Has there been mass modding support for the "next gen" update yet?

[Frogzilla82]

F4SE is about the only mod that needed to upgrade for the next gen. that including mods that depend on F4SE. If you don't use any of those mods.....

[363rdChemicalCompany]

On 11/10/2024 at 7:37 AM, GateDiggers said:

I haven't played this game since 2021 because I lost interest because my computer just couldn't handle this game the way I wanted.  My new PC should run it fine, but I heard awful things about this "next gen" update that broke everything and offered nothing good in return.  Should I be making my new build based off an older version of Fallout 4 before the update and installing older versions of mods?  Or should I use the latest version?  It seems this update split the community in half and now modders have to cater to two versions of the game.  Such a dumb idea.  I still have my original saves and manual backups of the game, as I never had auto updates in steam enabled and always used F4se to launch the game, for this very reason because I know how unnecessary updates become especially when you have modders that have already worked in parallel to fix most of the issues already.

I locked my game version up at .163 (pre update).

The issue with the update is

a) its spams a lot of creation club content right as you step out of the vault. With no explnation why the sole survivor would be interetsed in these things and no explanation why they would know about them. Most of those CC mods are the kind a bored player who has beaten the game and is at level 100 would add but IMO , they are absolute poison to the balance of the game: Too many people will keep getting killed at this too hard content for a early character and stop playing while others will save scum thier way to OP end game level armor and weapons removing a huge gaming element of weapons and armor progression.

(Luckly there are some mods that address this egregious issue, "NixGen series":

Disable update content: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/82345

Postpone update content: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/82311 )

b) many mods are now updated , but not nearly all and some of my favorite ones are not yet. Many never will since they are abdoned, yet still work great on .163

c) While I am not as adamant about it as I was in April/May time frame, I still recommend if given the choice, to lock down your game at .163 version. But at least the nixgen mods exist I linked above so that helps and makes the new game version .984 less onerous (but still locks you out of some key mods like CBBE).

 

[363rdChemicalCompany]

On 11/13/2024 at 3:57 AM, Frogzilla82 said:

F4SE is about the only mod that needed to upgrade for the next gen. that including mods that depend on F4SE. If you don't use any of those mods.....

But even if you download the new F4SE, a F4SE dependent mod (which is many of the best ones) will still not work if the author has not updated it to the new F4SE. This is a fairly mature game at this point, many of the best mods are older and while still working, the authors moved on and in many cases will never be back.

[Frogzilla82]

Many authors have updated their mods for the newest F4SE.

[fraquar]

From my take on this is on the level of "New Coke" (update) vs Old Coke (original).

Many prefer "Old Coke" - but unlike Coca-Cola, Bethesda isn't going to recall/terminate "New Coke".