Russell has pink face.

[wfandrews]

I have never encountered this before. My problem is just what the Title says.

I am playing the GOG version 1.40.525.

Spoiler

  0  0     FalloutNV.esm
  1  1     DeadMoney.esm
  2  2     HonestHearts.esm
  3  3     OldWorldBlues.esm
  4  4     LonesomeRoad.esm
  5  5     GunRunnersArsenal.esm
  6  6     ClassicPack.esm
  7  7     MercenaryPack.esm
  8  8     TribalPack.esm
  9  9     CaravanPack.esm
 10  a     YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm
 11  b     FCOMaster.esm
 12  c     Vurt's WFO.esp
 13  d     Asterra's Many Fixes.esp
 14  e     AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm
 15  f     TLD_Travelers.esm
 16 10     Momod.esm
 17 11     More Perks.esm
 18 12     More Perks for Dead Money.esm
 19 13     AWOPDeadMoney.esm
 20 14     SomeguySeries.esm
 21 15     More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm
 22 16     More Traits.esm
 23 17     HDTshop.esm
 24 18     Better Character Creation.esm
 25 19     WMVM.esm
 26 1a     DMCaffiend.esm
 27 1b     More Perks for Old World Blues.esm
 28 1c     More Perks for Companions.esm
 29 1d     JIP Selective-Fire.esm
 30 1e     YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp
 31 1f     Unofficial Patch NVSE Plus.esp
 32 20     FCO - GlowingOne.esp
 33 21     Better Game Performance.esp
 34 22     Uncut Wasteland.esp
 35 23     FCO - NPC Changes.esp
 36 24     FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp
 37 25     WeaponModsExpanded.esp
 38 26     More Perks Update.esp
 39 27     Unique Items & Collectables.esp
 40 28     Bobblehunt.esp
 41 29     Bobblehunt - Fallout 3 Bonuses.esp
 42 2a     AWOP-Roombounds.esp
 43 2b     AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp
 44 2c     The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
 45 2d     AWOP-WMX.esp
 46 2e     WMX-ModernWeapons.esp
 47 2f     AbundantPerks.esp
 48 30     AK47.esp
 49 31     NewVegasBounties.esp
 50 32     NewVegasBountiesII.esp
 51 33     Russell.esp
           NewVegasBountiesIII.esp
 52 34     AWOP - Russell.esp
 53 35     hunter.esp
 54 36     BetterWeaponRepairKitRecipe.esp
 55 37     bobblehintbooks.esp
 56 38     MoMod-NightSpawn.esp
 57 39     MoMod-MCMMenu.esp
 58 3a     AWOP-MoMod.esp
 59 3b     MoMod-Aliens.esp
           TheBetterAngels.esp
 60 3c     HDTshop.esp
 61 3d     Clarity - Dark Nights.esp
 62 3e     AWOP Revs - Original Goodsprings Fight.esp
 63 3f     AWOP Revs - LD Nothing.esp
 64 40     ELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.esp
 65 41     SignatureArmor.esp
 66 42     SignatureWeapons.esp
 67 43     SteadyAimModV1.2.esp
 68 44     Resilience Perk - DR Toughness.esp
 69 45     PKM.esp
 70 46     Level100PerkPerLevel.esp
 71 47     noautoaim.esp
 72 48     MoreLoot.esp
 73 49     More Perks for Companions Update.esp
 74 4a     More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp
 75 4b     More Traits Update.esp
 76 4c     More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp
 77 4d     More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp
 78 4e     Classic Fallout Weapons Replacer Pack.esp
 79 4f     CFWRP WMX Patch.esp
 80 50     Mod Loot - 3. A Bit Common.esp
 81 51     M14.esp
 82 52     m110.esp
 83 53     FNV Auto Assault Shotgun.esp
 84 54     BoostedSkills.esp
 85 55     AWOP-FCO3.esp
 86 56     Perks for Challenges.esp
 87 57     SnowGlobePerks.esp
 88 58     Classic Fallout Weapons Replacer Pack (DLC).esp
 89 59     CFWRP WMX Uniques Patch.esp
 90 5a     Classic Fallout Weapons Replacer Pack (Uniques).esp
 91 5b     FCO - Russell.esp
 92 5c     Altitude.esp
 93 5d     Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

[Pellape]

@wfandrewsWell does it not look like that

FCO - Russell.esp

seems to be causing it?  Just a wild guess really.  So what is causing it? Well, I guess Russel might be set to his own race, and that a face texture is missing or point at the wrong file. Load up GECK, look at the races and have a peek or use FNVedit and peek at the races, and the last one might be easier to use in this case really. Add any face to that path and see what happens. You can use my male face for F3 there I guess. I will soon update with more male faces as well.

To see where to add the path for the texture, do peek inside the races in the FalloutNV.esm in FNVedit

Damn...  Russel do have an unique face texture...  And he looks great as well. I just took a look at him. I guess you miss a dependency, lets see...  

 

Nexus requirements

Mod name	Notes
Fallout Character Overhaul	version 3.0
Russell	1.17

 

Those might also need dependencies...    So my conclusion right now is that he is his own race. Just look at Willow, as she is also her own race. 

I might try that mod myself a nice day later on, not right now. It sure looks cool really. Damn.. 

You can also check other Russel mods, in their file content, if not any of those has a texture\character\xxxXrusselXxx\face.dds or something like that. You just have to look around really. So what about FCOmaster.esm?

 

 

Edited November 20 by Pellape

[wfandrews]

In other words there are a number of things which could be causing this.

Thank you for your reply.

[Pellape]

@wfandrewsYes there is. Tell us hows it going, if you did solve it or not, as I wanna know if you did. I might test Russel next weekend and then I can provide a better answer as well.

Edited November 21 by Pellape

[wfandrews]

I tried deactivating any mod which had a Russell patch or anything relating to Russell one at a time and then going to a save I made with Russell in it but nothing made a difference.

I ended up just uninstalling the mod.

The funny thing  is I have played the game before with Russell and never had a problem.

before this I tried New Vegas Bounties LE but did not enjoy that as much as the original so uninstalled that and installed the original New Vegas Bountie's and started a new game.

I wonder if when I uninstalled that mod it left some script behind as sometimes happens when uninstalling a large mod.

What I am going to do is uninstall FNV completely and then reinstall it. As I have the GOG edition it is fairly easy to uninstall and reinstall the game. I am one of those people who is constantly starting a new game anyway so it is no biggie. It will take me some time to get to where Russell is in my new game but when I do I will post the result here.

Thank you for your replies and I hope you enjoy playing Russell as it is a fun mod in my opinion, as are all of Someguy mods.

[Pellape]

@wfandrews

That sounds like a good idea. I still think you did miss a dependency, so instead of uninstalling everything, you should have tried maybe to find where his face texture really is at it was missing. But if I guess how you thought, is maybe that one Russel mod maybe changed the location of his face texture? It might also be the case or a Russel mod that add another not working path to his face?  Did you check if there was a face texture at textures/characters/Russel/*.dds at all? The Russel folder I wrote can be different but should include the name Russel. You cab also load GECK and a Russel mod, the main one and take a peek at the [Character] Menu at top, choose [Race...], Choose RusselRace or whatever he called it, check the path to the face texture. Put your cursor at the path and use the [->] right arrow key to get to the end of the path or just click the [END] button. Compare it with the real path in your File Explorer.

I know more after I tested this myself.

If more than one author was involved, then someone maybe made a mess...    Still it can also be the main author, or just as simple as you did miss a dependency?  In any case, backtracing others mods can be extremely frustrating, but not impossible. One extremely good example is a SS2 plugin for F4 with a purple texture. I thought I was able to fix it, the path was correct, the texture was there, but it did refuse to how up in game and there was a lot of bugreports about it as well. I was damn pissed that I could not figure out what was wrong and I still am for sure.    Damn, how hard can it be?    It could be the size that is wrong? A texture must be square, have 512x512 or 16x16 or 1024x1024 or 2048x2048, well the Power of X. That is how DXT pictures must be made. Square? It can also be rectangular, like 1024x512

Edited November 22 by Pellape

[Pellape]

@wfandrews

I am convinced that it is FCO that made your problems. I use FCO when I play F3 and it sure has some "bad" effects, well it makes it harder to make NPC's to look the way I want them to look. Still it is a good mod, no doubt. Maybe I should edit my chars with that mods activated in GECK? What I fear is that it will become a dependency though. I do not use FCO when I play FNV and I have no plans to install it, so I do suspect if I test Russel, it will not help you a single bit really.

What you can do is to load up "FCO - Russel.esp" with GECK. Go to the Character menu again, that I did describe earlier, races, check where the face texture is for the Russel race and that's it. I did also peek at that file at Nexus and nothing else then that esp is included, no textures, no nothing, just that esp.

Russel file content? The original Russel mod includes loads of files. The textures for Russel's face is:

textures\Characters\BurnScarAlt\HeadHuman.dds

Make sure that is the same path inside "FCO - Russel.esp" or try without FCO.

 

[wfandrews]

Well it was not FCO that caused the problem.

I just finished playing the game up to when I got to where Russell is and the pink face is gone, he looks like he is meant to.

I did as I said in my last post, uninstalled the game completely and then reinstalled it. This is the load order I played with this time.

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  0  0     FalloutNV.esm
  1  1     DeadMoney.esm
  2  2     HonestHearts.esm
  3  3     OldWorldBlues.esm
  4  4     LonesomeRoad.esm
  5  5     GunRunnersArsenal.esm
  6  6     ClassicPack.esm
  7  7     MercenaryPack.esm
  8  8     TribalPack.esm
  9  9     CaravanPack.esm
 10  a     YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm
 11  b     Vurt's WFO.esp
 12  c     Asterra's Many Fixes.esp
 13  d     DMCaffiend.esm
 14  e     FCOMaster.esm
 15  f     SomeguySeries.esm
 16 10     AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm
 17 11     TLD_Travelers.esm
 18 12     More Perks.esm
 19 13     More Perks for Dead Money.esm
 20 14     AWOPMonsterPatchVanilla.esm
 21 15     AWOPDeadMoney.esm
 22 16     More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm
 23 17     More Traits.esm
 24 18     HDTshop.esm
 25 19     ZionTrail.esm
 26 1a     Better Character Creation.esm
 27 1b     JIP Selective-Fire.esm
 28 1c     More Perks for Old World Blues.esm
 29 1d     More Perks for Companions.esm
 30 1e     Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm
 31 1f     WMVM.esm
 32 20     YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp
 33 21     Unofficial Patch NVSE Plus.esp
 34 22     Better Game Performance.esp
 35 23     Uncut Wasteland.esp
 36 24     FCO - NPC Changes.esp
 37 25     WeaponModsExpanded.esp
 38 26     Unique Items & Collectables.esp
 39 27     ZionTrail-NV.esp
 40 28     FCO - GlowingOne.esp
 41 29     FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp
 42 2a     More Perks Update.esp
 43 2b     AWOP-Roombounds.esp
 44 2c     DMFancyApartment.esp
 45 2d     Bobblehunt - Fallout 3 Bonuses.esp
 46 2e     Bobblehunt.esp
 47 2f     AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp
 48 30     NewVegasBounties.esp
 49 31     NewVegasBountiesII.esp
 50 32     Russell.esp
 51 33     FCO - Russell.esp
 52 34     AWOP-WMX.esp
 53 35     AWOP-FCO3.esp
 54 36     AK47.esp
 55 37     Clarity - Dark Nights.esp
           NewVegasBountiesIII.esp
           TheBetterAngels.esp
 56 38     HDTshop.esp
 57 39     M14.esp
 58 3a     More Perks for Companions Update.esp
 59 3b     More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp
 60 3c     More Traits Update.esp
 61 3d     More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp
 62 3e     More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp
 63 3f     PKM.esp
 64 40     SignatureArmor.esp
 65 41     SignatureWeapons.esp
 66 42     WMX-ModernWeapons.esp
 67 43     AbundantPerks.esp
 68 44     FNV Auto Assault Shotgun.esp
 69 45     bobblehintbooks.esp
 70 46     Enhanced Item Info.esp
 71 47     Resilience Perk - DR Toughness.esp
 72 48     Level100PerkPerLevel.esp
 73 49     Perks for Challenges.esp
 74 4a     The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
 75 4b     BetterWeaponRepairKitRecipe.esp
 76 4c     SnowGlobePerks_SkillsOnly.esp
 77 4d     SnowGlobePerks.esp
 78 4e     ELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.esp
 79 4f     Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp
 80 50     Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp
 81 51     SteadyAimModV1.3.esp
 82 52     Mod Loot - 2. Reasonably Rare.esp
 83 53     BoostedSkills.esp
 84 54     noautoaim.esp
 85 55     MuchNeededLOD.esp
 86 56     MoreLoot.esp
 87 57     Ranger Battle Armor.esp
 88 58     tmzLODadditions.esp
 89 59     FNVLODGen.esp
 90 5a     Altitude.esp
 91 5b     Bashed Patch, 0.esp