UNP or CBBE ?

[RedStarr75]

Hi , so enjoying my first modded playthrough currently using UNP but alot of armour Im wanting to use seems to be only available for CBBE and it seems bodyslide also doesnt work for UNP. My character seems so skinny! 

Just wondering what body type you guys are using and if its worth the hassle of changing a load of mods for just a few new sets of armour and to make my character look like they had a decent meal. 

Also, with UNP do you have to uninstall the mod to change from vanilla/skinny/curvy ? cannot seem to find an ingame way to change that and what I have read it seems you can only do this with CBBE or BHUNP whatever that is . 

 

atm im using 

UNP Female Body Renewal - A female face and body replacer

Fair Skin Complexion  UNP 

Immersive Armors

 

 

[Karna5]

17 minutes ago, RedStarr75 said:

alot of armour Im wanting to use seems to be only available for CBBE

That's interesting. I use CBBE 3BA, and it seems half the stuff I want to try is for UNP *Laughs*

However, I think there's a newer version of UNP just like there's a newer version of CBBE (I use CBBE 3BA v2, for instance).

Just check any new outfit and see what they say the requirements are. If you're using the old UNP, you probably should upgrade to any of the newer bodies so you can use the newer outfits.

FYI, I love CBBE 3BA very much, but I have friends who use the other bodies as well.

p.s. To be clear, older versions of a body and newer ones are not even the same shape. It's not just a matter of changed sliders, but they're actually different bodies. For instance, a CBBE 3BBB body won't match a CBBE 3BAv2 body, and it absolutely won't match a normal CBBE body. I suspect UNP may have similar compatibility issues, but I don't use UNP so am unsure.

[drsemmel]

I use CBBE 3BA mostly because I think its the best body (for making bodyslides). But if you like the UNP shape , maybe try BHUNP (UUNP Next Generation) SSE.

[drsemmel]

46 minutes ago, RedStarr75 said:

Also, with UNP do you have to uninstall the mod to change from vanilla/skinny/curvy ?

 

Yes, you would have to re-install and choose from the fomod options (if I remember correctly, its been a while)

[radiusrsatti]

I use BHUNP v3, have about 1k armor mods in this variant, not counting the vanilla refits... I haven't tried CBBE, I have no idea how many armor mods there are for it, but I know that a large chunk of my mods are available for CBBE, just not all... and of course, there are several CBBE mods that are not available in UNP/BHUNP

I also use UNP armors that don't have the high-poly BHUNP bodytypes... UNP and BHUNP v3 meshes are interchangeable in-game (UNP textures work on BHUNP bodies and vice versa, same texture layout), both can be used together (I mean generated meshes, I do NOT mean using the master UNP mod AND the BHUNP mod)... they use the same sliders (up to BHUNP v3, v4 removed many of the sliders common between UNP and v3) so bodyslide presets can be used on BOTH body types... keep in mind that you have to use individual master bodyslides (UNP vs BHUNP) for generation... can't use the BHUNP master body to gen UNP armors, or vice versa

3 hours ago, RedStarr75 said:

Also, with UNP do you have to uninstall the mod to change from vanilla/skinny/curvy ? cannot seem to find an ingame way to change that and what I have read it seems you can only do this with CBBE or BHUNP whatever that is . 

actually, no, reinstall isn't necessary, it's just a base shape to use as default... if you want a different body shape, you'd just have to gen/regen all your body/armor meshes in the body type/shape/morph sliders you want to use... character gen will only use the shape you've created (or the default if you haven't created anything), between 0 and 100 weight, there is no changing between body shapes in-game (note, you can replace ANY/ALL generated body/armor meshes at any time between games, and that will have no effect on your save)...

this only applies to armor mods that have the bodyslides... ie, if you don't generate for Immersive Armors (or other mods), there will be no change in the body type because it only has the default armor meshes

on a side note, it is also possible to do as I've done, and create different shapes for each race, like thicc big stacked bazongas for Orcs, slender with small assets for Argonians, Amazon bodies for Nords, such like that, to give body type variety in-game... keep in mind that this creates HEAVY file size bloat to your install/mod collection... I'm at 3TB for my mod collection (this is also a lot of work, so probably not in your wheelhouse at this time)

Edited August 31 by radiusrsatti

[RedStarr75]

thanks for the reply guys, one of the reasons I went for UNP is the fact it seemed the simplest option for a modding noob, no other requirements. BHUNP seems to have so many other requirements and altering things with bodyslide seems something I need to learn about before I make a change.  one of the mods I really wanted to try Crimson Blood armour has loaded with no pants which with some reading requires me to fix it with SEedit which also seems daunting. 

sometimes I feel I spend more time messing with, and learning about mods than playing the game. 

[drsemmel]

1 hour ago, RedStarr75 said:

sometimes I feel I spend more time messing with, and learning about mods than playing the game. 

That is perfectly normal

[Karna5]

3 hours ago, RedStarr75 said:

sometimes I feel I spend more time messing with, and learning about mods than playing the game.

In the long run it is always this way. You can only play the actual game so many times before you need to change it and make it something new and better, and then you need to change that as well to keep things fresh. Doing this you can enjoy the game for years. Without it, perhaps you can do one or two play throughs

[ousnius]

For CBBE, we've made this huge list of outfit mods:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TbQaDCEIdFMzAAd-0OJnGleYzwMeSi4XqVZlg7S4x-I

Currently it's updated up to May 7, 2024.

On Skyrim SE, CBBE with or without 3BA are definitely the most supported bodies.