I really wish so badly I had other games to play.

[InDarkestNight]

All the games I own I bought through steam. In hindsight, that was utterly stupid beyond all comprehension. Every game I own, was either a scam, or updated into something unrecognizable, and sometimes even into something I CANNOT PLAY.

Skyrim LE is the only game I have left. All I do is play it and I'm beyond sick of it. I would love to take a break and go play something else, but I cannot, I'm not allowed, all my games were taken from me. I have no choice but to play Skyrim if I play anything at all. I'm also getting sick of playing minesweeper BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY OTHER GAME I HAVE WHAT DOES THAT SAY?

It disgusts me how much money I invested into steam FOR NOTHING. Hundreds of dollars literally at the very least, and what do I have to show for it? Skyrim, nothing else. That vile criminal company stole from me and countless others and they're allowed to get away with it just because DIGITAL PRODUCTS DON'T ACTUALLY EXIST JUST AS AIR DOES NOT EXIST.

I'm sorry, I'm just sick of playing skyrim. I had another playthrough come to an end prematurly, so now I have to start all over again. I'm beyond sick fo playing through the beginning of the game over and over again. Start the same quests again and again, and for what????????

I really wish I could go and play another game for a while, take a break LIKE A REASONABLE PERSON, but I cannot do that. My hands are tied. Either I play Skyrim, minesweeper, or stare at the walls all day, and fight as much as I have, there's not a damned thing I can do about this!

I am so sick of being helpless because of criminal companies that exploit the lack of laws we have over regulation of digital products. They've done far more harm than tiktok has, and that's being banned! Why? Why not ban steam? Why not ban all digital storefronts for the bullshit they've been pulling of years? They deserve it far more than tiktok does. Hell, tiktok looks like absolutely nothing compared to steam.

I'm sorry, I'm just miserable due to no fault of my own. What can I do about this? Do I need to just make my own games? It would be a mammoth effort yes, BUT AT LEAST I WOULD GET SOMETHING OUT OF MY WORK. I'm sick of working my ass off FOR NOTHING. Is this the extreme I have to go to so I can actually get something OUT OF ALL THE HARD WORK I DO??????????????

Its been a long time since I've ever fanboyed any gaming company. Every company I know of, I literally wish it would just die so we could move on to a better future. Gaming is dead. All that's left is a zombie industry that's not actually gaming at all. There are no games anymore. All were replaced by scams. f*#@ the modern world, f*#@ the internet. Guess I'll go back to STARING AT THE WALLS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A SINGLE DAMNED THING I CAN DO WITH MY FREETIME BECAUSE I'VE SPLURGED ALL MY MONEY ON ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WITHOUT KNOWING IT.

[Guest deleted156886133]

I concur with your contempt but you have to mellow out, man. There are some really good FREE open source games out there. Let me be clear: Open Source not pirated. Off the top of my head, there's 0 A.D., a medievel real-time strategy. It's quite impressive for an open source game and it's being constantly developed. It's available on Windows, Linux and that other one. If you like racing games, there's Speed Dreams. It's also cross-platform. A good multi-player online first-person shooter is AssaultCube and it's on the big three plus Android. AssaultCube and Speed Dreams are also moddable, by the way.

If you're on Linux then your free open source game options increase. I used to play OpenTTD, which is an open source port of Transport Tycoon Deluxe. There's also an Android port of OpenTTD but no Windows that I know of. Plus, there's a plethora of other free options from other game genres. 

So, you see... gaming is not dead. Stop paying for corporate games and get on the open source FREE wagon. No ass or grass required. And it's all entirely legal.

[InDarkestNight]

Honestly, I don't even know what I like anymore. I hate grinding, and games where you put in a mammoth amount of effort only to lose everything in the end. This seems to apply to all games I've played. I liked Civilization until I realized how rng it is. I used to play Magic the Gathering 20 years ago, and played Duels of the Planeswalkers for a while but got tired of the crappy decks in it and the rng. I played Sentinels of the Multiverse until I found multiple broken combos that made the game stupid. I used to play Warcraft 3, but got sick of not being able to beat real players because I was too bad. I used to play WoW up to the lich king expansion, but got bored with it. Skyrim gives me everything I wanted out of that game anyway, outside of a larger world anyway. I've been thinking of giving Blood Bowl again even though I've never liked the rng of that game. I liked Terraria, but never liked all the grinding just to get new parts of build stuff with. I've also tried to get into fighting games, but as my choices hint at I've never been good with real-time action games. I also liked playing The Sims 2, in fact I was in the middle of playing it when my old windows 7 machine I had before this finally gave up the ghost.

So, I hate wasting my life grinding, I hate having things blow up in my face, I hate rng, and I've never been good enough to deal with real opponents. I also hate online gaming communities because of how toxic they are. I used to play mobas. Played dota 1 on warcraft 3, played LoL but quit after they shifted its design to no longer be 'dota for noobs', played Smite for a while because of the mythological theme but quit it after it came out that THEY WERE RIGGING THEIR GAMES. Didn't help that they also openly admitted they didn't do a damned thing to moderate their game. Played dota 2 for a bit, but I quit in the middle of my last match because I was getting no enjoyment in it. Thank f*#@ing god I was able to free myself from those vile addicting games.

That said, coincidentally I am on linux (ubunut 22 to be precise). Other than dwarf fortress though, I don't know what's out there. Never really liked dwarf fortress to be honest. Its repetitive, your stupid dwarves keep starving to death because you can't tell them to stuff their f*#@ing faces, and either way there's no way 'win'. And funny thing; ITS ONE OF THE MORE MERCIFUL GAMES I'VE PLAYED. Yes, there's games that are harder to win than dwarf fortress, A GAME THAT LITERALLY HAS NO WIN CONDITION. What does that say? f*#@ factorio to hell. Or creeper world 3 WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE THE FREE VERSIONS I PLAYED FOR YEARS BEFORE THAT CAME OUT.

I did use to use Kongregate, but I quit after they stopped accepting games from people who weren't pig companies. f*#@ them.

[InDarkestNight]

And yes, I've been having anger issues for a while now. I have no way to relax. No way to enjoy my free time. All I do is eat, s#*! and work. I don't listen to music anymore either. Its a long story, but to make it short I went down a rabbit hole on youtube of evil music (including far-right stuff, f*#@ folk metal), and youtube won't let me find anything else. Fml.

[Guest deleted156886133]

I used to play Factorio on Windows while it was still in beta but once it went alpha, Steam got full control and that was also coincidentally after I switched to Linux. Needless to say, it's not free anymore. I miss having an impenetrable perimeter armed with gun turrets and petroleum-fueled flame-throwers to shred and burn off the natives.

There's even an open source port of Civilization. I forget what it's called but my understanding is that it's pretty good. However, I'm uncertain what you mean by 'rng'. Does that mean you did or didn't ultimately like Civilization?

Edited May 25 by UsernameWithA9
Stupid typo

[InDarkestNight]

Rng is 'random number generation'. This can involve dice rolls, like the Blood Bowl games, cards games like MTG or Sentinels of the Multiverse, or random map generation like the civilization games. After thinking about how to play these games better recently, I realized that despite what they look like, there's little strategy in them. Pretty much everything is dictated by rng, from the resources you have, the terrain, who your neighbors are, pretty much everything. There actually isn't anything you can do to get 'better'. Whether you win or lose depends solely on the random map generator.

Also, I hate updates. Release the game finished then leave it the f*#@ alone. As I state, I hate how companies that torn away from me every game I've ever loved. Its why I have no games now. If it wasn't for updates, I would have dozens of games to play, but all I have is Skyrim LE.

If it matters btw, I do have a lot of older games on disc. The discs did still work the last I checked, but I wouldn't know how to install windows game from disc onto Linux. I wouldn't expect that to be supported anymore, given how long its been since games have been released on disc.

[Guest deleted156886133]

I beg to differ on those random map type games. At least in the case of OpenTTD. There was so much to do, so much to micro-manage. Resource and transport route management, vehicle (trains, buses, trucks, dump trucks, etc.) management, competition from other transport companies, keeping the locals in the towns and cities happy enough to continue building your empire. Speaking of which, how well you build your network will determine your success, especially the train network. The trains rely on signals, so proper signal and track placement is sometimes critical. One misplaced or forgotten signal and you have a train collision costing you hundreds of thousands of dollars plus cargo or sometimes they get backed up clogging the network. It can be a mess.

Just the vanilla version is good but there are a lot of add-ons a.k.a. NewGRFs available. I used to play with about twenty, thirty or so and one in particular that expanded upon the industry selection considerably. It was very complex. That really made things interesting. And you can design your own maps or randomize one along with setting other variables pre-game; map size, number of industries, etc.

But yeah, updates get tiresome and frustrating but sometimes necessary. I just noticed that OpenTTD just got updated, by the way. Hah! I guess there's always something to tweak on. But to be fair, some of the updates are most likely implemented to maintain compatibility with the ever-evolving world of technology. Because the game has far surpassed perfection, in my opinion.

1 hour ago, InDarkestNight said:

but I wouldn't know how to install windows game from disc onto Linux

Are you kidding me? WINE! However, I consider it to be a pain in the ass but if you want to put in the work and learn how to install it on Linux in order to play those old discs, I'm sure it can be done. 

--Edit--

You can run WINE on any Windows iteration needed for game compatibility... provided the discs still work. I just noticed that.

Edited May 25 by UsernameWithA9

[AaronOfMpls]

46 minutes ago, InDarkestNight said:

If it matters btw, I do have a lot of older games on disc. The discs did still work the last I checked, but I wouldn't know how to install windows game from disc onto Linux. I wouldn't expect that to be supported anymore, given how long its been since games have been released on disc.

For older games with little-to-no DRM beyond a disc check, that's been fairly easy in plain-old Wine.  Insert and mount the disc, run the installer, and tell it to install somewhere in my ~/wingames/ folder.  Then launch via the CD's autorun file, so it passes the disc check.  You could probably copy the CD somewhere (or make a disc image of it) and use that instead.

For games with more, I don't know directly, as I haven't tried it much yet.  I don't have many mid-to-late 2000s CD/DVD games that I've wanted to play yet in my 4 years on Linux.  Though for SimCity 4, I did buy the GOG version when it was discounted to about $5 during a big sale.  (I might do the same for Spore eventually too -- given its DRM didn't even play nice with Process Explorer running on Windows,* I don't have high hopes for it liking Wine on Linux.)

My old DOS games, meanwhile, I copied my DOSBox installs over from previous Windows PCs.  Only a few file paths in my DOSBox .conf files needed to be changed -- namely, what folders should be mounted as what drive letters (e.g., ~/dosbox/dosprogs/ instead of C:\dosprogs\, ~/dosbox/dosdisks/ instead of C:\dosdisks\, etc).  

The few DOS games that need the CD (like The 7th Guest), I'd already copied their CDs to a ~/dosbox/DOS-CDs/ folder, and each game has a .conf file that mounts its CD's folder as the first CD-ROM drive.  I have separate shortcuts to launch DOSBox with game-specific .conf files -- or I can do it via command line (e.g., dosbox -conf ~/dosbox/t7g.conf -fullscreen). 

And for those that don't need the dis(c/k), I copied the install dis(c/k)s over anyway (to ~/dosbox/dosdisks/ for floppies, and ~/dosbox/DOS-CDs/ for CDs), for easier reinstalling if I ever need to.

49 minutes ago, InDarkestNight said:

Also, I hate updates. Release the game finished then leave it the f*#@ alone. As I state, I hate how companies that torn away from me every game I've ever loved. Its why I have no games now. If it wasn't for updates, I would have dozens of games to play

Consider buying your new games from GOG; updates are always optional from there.  You can still launch them in Steam as non-Steam games if you want, or outside Steam in regular Wine.

57 minutes ago, UsernameWithA9 said:

There's even an open source port of Civilization.

FreeCiv -- though it's more of a Civ I-III remake, rather than a port.  It should be in most distros' repos (search for FreeCiv), or you can get it directly from GitHub.

Though speaking of Civ, I've had no trouble getting Civilization II to install off the original (Multiplayer Gold Edition) CD.  As for playing, it passes the disc check just fine if I mount the disc and launch its Autorun.exe.

 

* a more-involved version of the Windows XP Task Manager, kinda.  Spore's original DRM used to throw a cryptic error message and refuse to launch the game if Process Explorer was running.  Workaround was to exit Process Explorer, launch the game, then relaunch Process Explorer.

[AaronOfMpls]

2 hours ago, InDarkestNight said:

And yes, I've been having anger issues for a while now. I have no way to relax. No way to enjoy my free time. All I do is eat, s#*! and work. I don't listen to music anymore either. Its a long story, but to make it short I went down a rabbit hole on youtube of evil music (including far-right stuff, f*#@ folk metal), and youtube won't let me find anything else. Fml.

Hopefully you can find a professional for it if you need one.  Or at the very least, make a new YouTube account to ditch that old one's history. 

And I don't mean to be trite or anything either, but hopefully there's someone in your life to give you a hug when you need it, too -- either real or virtual. 

(And I'm kinda wishing I could magically send you some of my Second Life DJ friends' music hard drives.  They have plenty of good stuff across a bunch of genres -- some are into metal and industrial, some are into dance pop, some have seemingly a little of everything.)

 

As for what I've been listening to, I've created a couple of long YouTube playlists for when I just want music on and don't want to trust the algorithm.  I also still have CDs I listen to. 

And I discovered a rock station in Slovenia that plays a little of everything from the 1960s to the present -- mostly songs in English, with the occasional Slovenian one.  (One of my Second Life friends has it on at his place in-world.)  If you've got VLC or another music player, maybe point it to their stream address for a bit. 

(...And I find it oddly comforting that radio commercials don't sound a whole lot different in Slovenian than they do in English -- even if I can't understand a word of them much beyond automobila (sp?). )

[InDarkestNight]

What other music would I even look up? I know of no other. I have tried to find new music, but literally nothing else appeals to me other than what I was listening to before, and what resembles it, with all the same problems. I've looked up everything from modern pop to stupid obscure things (like dungeon synth, math rock, and hyperpop), or ancient things like funk (well, to be honest, I was just curious to see what funk actually sounded like, no idea how it ever caught on).

Besides, youtube did seem to forget who I was when I first switched to linux (i very rarely log in anymore). It only took it a few days to figure out who I was though, and start shoving the same s#*! in my face it did before. There's no escaping youtube's bullshit algorthm. It even did so on my laptop when I first go it, though far faster.

Regarding gaming, I have no idea how to use wine. I've been running all my games through proton on steam. I would have no idea how to run any program through wine. As for mod organizer, I found a linux build of it that also installed skse for me along with memory boost. Its what I've been playing with. I'm still new to linux and don't really know what I'm doing with it. I dropped off learning after I got things running. Only issue I've been having is the thing freezing on shut down. No idea what could be causing that.

Edited May 25 by InDarkestNight