Lighting flicker!

[kaam14]

Hi kaam14 ;)

 

I don't like to write that but you really need to read the descriptions befor installing any mod :)

"As of 4.0.7 This mod (RLO) is no longer compatible with Enhanced Lights and FX"

Additional its like missjennabee mentioned:

Its a game engine limitation: If there are more than 4 lightsources on any mesh (object) you get those flickering.

 

Hope you get solved your issues ;)

I did indeed see that. However even when I uninstall ELFX I still get the flickering issue. And if I uninstall dungeons and interiors for RLO so that it would be compatible with ELFX the problem still occurs. So it's not a compatibility problem. I only use one or the other for each interior type. Never both.

[LeAwesomeFace]

If I reinstalled the loose files version of CoT (which I think might be it) and then the loose files of the other lighting mods could whatever needs to be overwritten be overwritten or would that not solve anything? I'll still post my load order and mods list before I do anything though.

 

That wouldn't do anything. The bottom line is RLO and ELFX are incompatible and can't work together, period.You've got to choose one or the other.

[kaam14]

Here is my load order (recognized from BOSS) Sorry for spamming. Also I just uninstalled RLO and reinstalled ELFX and I still have the flickering issue...

 

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Edited January 30, 2014 by kaam14

[missjennabee]

So.. just to confirm, this happens when you use ELFX, RLO or CoT alone?

 

Where, specifically, is this happening - Can you give me the name of a cell you're having an issue with? (i.e. Sleeping Giant Inn, etc.)

[kaam14]

I first noticed it in Ustengrav. It's never outside just in interiors. I wish I could be of more help. When I turn elfx off it drastically lessens how noticeable it is but it's still there. And yes it happens when I use any of them alone. Which leads me to believe it's not any of them at all. Edited January 30, 2014 by kaam14

[kaam14]

It's basically happening everywhere though.

[LeAwesomeFace]

Like we've said before it's an engine issue and we all have to deal with it (Bethesda would have to rebuild the lighting system to fix it). I find that with RLO it happens less, though I use an ENB so maybe I don't notice it because of the much more refined shadows.

 

You CAN use Climates of Tamriel + RLO or CoT + ELFX. You just can't use ELFX and RLO at the same time.

[kaam14]

I'm currently only using RLO and CoT. I'm also using an ENB...however it is still noticeable and in places it wasn't before. Even when I'm only looking at a single light

[LeAwesomeFace]

I'm currently only using RLO and CoT. I'm also using an ENB...however it is still noticeable and in places it wasn't before. Even when I'm only looking at a single light

 

It doesn't have to do with the lights themselves but the light sources. The Creation Engine only allows for 4 light sources at a time. Any more than that and Skyrim picks the first light you aren't looking at and disables it.