vaultdweller1001 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Hey guys. 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Bruma.esp A Clear Map of Skyrim.esp ACMOS - Bruma.esp ACMOS - Wyrmstooth.esp ACMOS - Falskaar.esp ACMOS - Beyond Reach.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaisse Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 It would help if you could describe what happens when you start a new game. Does Vortex give you any unresolved notifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaultdweller1001 Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 Vortex doesn't give any notifications, but when I try to start a new game it just stays on the menu with the logo, but without text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcaneTourist Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 If you're using a huge mod list that includes LOTD, I'd take a look at lexyslotd.com. It's good, but it's massive and you can't easily skip parts of it. Still, there's some good info there about what fixes are needed and about mod compatibility. I assume your plugin list has been sorted with Vortex sort, via LOOT, or at least matches a guide? You could try running LOOT and looking to see if it reports any warnings. Supposedly, Vortex users should not use LOOT to sort their list. I don't use Vortex and can't comment on using Vortex sort versus LOOT sort, but just looking at LOOT's warnings would be safe. Do you have the common SKSE bug fix mods installed - SSE Engine Fixes, scrambled bugs, powerofthree's tweaks, papyrus tweaks ng? Not all of those address the infinite spinning main menu icon bug, but they're all good bug fix mods. If you disable everything except SKSE does the game start? If so, there's an issue with one of your mods. The typical approach is to use a binary search approach to finding the bad mod. Disable half of your mods and see if the game launches - that eliminated 1/2 of your mods as the culprit. Once the game runs with 1/2 your mods, try enabling half of the still-disabled mods (aka 1/4 of the total). Keep enabling and disabling by halves until you're down to one bad mod. I know Vortex has profiles - maybe duplicate the current profile and use it for testing so that you don't accidentally rearrange stuff past recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcaneTourist Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I don't see any smashed patch or bashed patch. Unless you're following some guide to the letter that provides all necessary compatibility patches, I strongly suspect you need a bashed patch or a smashed patch. Smashing or Bashing will probably make your load order better at the cost of doing a few things wrong. With sufficient knowledge, you can double check the results in xEdit. Or, stick close to a guide if you don't yet have enough experience checking or making compatibility patches. However, this is about gameplay - it should be unrelated to your non-working main menu screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karna5 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I start a new game every few weeks give or take (and I have 447 installed mods with 319 active plugins). I started one this week in fact. For me I noticed I crash if I log into a game, then exit to menu and try to start a new game. I do not crash if I start a new game as soon as I start up Skyrim. It seems that if mods get loaded with one character's settings, it can crash trying to start a new character. But if I start the game truly clean (not logging into an older character first), then I can start a new game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcaneTourist Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 59 minutes ago, Karna5 said: I start a new game every few weeks give or take (and I have 447 installed mods with 319 active plugins). I started one this week in fact. For me I noticed I crash if I log into a game, then exit to menu and try to start a new game. I do not crash if I start a new game as soon as I start up Skyrim. It seems that if mods get loaded with one character's settings, it can crash trying to start a new character. But if I start the game truly clean (not logging into an older character first), then I can start a new game. Yes. The community has determined that the Skyrim engine does *not* cleanup everything when you load a save game. Quitting to the main menu may cause the engine to do some extra cleanup, but still doesn't fully cleanup stuff from the prior save. There's even a mod named Clean Save Auto-reloader that will auto exit and restart the game whenever you try to load a save! Overkill for my tastes, but that mod would not exist if Skyrim were better at cleaning up after itself. But, this doesn't have anything to do with the OP's problem - their game launches but they never get as far as being able to interact with the main menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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