HeyYou Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Trouble is, the dems are doing things I VEHEMENTLY disagree with at the moment. So, I will pass on some of my 'freedoms that I want', to avoid having my rights even further restricted by the dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 Trouble is, the dems are doing things I VEHEMENTLY disagree with at the moment. So, I will pass on some of my 'freedoms that I want', to avoid having my rights even further restricted by the dems. What exactly have the democrats "vehemently" done that makes you want to pass on freedoms you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Assorted gun control legislation, that will do nothing for the issues they are putting up as justification for it. REQUIRING me to purchase a product from a private company. Immigration "reform". Etc. I am not going to debate any of these with you though, as it would be pointless, neither of us is going to change the others views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 Assorted gun control legislation, that will do nothing for the issues they are putting up as justification for it. REQUIRING me to purchase a product from a private company. Immigration "reform". Etc. I am not going to debate any of these with you though, as it would be pointless, neither of us is going to change the others views. I respect your views but your right it's hardly the thread to debate all that you have brought up... anyways it would be wise to keep on topic on this thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) This is how the GOP is fighting a "War for women" by trying to push a ban on federal funding assistance to help low income women who seek abortions!?! http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/house-to-vote-next-week-on-abortion-ban-bill/ Beyond going after restricting a women's reproductive rights, how is this type of legislation helpful to attract more female voters? Seems to me like another huge waste of time because this bill will never even be signed into law when and if it would ever reach the presidents desk.... The GOP is on a path to clearly try to lose the female vote as much as possible in this coming election cycle if they are going to try to waste this year pushing this type of legislation, since they have seem to have stopped their "repeal Obamacare" campaign for now.... Taking away healthcare from millions of people would make the party lose control of the house for sure.... Edited January 27, 2014 by colourwheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 The republicans REALLY need to get their heads screwed on tight if they expect to do anything other than be horribly embarrassed in the next election cycle. None of the legislation they think is oh-so-important has a hope in hell of passing. But, they seem to think they need to give the appearance of "doing something", even if they know it is wasted effort. Not like they have to worry about not getting their next paycheck if they don't accomplish anything...... Our government is in serious trouble. BOTH parties have lost their way, and NEITHER party has even the remotest clue on how to salvage the situation. So, they both go along on their merry way, doing the same old things, that they KNOW FOR A FACT don't work, but, gotta be doing something.... right? We are ALL in serious trouble. Our government doesn't care about america anymore. All they care about is getting (re)elected, so they need to keep their campaign contributors happy. You know, the filthy rich folks, and the corporations. We do indeed have the best government money can buy. Only thing is, its more like a lease, as the owners change every two years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizon72 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 What exactly have democrats done to improve women that republicans haven't? Aside from abortion, which I know women on BOTH sides, how are republicans degrading women? I see both sides that degrade a woman who is successful, but that's political, like Palin and Davis (if Palin was liberal the democrats would have loved her and vis-versa with Davis). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) What exactly have democrats done to improve women that republicans haven't? Aside from abortion, which I know women on BOTH sides, how are republicans degrading women? I see both sides that degrade a woman who is successful, but that's political, like Palin and Davis (if Palin was liberal the democrats would have loved her and vis-versa with Davis). From former Rep. Todd Akin of Missouri, who said that abortion in cases of rape was unnecessary because "if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." to Congressman Rep. Steve Pearce who recently published a book last month where he wrote that "a wife must voluntarily submit to her husband", A lot of Republican's make the most sexist and degrading gaffes publicly about women in general. One can only wonder what they must think and say about women in private. It doesn't have much to do with any party trying to "improve women" as it has to do with what one party is trying to do to them. From limiting access to contraceptives to access to abortions from being against legislation to preventing violence against women to women being paid equally in the work place. I think at a subconscious level the issue is deeply embedded in a religious ideology which makes it impossible for the party to get behind trying to actually "improve" a woman's life. I don't want to get into a religious debate here so I will post this article that might help enlighten you on how most people tend to think who make such degrading gaffes about women in politics... http://www.alternet.org/story/154466/15_ways_the_bible_is_used_by_christians_and_the_gop_to_control_and_malign_women Then when you look at the current political environment of the GOP the only thing that seems to really unite all republicans are social policies and issues that 100% degrade women and their rights... http://www.politicususa.com/2012/02/22/republicans-degrade-women.html When a political party has policies which negatively effect any particular demographic group which makes up more than half of the nation, the party has a fundamental ideological problem... Edited February 1, 2014 by colourwheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRoaches Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 From former Rep. Todd Akin of Missouri, who said that abortion in cases of rape was unnecessary because "if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."He is a FORMER Senator, not a spokesperson for the party. Nothing to see here. Congressman Rep. Steve Pearce who recently published a book last month where he wrote that "a wife must voluntarily submit to her husband" That partial quote comes from his memoir, where he was talking about his religious philosophy. Many religious doctrines dictate gender roles, particularly among married couples. He was stating his religious beliefs. He was advocating that all people think this way, and he was not speaking about political policy. Here is some more from that memoir: "“The husband’s part is to show up during the times of deep stress, take the leadership role and be accountable for the outcome, blaming no one else. The wife’s submission is not a matter of superior versus inferior; rather, it is self-imposed as a matter of obedience to the Lord and of love for her husband.” So this person wrote a memoir in which he discusses his religious beliefs, and you have decided to trash those beliefs. You are demonstrating that religious intolerance is the only socially acceptable form of bigotry in modern politics as long as it is directed towards a Christian political enemy. Orthodox Jews hold the exact same belief. Would you like to attack Jack Lew as well for holding those beliefs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Orthodox Jews hold the exact same belief. Would you like to attack Jack Lew as well for holding those beliefs? The difference is Orthodox jews in america are not trying to push their religious belief in legislative policies.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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