Mods for characters who don't spend much if any time near civilization?

[InDarkestNight]

The base game prioritizes you completing quests and interacting with merchants. There isn't much to do outside of this other than mindlessly clearing dungeons. Why can't we play as a hunter who spends most of their time in the wilderness? Or a morally bankrupt necromancer who has to stay far from civilization?

There is the Undeath mod, which does add in some stuff you can do that would be appropriate for a necromancer, including a dedicated merchant who clearly wouldn't care about your character's predilection. I don't know of any other quest mods though that don't require you to go anywhere near civilization.

For hunters, there is the Chanterelle mod, but that's only for SE. I admit, I would love to play this, but I have no way too! Then again, I did re-install s#*! edition for the Beyond Skyrim project. Perhaps I could play it, but only if I have some way to avoid Skyrim itself.

I guess there's also draugnarok, which essentially removes all the vanilla npcs and turns cities into open-air draugr tombs. That however doesn't cover the lack of content outside of civilized society.

What else could be used? I'm not well versed in quest mods (Undeath, It Bears for Her, and Moon and Star are the only ones I've ever fully played through). Of course small side-quest mods like these are rather few. Most quest mods are pretty large scale, with many of them straight being dlc-sized!

I guess dungeon mods can help too, like Forgotten Dungeons or even Skyrim Underground, though that only gives you some new locations to explore; it still doesn't solve the problem that all you have to do is hunt animals and clear dungeons.

[BlazeStryker]

Campfire, Hunterborn, Keep it Clean, iNeed - Continued. Don't forget to expand the crafting every way you can and patch it all as needed. Experience, so you can set your own XP rewards for exploration and clearing and so skill use doesn't raise your character levels. Chanterelle works for AE.

If you're serious about avoiding Skyrim itself until later, load in and use the start as a Native or use the dovetailing mod The Island as even escaping it strands you in Chanterelle.

Conversely, you can mess about with Shattered Skyrim in its several flavors of the post-apocalypse.

[InDarkestNight]

Decided to look up chanterelle. Honestly, I feel disgusted simply accessing the SE section now. Besides, from what I've read of the bullshit that was force-installed through the AE virus, there's no escaping it. You have quests forced upon you, you have that stupid survival mode that you can't disable, gear, force greets from npcs, even water doesn't work the same way anymore because of the fishing virus. Maybe s#*! edition is simply unsalvageable. Besides, I've been wondering lately why I'm even still waiting for the Beyond Skyrim project. I've been thinking of disconnecting from the internet permanently, and in fact all my searches lately have been purely in preparation for that. Beyond Skyrim is clearly not coming out anytime soon. How can I download it if I don't go online anymore? Guess I'll be purging s#*! edition from my system just to save on ssd space. f*#@ bethesda. I can't wait for the day they go under, and skyrim is taken over by a more reasonable company THERE REVERSES THE AE VIRUS.

[BlazeStryker]

AE is a pain in the ass, but there are remedies. Look up and use the Content Picker. That'll save you from the worst of the kludge while letting you keep the gems like Fishing (although the quests suck), Rare Curios, Farming, Saints and Seducers (which you then mod IMMEDIATELY) and maybe a couple of armors if you feel like it.

[BlazeStryker]

Mods let you not be hassled by the Survival notice, too. Just saying.

[InDarkestNight]

I said the AE virus, not the AE version. You just listed everything I do not want in my game! I never wanted this s#*!, I prefer frostfall because 'survival mode' is a shitty knock-off that isn't worth playing EVEN IF YOU GET FOR IT FOR FREE. The fishing thing sucks, rare curios breaks the game and makes you unable to use ANYTHING that overhauls alchemy. The saints and seducers things renders most spell mods unusable. I think there's some fourth piece of s#*! too, but I can't recall what its called right now. Besides, I gave up on s#*! edition long before that even happened, because I was sick of not being able to play my game for months on end while I waited for the skse team to get a workaround out before bethesda launched yet another attack.

Also I have heard of disablers for the ae virus, but last I heard bethesda was releasing viruses (more popularly known as patches) to stop those from working They ultimately won, forcing everyone to play with the ae virus. They even removed the ability to downgrade the game through steam BECAUSE THEY FOUND VIRTUALLY EVERYONE WAS USING THAT TO DOWNGRADE THE GAME TO BEFORE THAT VIRUS HIT.

Bethesda hates modding, it couldn't be more obvious than the sun. Why do they keep releasing attack after attack? The AE virus thing was even PURE GENIUS. Who would've thought they would force-install content that was all VERY carefully chosen to create as many conflicts as possible? You can't run hardly anything with that worthless revolting s#*! installed! They even recently changed the FILE FORMAT TEXTURES USED JUST TO STOP PEOPLE FROM USING ALL THE RETEXTURES OUT THERE. COUNTLESS PEOPLE BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO BEAUTIFY THEIR GAME SO MODERN PEOPLE WOULD PLAY IT, COMPLETELY FOR FREE, AND THEY THREW ALL OF THAT INTO THEIR FACES. Honestly, I'd question if chanterelle would even run. Also, wouldn't the virus also affect that? They did include pieces of disgusting s#*! that you can't evade (such as the survival mode thing). Honestly, if its that inescapable, then even the Beyond Skyrim project isn't worth playing. Why bother when the game is completely unplayable?

[BlazeStryker]

That's a rant on a level with mine when they hose me badly. Look, dude, you're both right and completely wrong.

Bethesda loves modding since the modders do 3/4 of the damned dev work for them, but they hate losing the ability to grift, grift, and girft. I don't give a wet fecal mass about Survival Mode because I don't USE it and later modding means I never get notices about it. Until the damn company collapses and loses the ability to force Degrades on people, it is going to be a continual arms race between forced crap and picking out the good bits while fixing the crappy parts.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/72751? is the Delayed Quest Starts mod collection, and that includes Fishing. You can fish all the time and not get saddled with Angler Acquaintences until you go to Riften and ask the barkeeper Keerava; you know, when it's actually in context?
That's the arms race. Grifting Grifters want to force everyone to use inferior for-pay mods. We get around it. In the process, the modders get so good they end up making full total conversions like Enderal or Fallout London.

Yes, it's traumatic. YES, it's a slog. YES, it's frustrating and exhausting. Just think how badly those greedy bastards are suffering! Play on, fight on... and remember:
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(Yeah, I'm going there)

...

WAR NEVER CHANGES.

(Told you I'd go there)

[InDarkestNight]

Jesus, what do they have to do to convince people like you that they hate modding? This is like denying that someone is assaulting you while they're in the middle of doing it. What could prove it wrong? They release updates that do nothing but attack code skse needs to work. Also, mods stop working after a few updates even if they don't use skse. When I played, I was literally unable to use any mods that at all that were made more than a few months away from the version I was running. The same mods backported to LE work fine, regardless of when they were made. Suspicious. Look at all the mods on the se nexus; limit them to the ones that were uploaded within the past month or two. That's all you have to pick from. Now, go look at the entirety of the LE nexus. That's all you have to play with. Anyone can test this for themselves. Do you even play SE? You talk like you don't. I used to, I know what its like, what you say is flying in the face of my own experiences.

Then explain the AE virus. Those things are all cheap crap that nobody wanted. In fact, It think one of them was never released before. They conflict with over 90% of the mods on the nexus. All perk overhauls, all alchemy mods, just about all spell mods, all survival mods, anything that affects khajiit merchants, and the innumerable patches and translations for said mods. Virtually nothing can be used now, even if it would work on any version. As if that wasn't enough, they even launched their most vicious attack on modding with that 'binary' virus. Literally nothing works from before that; even freaking models. And what happened after that? They changed the file format on textures. So you know all those gigantic retexture mods that everybody uses to make the game look less dated? THEY DESTROYED THOSE BECAUSE THEY HATE THEM.

The evidence is pretty damning. What could possibly refute this? Why do mods stop working after just a few versions? Why do they keep attacking SKSE and claiming its for the 'cc s#*!', but oddly enough EVERYONE GETS THIS UPDATES EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE A SINGLE PIECE OF CC s#*! INSTALLED, then they force-installed crap 'mods' that were clearly carefully chosen to create the most incompatiblity problems possible, they then did something to the game's binary for no reason other than to stop mods from working, then they changed the file type for textures for no reason. Literally every single thing they've done has been an apocalypse on modding. Why else would they be doing this? Its not necessary to keep the game running; LE still works fine (though in my case it always worked better than s#*! edition for some reason, still no idea why, even changing my OS hasn't fixed the issues I was having with s#*! edition, such as a guanteed crash in dragonsreach, even without a single modification, keep in mind I had to change my harddrive and OS, so there isn't a single thing left installed from last time I used it). They're obviously not dong it to keep the game running, so why else are they doing it? Why bother? Why put in this much effort? Also, why is every single thing they do such an over-the-top attack on mods? Why? What are they doing? What else could they be doing?

Also, anyone else does this, they have hell to pay for it. Unity tried to do this, and various indie game companies threatened to sue them for TRYING TO DESTROY WORK THAT WASN'T THEIRS. Imagine if RPG maker did this. Anyone ever tries to do this, they DON'T GET AWAY WITH IT. Why is bethesda allowed to? Is there just too many denialists in this community due to ULFRIC ATTRACTING ALT-RIGHT IDIOTS. And yes, that does happen. I've gotten into debates on the steam boards over whether or not the holocaust happened. They started viciously attacking me when I said I prefered to side with the empire. They used lines to defend Trump but with 'Trump' replaced with 'Ulfric', they used real-world racist language to refer to dark elves, seriously. Reddit has similar problems, and its not hard to find them on youtube. This all makes me think that maybe the game should just die and be forgotten. It just attracts too much of the far right DUE TO IT LITERALLY LETTING YOU JOIN A RACIST FACTION. Granted, they're projecting their own beliefs on him sometimes, but that doesn't change how many of them are here. Even this board has this problem; just look on the banned forum all the bigots they're having to ban. Its rare someone isn't banned for bigotry.

And yes, they do deny everything under the sun. My own sister's alt-right fiancee is like this. He literally denies everything no matter how banal it is. I've questioned in the past how he can even function, or hold down a job he's so out of it. Even my schizophrenic father, who refused to acknowledge there was something wrong with him his whole life, was more grounded in reality. What does that say? It seems like I can't escape these people. They rule the internet, they're all over skyrim, the biggest lovecrtaft youtuber is an open white supremacist, and my own home town is ruled by them. I seriously wonder at times if me and my family are the only ones who didn't vote for Trump. Literally my entire neighborhood even has trump signs up, they're still flying their trump flags, they even kept their 2020 election signs up until they just straight disintegrated. They even seem more common now than ever. It makes me depressed simply walking down to my mailbox. What ever happened to this country? Did we ever move away from this? Were they ever defeated? Maybe America is hopeless.

[SirCadsimar]

On 8/1/2024 at 7:03 AM, InDarkestNight said:

you have that stupid survival mode that you can't disable

I can disable it in my game soon after new game start and then I'm never bothered by it again in that playthrough, I don't know what's wrong in your game where you can't for whatever reason...

[SirCadsimar]

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