same problem, it just started crashing out of the blue and I don't know why. Now I want to go back but I can't play. It repeats no matter what, after I delete and reinstall it again and again, nothing works. I have about 30 mods in total, I don't understand how people play with 300+ mods and the game works perfectly well. I'm not tech savvy and all mod installing guides are very hard, everyone seems to speak some kind of language and understand things that I don't like it's a no-brainer. Please someone help me, I can find an answer nowhere and even understand what's the problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aufisch Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 In order for Skyrim to run properly with mods. The following has to be true: A) all mods need to have their requirements (required mods, or required versions of Skyrim) fulfilled, and B) the mods have to be sorted in a way that they don't interfere with each other. I recommend the below file for a start: LOOT: https://github.com/loot/loot/releases/tag/0.22.3 this little program will not only tell you if one or more mods is missing a requirement, it will also sort your mods in a reasonable way and warn you if mods aren't compatible with each other. If we are to help you more, we would need to know which mods you have installed, and what their current load-order is. If you Google "Beginner's Guide Skyrim SE modding" you will get You-Tube Videos and other guides that will explain everything in detail. It takes a bit of time to get everything working, but you will find it is very much worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldfashioned Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, aufisch said: In order for Skyrim to run properly with mods. The following has to be true: A) all mods need to have their requirements (required mods, or required versions of Skyrim) fulfilled, and B) the mods have to be sorted in a way that they don't interfere with each other. I recommend the below file for a start: LOOT: https://github.com/loot/loot/releases/tag/0.22.3 this little program will not only tell you if one or more mods is missing a requirement, it will also sort your mods in a reasonable way and warn you if mods aren't compatible with each other. If we are to help you more, we would need to know which mods you have installed, and what their current load-order is. If you Google "Beginner's Guide Skyrim SE modding" you will get You-Tube Videos and other guides that will explain everything in detail. It takes a bit of time to get everything working, but you will find it is very much worth it. Thanks for your answer! I googled and tried everything, watched the YouTube tutorials step by step installing everything, with a different mod organizer MO2 instead of Vortex and it didn't help the game crashes, I cleaned the mods with xEdit, before launching the game from Vortex I always reorganize with LOOT, I reinstalled the game and the mods dozens of times literally, it isn't working. Just reinstalled the game again literally 10 minutes ago and skse and everything else needed, and it crashed after less than a minute. Here is my load order: AcousticTemplateFixes.esp AcousticTemplateFixes_CC_Farming.esp AcousticTemplateFixes_CC_Seducers.esp AcousticTemplateFixes_ReverbInteriorSounds.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp Better Dynamic Ash.esp BetterDynamicAsh-DisableRefs.esm Campfire.esm Better Dynamic Snow SE - DisableRefs.esm Better Dynamic Snow SE.esp Cathedral - Water.esp Immersive Followers.esp Cathedral Weathers.esp Friendlier Taverns.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl FollowerWander2.esp Grey_Quarter_Overhaul.esp HMB TCC.esp HPP - Vaermina's Torpor.esp Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp JK's Arcadia's Cauldron.esp Immersive Encounters.esp 3DNPC.esp JK's Blue Palace.esp JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp JK's Candlehearth Hall.esp JK's Dawnstar.esp JK's Bits and Pieces.esp JKs Dragon Bridge.esp JK's Dragonsreach.esp JK's Falkreath.esp JK's Ivarstead.esp JKs Markarth.esp JK's Morthal.esp JK's Radiant Raiment.esp JK's Sadris Used Wares.esp JKs Riften.esp JK's Rorikstead.esp JK's SkyHaven Forge.esp JKs_Skyrim_No_Lights_Patch.esp JKs Skyrim.esp JK's Riverwood.esp JK's Sleeping Giant Inn.esp JKs The Drunken Huntsman.esp JK's Warmaiden's.esp JKs Solitude.esp JK's White Phial.esp JK's Winterhold.esp JKs Whiterun.esp JKs Skaal Village.esp JK's Angelines Aromatics.esp JKs Angelines Aromatics - AI Overhaul Patch.esp JKs Angelines Aromatics - USSEP Patch.esp JKs Arcadias Cauldron - AI Overhaul Patch.esp JKs Arcadias Cauldron - Bow of Shadows Patch.esp JKs Arcadias Cauldron - USSEP Patch.esp JKs Belethors General Goods - AI Overhaul Patch.esp JKs Belethors General Goods - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Bits and Pieces - AI Overhaul Patch.esp JKs Bits and Pieces - USSEP Patch.esp JKs Blue Palace - 3DNPC Patch.esp JKs Blue Palace - AI Overhaul Patch.esp JKs Blue Palace - Immersion Patch.esp JKs Blue Palace - JKs Skyrim Patch.esp JKs Candlehearth Hall - 3DNPC Patch.esp JKs Candlehearth Hall - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Dragonsreach - AI Overhaul.esp JKs Dragonsreach - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Dragonsreach - Populated Cities and Towns Patch.esp JKs Drunken Huntsman - Civil War Champions Patch.esp JKs Drunken Huntsman - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Drunken Huntsman - USSEP Patch.esp JKs Radiant Raiment - 3DNPC Patch.esp JKs Radiant Raiment - Immersion Patch.esp JKs Radiant Raiment - USSEP Patch.esp JKs Sadris Used Wares - 3DNPC Patch.esp JKs Sleeping Giant Inn - 3DNPC Patch.esp JKs Sleeping Giant Inn - AI Overhaul SSE Patch.esp JKs Sleeping Giant Inn - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Sleeping Giant Inn - Populated Cities and Towns Patch.esp JKs Warmaidens - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - 3DNPC Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - AI Overhaul Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - Chair CR Patch no SFCO.esp JKs Winking Skeever - Fishing Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - Immersion Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - Immersive Citizens patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - USSEP Patch.esp JK's The Winking Skeever.esp Cathedral Landscapes.esp Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp No NPC Greetings.esp Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp Populated Cities Towns Villages Reborn.esp Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins Reborn.esp Populated Forts Towers Places Reborn.esp Populated Lands Roads Paths Reborn.esp Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells Reborn.esp Populated Solstheim.esp Project Clarity AIO Half Res Packed.esp Project Clarity AIO Half Res Packed0.esp Project Clarity AIO Half Res Packed1.esp Project Clarity AIO Half Res Packed2.esp Project Clarity AIO Half Res Packed3.esp Project Clarity AIO Half Res Packed4.esp Project Clarity AIO Half Res Packed5.esp Project Clarity AIO Half Res Packed6.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp Realistic-Voice.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Serana Dialogue Edit.esp SnowOverSkyrim.esp Simplicity of Snow.esp jks skyrim tree fix.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp SkyrimIsWindy.esp Skyrim Sizes.esp TOTS - Icy Waterways.esp Turn of the Seasons.esp TES5SE NPCs Travel.esp Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp WetandCold.esp SkyUI_SE.esp AI Overhaul.esp Reverb Interior Sounds Expansion.esp Reverb Interior Sounds Expansion_VolumeSlider_Rain.esp Reverb Interior Sounds Expansion_VolumeSlider_Thunder.esp ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl ccbgssse003-zombies.esl ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl ccbgssse005-goldbrand.esl ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm cceejsse001-hstead.esm ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl cceejsse002-tower.esl ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl ccvsvsse002-pets.esl ccbgssse034-mntuni.esl ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl ccbgssse008-wraithguard.esl ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esl ccffbsse001-imperialdragon.esl ccmtysse002-ve.esl ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl ccvsvsse001-winter.esl cceejsse003-hollow.esl ccbgssse016-umbra.esm ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm ccbgssse038-bowofshadows.esl ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl ccbgssse050-ba_daedric.esl ccbgssse052-ba_iron.esl ccbgssse054-ba_orcish.esl ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl ccbgssse059-ba_dragonplate.esl ccbgssse061-ba_dwarven.esl ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl ccbgssse056-ba_silver.esl ccbgssse055-ba_orcishscaled.esl ccbgssse053-ba_leather.esl ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl ccbgssse066-staves.esl ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm ccbgssse068-bloodfall.esl ccbgssse069-contest.esl ccvsvsse003-necroarts.esl ccvsvsse004-beafarmer.esl ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl ccrmssse001-necrohouse.esl ccedhsse003-redguard.esl cceejsse004-hall.esl cceejsse005-cave.esm cckrtsse001_altar.esl cccbhsse001-gaunt.esl ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm Edited February 18 by theoldfashioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldfashioned Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 Just cleaned about 20 mods with xEdit because it said it in LOOT that I needed to clean certain mods, I did it 100% correctly because I followed a tutorial religiously, also did it yesterday, so I cleaned them and then ran LOOT and launched the game, it wasn't launching it crashed on the menu, I restarted my laptop then it launched and I was able to play for about 40 min to 1 hour and then the game crashed again and now I can't launch it because it crashes on the menu. I don't understand, it's the same problem over and over again and it comes back to this. Not launching - I reinstall from zero deleting all the mods and installing them again, then it doesn't launch crashes on menu, I restart the pc, it launches, I play for 30-60 minutes and it crashes and then it's not launching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7531Leonidas Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Are you back to using Vortex now, or are you still on MO2? If the former, try NOT using LOOT after Vortex, which has a built-in version of LOOT. You may be undoing what you have just done. If you want to double-check your LO, just run the 'Deploy Mods' found on the Menu Bar of the Mods page. AFAIK, the standalone LOOT has no access to the choices you make re: mod conflicts in Vortex. I did (some years ago) what you are now doing, and it only messed stuff up. Make sure that you have the 'Deploy Mods when Enabled', and you should be ok. I do not use the 'Install Mods when downloaded', as I often d/l stuff for future use. There is also a 'Autosort Enabled' choice on the menu bar when you are on the 'Plugins' page. Make sure to have the 'Autosort Enabled', and if you mess around with the dependencies on the plugins page, make sure you click the 'Sort Now' button at the top. I don't think that it could hurt to run it anytime you are uncertain, can just take awhile, depending on your LO size. BTW, I didn't see any Unofficial patches for the CC stuff, which can have its own troubles. Check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aufisch Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I have to admit, that I don't use Vortex, so please follow 7531Leonidas' suggestion concerning LOOT and Vortex. Your load-order right now seems to be just alphabetically sorted which is certainly wrong. Usually the creation-club items should load high up right after the vanilla game-files and the Unofficial Patch should be high up as well. When using LOOT with ModOrganizer2, make sure to setup LOOT to run from within ModOrganizer (in MO2 add a shortcut to your LOOT install). When using Vortex use the inbuilt LOOT version as described by 7531Leonidas. Also: Seasons of Skyrim is a fantastic mod, but I would not recommend it for a beginner, as it involves the installation and correct configuration of various mods and textures plus the correct creation of LOD with DynDOLOD. I recommend to start with a more beginner-friendly setup by removing Seasons of Skyrim and Turn of Seasons and TOTS - Icy Waterways.esp for the time being. Later on if you game is stable you can always go back and try to install Seasons of Skyrim (read and follow the instructions on that mod's page very carefully). Additionally Immersive Citizens and Immersive Encounters might need patches. Did you get any suggestions about missing patches in LOOT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sattyre Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I had two initial reactions on reading your post. It sounds like an ini file issue. Sometimes the game ini files aren't updated properly by mods and/or are overtweaked and need to be setup. Try using Bethini (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4875) to set up your ini files and then run the game. The other thing that it made me think, is that you have a master file that either isn't being used or isn't part of your load order or is just out of sequence, but LOOT should have told you about that issue. Hope it helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hietanen Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Please install a crash logger and generate a crash log. You may have incompatible dlls that cause these issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldfashioned Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 Thank you so much everyone for your answers! So far I deleted Season of Skyrim and Turn of The Seasons, installed patches for Immersive CItizens and JKs Skyrim and AI Overhaul like it said in LOOT and cleaned the files with xEdit so it looked totally perfect in LOOT except it said to install compatibility patches on those same mods as if I didn't install them. Restarted, sorted again, same thing. Also the load order doesn't seem to change, like it isn't working as if the program isn't doing it. I have the last version of everything, LOOT, SKSE, all mods, triple checked all of this. I sorted the load order in Vortex with autosort enabled, with "Sort Now" button, and it didn't do anything the load order is still the same and I did it multiple times and restarted Vortex, restarted the PC, it didn't help, everything is in the same alphabetical order. Went to sort it in LOOT and it didn't sort anything, the load order remained the same as before, alphabetical order, repeated multiple times, same thing. Also, I've noticed that Vortex somehow automatically turns off all the plugins. Like each time before I launch the game I need to go to Plugins and enable all of them as they are disabled by default, and when the game crashes and I go to Plugins they're disabled. Then the game crashes on the menu, and then if I restart the PC I manage to load the save and play for 1-3 minutes and it crashes and not launches again, only if restart the PC it launches but repeats the same pattern -- crashing after 1-3 minutes in game. I also have bethini installed from the beginning, did it following a YouTube guide after this last install. Will generate a crash log and send it here soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sattyre Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 The fact that LOOT isn't sorting your load order indicates an issue. I've had it happen in the past and it always means that something is wrong. Clearly this isn't new information for you, but, I would suggest uninstalling all your mods and starting over. First make sure the game runs without any mods. Then install a few mods, LOOT them, and see what happens. If everything is still ok, then try a few more. Wash, rinse, repeat. Hopefully that will allow you to figure out your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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