SloveniMack Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Something makes the collisions and textures of the White Phial in Windhelm disappear. Here's my mod list. Tried deactivating "Vanilla Complex Parallax-Windhelm", "Nordic Snow", and "Terrain Parallax Blending Fix"; no dice. # Automatically generated by Vortex Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl ccbgssse003-zombies.esl ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl ccbgssse005-goldbrand.esl ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm cceejsse001-hstead.esm ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl cceejsse002-tower.esl ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl ccvsvsse002-pets.esl ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl ccbgssse034-mntuni.esl ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl ccbgssse008-wraithguard.esl ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esl ccffbsse001-imperialdragon.esl ccmtysse002-ve.esl ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl ccvsvsse001-winter.esl cceejsse003-hollow.esl ccbgssse016-umbra.esm ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm ccbgssse038-bowofshadows.esl ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl ccbgssse050-ba_daedric.esl ccbgssse052-ba_iron.esl ccbgssse054-ba_orcish.esl ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl ccbgssse059-ba_dragonplate.esl ccbgssse061-ba_dwarven.esl ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl ccbgssse056-ba_silver.esl ccbgssse055-ba_orcishscaled.esl ccbgssse053-ba_leather.esl ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl ccbgssse066-staves.esl ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm ccbgssse068-bloodfall.esl ccbgssse069-contest.esl ccvsvsse003-necroarts.esl ccvsvsse004-beafarmer.esl ccbgssse025-advdsgs.esm ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl ccrmssse001-necrohouse.esl ccedhsse003-redguard.esl cceejsse004-hall.esl cceejsse005-cave.esm cckrtsse001_altar.esl cccbhsse001-gaunt.esl ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm _ResourcePack.esl Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp unofficial skyrim creation club content patch.esl OCF.esp MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm AnimatedShips.esl Better Dynamic Snow SE - DisableRefs.esm wraithguardvaultfixer.esp myrwatchhomefixer.esp Environs Master Plugin.esp SkyUI_SE.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Better Dynamic Snow SE.esp Laundry.esp s6o6t Lore - Oblivion Gates.esp JK's Skyrim - Lightened.esp ASS_IconsAddon.esp PENIS_IconsAddon.esp BOOBIES_ImmersiveIcons.esp Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp AI Overhaul.esp Diversity - A Character Overhaul.esp Environs - Abandoned Abodes.esp Man Those Borders!.esp golden egg treasure hunt.esp Better Skyrim Parties.esp MajesticMountains.esp The Blackest Reaches.esp Creation Club Integration - Anniversary Edition.esp ogCannibalDraugr.esp ArteFake.esp Book Covers Skyrim Updated.esp Better Skill and Quest Books Names SE.esp TheChoiceIsYours.esp Environs - Kolskeggr.esp Cultured Orc Furniture.esp Unique Border Gates - Fixes.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp inigo.esp mihailcczombies.esp sm_dragonbornpartofskyrimstaves.esp Infiltration - Quest Expansion.esp Ryn's Azura's Shrine.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp The Heart Of Dibella - Quest Expansion.esp AdditionalHearthfireDolls.esp Headhunter - Bounties Redone.esp TreasureMapsJournal.esp The White Phial - Tweaks and Enhancements.esp sm_dawnguard_staffscrolls.esp ReadTheRoom.esp Environs - Greenwood Shack.esp Environs - Whiterun Watchtower.esp PaarthurnaxQuestExpansion.esp College Of Winterhold - Quest Expansion.esp mihailhousecat.esp mihailhawkandtern.esp Man Those Borders! [PATCH - USSEP].esp mihailringneckedpheasant.esp KyneConsequences.esp East Eampire Shipping.esp Nilheim_MiscQuestExpansion.esp mihailancientfrostatronach.esp Environs - Hroggars House.esp Environs - Riften Warehouse.esp elaariekhajiitwarehouses.esp The Blackest Reaches - USSEP Patch.esp talkativeflameatronachs.esp mihailtalkativestormatronach.esp man_clavMask.esp sweepingOrganizesStuff.esp DialogueHistory.esp Dynamic Activation Key.esp Take a Nap.esp SimplyKnock.esp Cutting Room Floor - BCSU Patch.esp The Choice is Yours - BCSU Patch.esp Keytrace.esp Dynamic Impact - Slash Effects X.esp Scorching of Skeevers.esp PoisoningExtended.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp Quick Follower Commands.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp GrahlsOnSolstheim.esp Immersive Display Overhaul.esp Stormfang.esp CoMAP - Shrines and Altars.esp eli_inigobloodchillpatch.esp Whispers of Words.esp mihailtalkativespriggan.esp mihailtalkativefalmers.esp mihailtalkativewispmothers.esp More Plantable Plants for Creation Club - Bittercup.esp More Plantable Plants for Creation Club - Rare Curios.esp More Plantable Plants for Creation Club - Saints and Seducers.esp More Plantable Plants for Creation Club - The Cause.esp beltfastenedquivers.esp Injected Animated Armoury - Keywords.esp Realistic AI Detection 3 - Lite.esp NPCs Take Cover.esp SteelBAintImperial.esp The Citadel of Snow - The Windhelm Bridge Reforged.esp WraithguardVaultFix - USCCCP Patch.esp RareCuriosBoltsExpanded.esp Craftable Crossbows CC Updated Immersive.esp CoMAP - Jorrvaskr Marker.esp asya'la the nordic khajiit.esp CoMAP - KhajiitCaravans.esp CoMAP - Orc Stronghold Forts.esp fixLOD.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp KarstaagReborn.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuSE.esp FleshFX.esp Daggerfall-Inspired Sanguine.esp Unique Thane Weapons.esp BA_BardSongs_AIO.esp MCMHelper.esp EVE - Footstep Sounds Restored.esp EVE - Jarls Gilded Wristguards Restored.esp AdditionalHFDollsPassivesPatch.esp Racial Body Morphs.esp EVE - Artifacts - Mace of Molag Bal.esp LinkedCraftingStorage.esp Sleeping Expanded.esp Taunt Your Enemies.esp StaticCollections.esp NPCs_Wear_Amulets_Of_Mara.esp Conditional Expressions.esp HouseOfHorrorsQuestExpansion.esp Additional Dremora Faces.esp Dremora Lines Expansion.esp Press E To Heal Followers.esp MyrwatchStatics.esp Forsworn and Thalmor Lines Expansion.esp Bandit Lines Expansion.esp Civil War Lines Expansion.esp ImmersiveInteractions.esp Immersive Rejections.esp SkyrimsGotTalent-Bards.esp Remote Interactions.esp EVE - Ghostly Instruments Fix.esp TrueTeacherPaarthurnax.esp JS Unique Utopia SE - Rings - Johnskyrim.esp UniqueBarbas.esp PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp sm_GP_CC_AEComplete.esp AdditionalRecipes.esp imp_helm_legend.esp NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp SSE High Quality Music.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Sharpen Other Swords II.esp Use Those Blankets.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7531Leonidas Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 JK's Skyrim - Lightened.esp - Where is this from? I do not see JK's Skyrim in your LO otherwise, maybe you are missing it? Seems like something like that would affect a lot more, though. Have you tried simply verifying your game files (only if you are not using an older/downgraded version of Skyrim), or reinstalling any mod that affects Winterhold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloveniMack Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 Apparently the plugin Lightened.esp was disabled but the mod attached to it, JK's Skyrim AIO-Reduced Cut was on. I'll see if that makes a difference, and if that doesn't work I'll try verifying the files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloveniMack Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 (edited) Don't know what mod I deactivated, but during when it was off, the White Phial was only visible in previous saves (This is after I deactivated the AIO-Reduced Cut and verified the files; those didn't work). Edited May 6 by SloveniMack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronOfMpls Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Glad you got it semi-sorted! And yah, removing mods mid-game can sometimes cause shenanigans like this. Even with a save cleaner, sometimes you just have to go back to an earlier save from before the mod's changes kicked in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloveniMack Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 (edited) Is there a way to make mods list off changes they make? I honestly don't know what could affect the building. I'd use Creation Kit, but it takes way too long to load. SSEEdit doesn't show all of the mods I have enabled, so I can't see any conflicts with the White Phial (WHmarket04 [STAT:0003842C]). Unless there's an issue with something outside of Statics... Edited May 14 by SloveniMack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronOfMpls Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Something like More Informative Console might tell you, especially if you select the building's outside via the prid command (prid 38452) if it's not visible. It can list which esm/esp/esl last modified it. And if it tells you that's not a valid formID, then you know you either typoed the refID, or it got deleted in your save at some point. Example on the White Phial building exterior: Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloveniMack Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 Did it. I assume it isn't deleted since there wasn't an error. I remember the "Ref last changed" field had the Unofficial Skyrim Patch. Don't know how it could make a static disappear. When I selected the static via the command you gave me I used the "enable" command, but that did nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronOfMpls Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) Well it's probably not the Unofficial Patch; that's the last (and likely only) mod touching it in my own SE load order. EDIT: For the Unofficial Patch, I have the current USSEP 4.3.1, on the current Skyrim SE 1.6.1170. If you're using a downgraded SE, make sure you kept a matching older version of the patch, at least if you're playing without the freebie CC addons. EDIT 1a: Never mind, I see you have all the CC's. What mods did you remove before, that used to be active in that save? Maybe one of them moved or changed it. (And indeed, one that changes that part of the city could've moved it. Where do you end up if you try player.moveto 38452?) EDIT #2: Also, same ↑ for the door: Spoiler EDIT #3: Never mind, I see the door in your screenshots, just kinda standing there against nothing. Edited May 16 by AaronOfMpls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloveniMack Posted May 17 Author Share Posted May 17 On 5/15/2024 at 5:39 PM, AaronOfMpls said: What mods did you remove before, that used to be active in that save? Maybe one of them moved or changed it. (And indeed, one that changes that part of the city could've moved it. Where do you end up if you try player.moveto 38452?) I think the mod that changed it was Capital Windhelm Expansion (CRF ver.) and its patch for USSEP. I used the command you posted, and it moved me to the entrance of Windhelm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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