Morrigan snapping in with a Witcher 3 dress upon intro, switches to vanilla outfit when going to Flemeth(Completely different mod is installed for her to wear)

[raeynedrop]

So I'm really at a loss.

I've been trying to figure out what's causing this and I really don't know. I'm about to start a fresh game in the morning to test and see if it's just a funky save file. 

But Morrigan keeps loading in, during her intro, in the Tabris dress from Ladyofpayne's Witcher Pack. I cannot see a single file that would be making this happen in my override. I managed to do something to where switching over to Flemeth results in her wearing her base outfit, but I have Raven Skull in my override right now, which isn't showing at all. Is there any mod on that does this?? I know its not from LOP. I've had it installed before without something like this happening. I'm imagining some weird overwrite may have also occured?

I can't say I've ever experienced anything like this before lmao

[theskymoves]

Absent a full list of mods, any long distance troubleshooting is just guesswork.

Mods that change NPC gear are easy to make and plentiful. The file that assigns Morrigan's equipment (among other things) is gen00fl_morrigan.utc. First thing I'd do is  check the override for any files with that name. Also, NPC equipment is assigned and baked into the game's save as soon as an area map is entered, so that Witcher Pack robe should have been locked in as soon as you entered the Korcari Wilds. Without knowing what the 'something' you did was, there's no way of knowing why she reverted to her BioWare robe.

Also, what parts of Raven Skull Robe have you installed? There's a replacer version, a standalone version, individual replacers... ?

[raeynedrop]

Unfortunately, I have so many that I'm not about to drop that on anyone to troubleshoot for me and that's part of my issue in resolving this. I guess my initial question moreso was wondering if anyone knew of a mod that would load her in with the Tabris dress from that mod, lmao.

Any mod that added gear or changed, didn't seem to have been written to affect Morrigan's outfit/utc file. That was the first thing I looked for, to no avail. Which was further confusing. I did, however, think that she wouldn't load in until you approach the cache. So now that I uninstalled what I thought was causing the problem, I'll reload into the Korcari and see if it's still happening. I imagine it shouldn't if she's at least loading with her default gear when going to Flem's hut, but it's still really weird that it wasn't loading into the Raven Skull gear period

And that being said, I just installed the basic no-hood variant. Soooo I'll post this update, load the gate out of Ostagar, and run through it again to see where it's currently sitting.

 

edit: yeah, I did fix that. Was just being silly thinking that she popped in before the cache instead of with the zone. Still no RS though, so I must have installed that wrong ( ed2: to no one's surprise, I did)

edit3: annnddd, did another blast-through when I downloaded missing files for RS(replacing her starting outfit). And she is now wearing another W3 dress, this time Philippa's dress, instead. JFC. I think I may just edit the UTC myself at this rate. Every mod I've d/l'd that adds outfits, or changes them (like Thedas Redone) I've scanned through and I'm not seeing conflicts that would change Morrigan or cause this.

In the off chance anyone ever struggles with something like this in the future, hopefully this thread may serve some kind of use. I definitely royally goofed along the way... This is just a first time for me with it being this weird.

Edited August 24 by raeynedrop

[theskymoves]

The standalone version from the Raven Skull Robe mod has an Item Variation ID conflict with the Witcher Pack Philippa dress. Both items use model ID 169.

The issue isn't the UTC. It's an inherent conflict between two mods that use the same model ID number for items in the same class.

Patching out the conflict is one option to have the correct robe appearance, the other option would be to remove the Witcher Pack mod (or at least the files for the conflicting item) from your install. (If you do remove the files for the Witcher Pack dress, you might still need to edit a clothing_variation GDA file to fully remove the conflict, depending on how  LadyOfPayne set up the GDA/GDAs for that item class. If the dress is included in a GDA with items you want to keep, then delete the line for that ID number. If she used individual GDA files for each item, then deleting the files for the dress would be sufficient to resolve the conflict.)

To patch out the conflict (and I'm sure some else must have written a better explanation, but this is my garbage tutorial on patching out Item Variation ID conflicts): https://kinlochhold.tumblr.com/post/137349892157/how-to-eliminate-item-variation-conflicts.

The issue with the Witcher Pack Tabris dress appearing may also have been caused by a model ID conflict... mods that add clothing are especially prone to that issue, due to the very limited number of available variation IDs.