jmegalos Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 I've been getting this strange behavior where hostile NPCs that don't normally respawn will keep coming back. Most noticeably the Brotherhood hit squad that attacks Railroad HQ at the beginning of Precipice of War respawn every time I leave the cell for a day or two. I've also had Northy's bodyguards that you take out during The Silver Shroud reappear (though not Northy himself). Checking them via the console doesn't point to anything other than the Fallout master. Oddly, I've also found the Brotherhood spawns as non-hostile to me while still killing everyone else. I'm pretty certain it's caused by a mod conflict but loading everything up in xEdit doesn't show any direct conflicts involving either the quests or locations as far as I can tell. Does anyone have advice for how I could go about diagnosing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KriticalGuy Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Not much to go off of. Can you post your load order? also post your FO4SE mod list if you use it. I must be a mod that has flagged them to respawn. Mods that dynamically change npc spawns like SCOURGE may be implicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmegalos Posted July 10 Author Share Posted July 10 Full list of active mods: Spoiler 0000,Creation Club: ccSBJFO4003-Grenade 0001,Creation Club: ccOTMFO4001-Remnants 0002,Creation Club: ccFSVFO4007-Halloween 0003,Creation Club: ccBGSFO4116-HeavyFlamer 0004,Creation Club: ccBGSFO4115-X02 0005,Creation Club: ccBGSFO4110-WS_Enclave 0006,Creation Club: ccBGSFO4096-AS_Enclave 0007,Creation Club: ccBGSFO4046-TesCan 0008,Creation Club: ccBGSFO4044-HellfirePowerArmor 0009,DLC: Wasteland Workshop 0010,DLC: Vault-Tec Workshop 0011,DLC: Nuka-World 0012,DLC: Far Harbor 0013,DLC: Contraptions Workshop 0014,DLC: Automatron 0016,Address Library for F4SE Plugins 0017,Backported Archive2 Support System 0018,PrivateProfileRedirector F4 - Faster game start (INI file cacher) 0020,Better Console - F4SE 0021,High FPS Physics Fix 0022,RobCo Patcher 0023,Baka MaxPapyrusOps 0024,Random Encounter Framework 0025,Lighthouse Papyrus Extender 0026,Garden of Eden Papyrus Script Extender 0027,RAW INPUT - The Ultimate Mouse Sensitivity Fix 0029,Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch 0030,Ownership Fixes 0031,Community Fixes Merged 0032,The Midnight Ride - Glitchfinder All-In-One 0033,Misc anim tweaks and fixes 0034,Weapon Mod Fixes 0035,Community Fixes Merged - Weapon Mod Fixes Patch 0036,Buffout 4 0037,Sprint Stuttering Fix 0038,Hostile NPC Respawn Fix ESL 0039,Jet Script Bug Fix 0040,Armor Penetration Bug Fix - F4SE 0041,Energy Weapon Calculation Fix 0042,Outfit ReDress Fix 0043,Interior NavCut Fix 0044,Long Save Bug Fix 0045,3rd Person Behavior Fixes 0046,Reload Fix 0047,Wetness Shader Fix 0048,Fixed Protectron Textures 0049,Fixed Gobo Effects 0050,Marine Combat Armor Material Fix 0051,NPC Drinking Fix 0052,Flutter Flicker Fixer For Foliage 0055,Simple Puddle Reflection Flicker Fix (Water and Blood) 0056,Weapon Debris Crash Fix 0057,Godrays Performance Fix Redux - ESPless 0060,Bullet Counted Reload System (BCR) 0061,Remove Ammo from Dropped Guns 0062,To Your Face FO4 0063,Simple Offence Suppression F4 0064,Faster Workbench Exit 0065,Dogmeat Follow Behind 0067,Mod Configuration Menu 0068,MCM Settings Manager 0069,MCM Booster 0070,Extended Dialogue Interface 0071,Crafting Highlight Fix 0072,Outline Workshop Highlight Only 0074,Complex Vendors 0075,Complex Vendors - UFO4P Patch 0076,SPARS - Simple Power Armor Reduction System 0079,Weapon Scrapping Redone 0080,Clothing Scrapping Redone 0081,Legendaries They Can Use 0082,Molotov Cocktail Nerf 0084,The Attachment Pack 0085,The Attachment Pack Implementation Patch 0086,The Attachment Pack - Implementation WMF Patch 0087,Attachment Pack - Description Tweaks and Fixes 0088,You And What Army 2 0089,You And What Army 2 No Artillery Support 0091,Gloomy Glass - All transparent materials revised 0092,Targeted Textures 0093,FO4 Particle Patch 0094,WET 0095,WAVE - Wave Animation Vanilla Enhanced 0097,Hair Specular Map Removal Thingy 0098,First-Person Running with Hands Animations 0099,Diamond City Billboards 0100,Diamond City Supplements 0101,Goodneighbor View 0102,Remove Ironsight Blur 0103,Terrain Undersides 0106,NVIDIA Reflex Support 0107,Alias - Framework 0108,Alias Framework Expanded 0109,Baka Framework 0110,Workshop Framework 0111,Canary Save File Monitor 0112,LooksMenu 0113,Rename Anything 0115,Settlement Menu Manager 0116,Spell Perk Item Distributor 0117,Rebuild - Workshop Standalone 0118,Vilance's Library Plugin 0119,Papyrus Script Runner 0122,Automatron Caravan Fixes 0123,Automatron Factory Fix 0124,Clean And Simple Weapon Collision Box Fix 0125,Fort Hagen Prydwen Flyover Fix 0126,Mesh Bounds Fix 0127,Fast Travel Background Load AI Detection Fix 0128,Clearable Wreck of the USS Riptide 0129,Settlement Dead Zone Fixes - Max Coverage 0130,PB Face Fix 0133,HUDFramework 0134,FallUI - Icon Library 0135,FallUI - Inventory 0136,FallUI - HUD 0137,FallUI - Workbench 0138,FallUI - Confirm Boxes 0139,FallUI - Map 0140,FallUI - Sleep and Wait 0142,Whisper's Delayed DLC 0143,Leveled Item Fixes (LIF) 0144,V.A.T.S. 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KriticalGuy Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 You have mod literally called Hostile NPC Respawn Fix very strong possibility for it to be the culprit. Other than that, you have so many mods that alter base NPC records such as We Have Names and the Diverse series. If the first solution doesn't work, I suggest you load all of your mods in FO4Edit, go to fallout4.esm, then to base npc records, sort by EditorID, and check all records for conflicts that start with BOS for example if you want to troubleshoot brotherhood of steel. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmegalos Posted July 10 Author Share Posted July 10 Yeah, that was my first though actually but I'm also fairly certain this behavior predates having that installed. I guess the only way to be certain is with another game without it. Thanks for the suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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