Uncontrolled vs free speech

[d4em]

Why in a system of uncontrolled speech (not the same as free speech) misinformation will always win from truthful information

1) Misinformation does not require a rigorous examination of the facts, it is made up. This means that it is far faster and cheaper to develop than information.

2) Truth is often complicated and boring. Misinformation, on the other hand, tends to be easy and captivating, meaning people engage with it more easily.

This means that 1) misinformation can easily swamp out information, and 2) that even if information is present people might display a natural tendency towards misinformation

This misinformation is harmful, and the effect it has on people is often beyond their conscious control. Therefore people must be protected from misinformation.

Free speech in a political sense means having the liberty to speak out against political opponents without fear of being imprisoned and murdered like Navalny. It does not mean having the liberty to slander, threaten, harass, or any other number of crimes.

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I'm going to be reading Foucault soon. He wrote a lot about free speech before he passed away.

Thoughts?

Edited May 4 by d4em

[d4em]

Lack of control is not the same as freedom. An example of someone who is uncontrolled is a drunk, pissing himself at the bus stop near an elementary school at 2 pm. This person is not free.

Theory makes a distinction between negative and positive freedom. Negative freedom is an absence of something, not being forced to do something or not being threatened. Positive freedom on the other hand, is the opportunity to achieve your goals and live a healthy life, like access to good food, education, and healthcare.

Misinformation is both a threat to negative freedom (the involuntary aspect and the lies mean that the target is being forced into something they would not consciously choose) and positive freedom (in order to develop properly and cooperate we need truth). This means that uncontrolled speech is a threat to freedom.

[WansInALayfTaym]

Well given Nexusmods is in the UK, there's no such thing as free speech in this forum. UK law enforcement tend to extend its long arm even on the internet and the admin and moderators are afraid they will get pursued or arrested. Day by day in the UK, the concept of free speech gets thinner and thinner. And in the future, we will all ask ourselves, "the f*#@ happened to UK"?

Does the forum allow profanities even though they're merely an expression and do not target anyone? Are we allowed to criticize the UK government and existing policies? The answer is obvious with all the bans here and there.

Edited May 11 by WansInALayfTaym

[d4em]

Oh, I'm already asking what happened to the UK. Started doing that around brexit.

But saying that the bans are happening because of law enforcement is just speculation if you can't provide a source for it. I browse the takedown forum sometime, I have to agree that the reasons posted there seem legit. This is a gaming community, not twitter (sorry, X, which sounds cool, like all of Musk's ideas until they become reality).

[HeyYou]

Your free speech rights don't apply here in any event. This is a privately owned forum, thus, they get to make the rules. The government has very little, if anything at all, to do with it.