[Mod Request] Request Follower Commit Crime

[Waltjac7]

Premise: When I tell Nessa I need her to unlock a master lock she obliges and opens it up for me. Problem is, she then gets me a bounty for doing so. Even in the cover of night and no one around, who snitched on her? I am looking for a solution that allows the follower to preform a criminal favor and not get me a bounty. 

I have rummaged through Nexus or Reddit? And saw that someone was trying to unlink the criminal action Followers preform from the player. Yet those familiar with it mentioned that the process was too complicated to get it to be stable and functioning. I am wondering if it could be a little simpler than that.

1. I noticed that the follower will leave sneak when you ask them to preform the favor. 

2. There are mods that stop animals, ect from reporting the crime on the player. But does it cover the player's party? Are my followers being snitched on by a stool chicken?

3. I am wondering if I can use the in game OAR menu to circumvent this, there is a condition for "is preforming a favor." But I never looked into it's sub categories. If a mod itself cannot be done, could a set of conditions be made? Hypothetically, [is preforming a favor + is sneaking + stay your ass in sneak + something that signifies they are detected= don't preform the task yet + OR> something that signifies they are not detected= preform the task]

Any feedback would be appreciated. 

[7531Leonidas]

You could use xEdit to give that follower the perk that makes them undetectable while picking locks.

 

[Waltjac7]

I have thought about that. Doesn't that perk only work when you are sneaking? I would have to fix that issue of her leaving the sneaking state to waltz over and open the door.

[7531Leonidas]

I am not sure, but you could do a search on the effects of the perk to make sure.  I like to use the UESPWiki ( https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page ) for stuff like that.

FYI - I looked there, the description only states that you can pick locks without being noticed.  You could try it with your NPC and see, just don't save the game if it doesn't work.

[Karna5]

Hi, Waltjac7. I don't know the answer to your questions, but just in case you're not aware, there's actually no penalty for crime and incarceration (unless you're using prison alternative mods with the extra execution outcomes, of course, in which case you could end up dead but in a fun way).

If you get caught, don't pay your fine. Just go to jail and sleep in the bed to serve your time. It won't actually pass time, and you get your gear back afterward, and there will be an evidence chest nearby where you can sneakily get your stolen goods which were confiscated.

Alternatively, you can make an adventure out of trying to escape each hold's jail (that's fun as well).

There's a good chance Bethesda deliberately doesn't let you use followers to do crimes because (I'm guessing) they very much want you to go to jail *Laughs*

In Skyrim, I love going to jail. In real life, not so much.

[Waltjac7]

I don't want to sound like one of those people lol, what about the immersion? I team up with a thief capable of stealing from the Psjic Order. She can't open someone's door without some scrub guard showing up, telling me he's coming to take me in and the stolen property. I guess she botched that job too but it's the Psjics vs a run of the mill door. That just gets to me, that I can't rent a room, tell the team to wait. Approach Nessa tell her to follow me. Go sneaking through the town and rob the hold blind before the sun comes up. I don't want to go to jail unless it is deliberate. Like I want to go to jail in Riften to break out and talk to Sibi. Now I guess I could always be Nessa's fall guy. And we can rob everything as long as she's holding the goods. And I'll just waltz out after my time is up like Clooney and she'll be waiting for me with the goods. Yeah, but it'll get old after awhile and the game is never going to catch on. Is that the immersion that I desire lol? And I don't want to pay gold for and lose the profit of the theft, which is what I have been normally doing. Saving, loading, restarting. I don't want to go to jail, irl or the game lol.  

And Bethesda team just seems to be good at making these big worlds with lore in them. But when it comes to playing in them that's where at the bugs, CTDs and mods come about. I feel like the TES6 is just going to be a graphical upgrade of Skyrim but still have controls and mechanics as old as 2018. 

[Karna5]

57 minutes ago, Waltjac7 said:

but still have controls and mechanics as old as 2018

I could live with that for Skyrim sequel. I associate 2018 with Red Dead Online which has superb aiming and still possibly the best graphics in any PC game, definitely of any online or open world PC game. My problem with Skyrim AE is I don't hit what my mouse is aiming at. I hit what my body is facing which is obviously 2007 (pre-mouse) mechanics *Laughs*

p.s. Since you play a thief, you may want to look into Prison Alternatives mods for the immersion and role play aspect. There are some fun ones, though very difficult to install correctly.