Lag/random freezing/random CTDs

[WhiskeyRiver2]

For the past couple days, I've been getting seemingly random freezes/CTDs (the freezes occasionally lead to CTDs, other times I have to do a hard shutdown), as well as lag whenver I pick up an item from the world (i.e taking the Doctor's Bag in Doc Mitchell's house).

 

It started after I installed either Mojave Reloaded or Factions Reloaded - Followers (not sure which, because I installed them at the same time), but deactivating either or both of them doesn't fix the issue.

 

Does anyone know what could be causing this? I don't think I'm overloading my rig, and I only have about 63 mods loaded.

 

 

Load order:

 

 

FalloutNV.esm
CaravanPack.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
WMVM.esm
Afterschool Special.esm
Project Nevada - Core.esm
Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp
Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp
Project Nevada - Equipment.esm
mojavereloaded1.esp
NevadaSkies.esm
Factions Reloaded Legion.esp
5.56DTBalance.esp
CNR_Beta.esp
Stg44.esp
De Lisle Commando.esp
M1 Carbine.esp
Stg45 Falken Auge.esp
WeaponModsExpanded.esp
WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp
WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp
WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp
WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp
WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp
WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp
WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp
WMX-DeadMoney.esp
WMX-HonestHearts.esp
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
VendorBulkBuyFixer.esp
Primm Reborn.esp
Novac Reborn.esp
HK Uniform.esp
HK Springfield M1903 w Upgrades.esp
Mosin Nagant M28.esp
Henry Rifle Sniper.esp
The Devils Hand.esp
CourierCacheWSE.esp
M37Ithaca.esp
Mosin Nagant Pack.esp
HK Rifle Pack Modular.esp
HK Kar98k pack.esp
G3SG1.esp
Mateba.esp
HKUSP45.esp
1911.45ACP.esp
B92FS.esp
L96.esp
factions reloaded followers.esp
Kriss.esp
ADAM - Outcast Ranger Armour.esp
ADAM - Nemesis Armours.esp
ADAM - NCR Patrol Armour.esp
ADAM - Trooper Gloves.esp
ADAM - MAIN.esp
ADAM - HH.esp
ADAM - LR.esp
ADAM - Rangers on Patrol.esp
ADAM - Project Nevada Patch.esp
MP5A4 and SWAT Gear.esp
Dry Wells.esp
MAS36.esp
Simonov PTRS 41M.esp
NevadaSkies - Winter Edition.esp
The Law Won.esp
Nuclear Winter.esp
NCRTrooperOverhaul.esp

Total active plugins: 74
Total plugins: 74

[camaro_69_327]

Try BOSS to sort that load order. ESP's mixed in with ESM's....all ESM's should be listed first..

 

Try NVAC to see if it helps with the crashing, then you can post the NVAC log in the post section for NVAC it may point to something...

 

BOSS = Better Oblivion Sorting Software (but works for all Bethesda games.

NVAC = New Vegas Anti Crash.

[WhiskeyRiver2]

-facedesk- why didn't I think of that.... I'll give that a shot, see what happens. Didn't even think of the .esp/.esm thing - shows how much I know about the intricacies of modding >.>

 

 

Edit: Played with my load order a bit, got rid of -most- of the lag and freezing.

 

For the .esp/.esm grouping, do I go by the header, or what the file is actually marked as in FOMM? Some of the Project Nevada plugins (Rebalance and Cyberware) are labeled .esp, but according to FOMM they have .esm headers. Same for the Mojave Reloaded plugin.

Edited January 31, 2014 by WhiskeyRiver2

[camaro_69_327]

This is my Load Order as set by BOSS (with a few edits of my own) this from WryeFlashNV<<<<best of the Best for mod Manager!! I highlighted PN (Project Nevada) in the ESM section and where BOSS put the ESP's.

Active Mod Files:

00 falloutnv.esm

01 DeadMoney.esm

02 HonestHearts.esm

03 OldWorldBlues.esm

04 LonesomeRoad.esm

05 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

06 ClassicPack.esm

07 MercenaryPack.esm

08 TribalPack.esm

09 CaravanPack.esm

0A YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

0B Ambient Temperature.esm

0C Advanced Recon Tech.esm

0D Caliber.esm

0E CaliberXhonesthearts.esm

0F CaliberXgunrunners.esm

10 Detect Traps.esm

11 Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm [Version 6.6]

12 Mo'.esm

13 AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

14 NevadaSkies.esm

15 NVInteriors_Core.esm

16 NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

17 Project Nevada - Core.esm<<<<<<PN

18 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm<<<<PN

19 Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm<<<<PN

1A ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

1B ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

1C oHUD.esm

1D UWHNV-Core.esm

1E New Vegas Redesigned II.esm

1F Lings.esm

20 MikotoBeauty.esm

21 DarNifiedUINV.esp

22 Centered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.esp

23 The Mod Configuration Menu.esp [Version 1.5]

24 UHNV.esp

25 UHNV-Dead Money.esp

26 UHNV-Honest Hearts.esp

27 UHNV-OWB.esp

28 UHNV-Lonesome Road.esp

29 UHNV-More Mannequins.esp

2A UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp

2B UWHNV-Addon-GRA.esp

2C UWHNV-Addon-FollowerHome.esp

2D Mo'Guns.esp

2E Mo'Gals.esp

2F Mo'Suite.esp

30 Mo'IPP.esp

31 Mo'haveAmmoDepot.esp

32 Mo'DLC.esp

33 Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp<<<<<PN

34 Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp<<<<PN

35 Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp<<<<PN

36 Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp<<<<PN

37 Project Nevada - All DLC.esp<<<<PN

++ Detect Traps - Perk.esp

38 Detect Traps - Traponator 4000.esp

39 Detect Traps - DLC.esp

3A Advanced Recon Gear.esp

3B Advanced Recon Riot Gear Helmet.esp

3C Advanced Recon Tech.esp

++ Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp

3D 1nivVSLArmors.esp [Version 1.2]

3E 1nivPNSLPatch.esp [Version 1.2]

3F Advanced Recon Armor.esp

40 Advanced Recon Desert Ranger Helmet.esp

41 Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp

42 Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp

43 FlashlightNVSE.esp

44 josexysleepwear.esp

45 Neckchains.esp

46 Sack of Holding-NV.esp [Version 1.0.0]

++ LingsPrettyThings.esp

++ NVR- Recommended.esp

47 New Vegas redesigned- Honest Hearts.esp

++ Voice dissonance fix.esp

48 AWOPDeadMoney.esp

49 AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp

4A AWOP-BOEWeaponPatch.esp

++ AWOP-BOE-DLC.esp

4B AWOPCaliberXAmmoPatch.esp

4C JIP Companions Command & Control.esp

4D NVWillow.esp

4E Mo'Willow.esp

4F SunnyCompanion.esp

50 Mo'SunnyCompanion.esp

51 DriveableMotorCycle.esp

** MiscItemIconsNV.esp

52 ShilohDS-Color Maps and Icons.esp

53 dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

++ dD-More Gore.esp

54 Imp's More Complex Needs.esp

55 Ambient Temperature - IMCNNV.esp

56 IMCNNV - HUD and Hotkeys.esp

57 WeaponModsExpanded.esp

58 EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

59 WMX-DeadMoney.esp

5A WMX-HonestHearts.esp

5B WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

5C WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

5D WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

** WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

5E WMX-POPMerged.esp

++ Mo'Guns_WMX.esp

++ AWOP-BOE-WMX.esp

5F Mo'Guns_WMX_DLC.esp

++ WMX-EVE-AllDLC.esp

60 Vurt's WFO.esp

61 NevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.esp

62 Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp [Version 6.6]

++ ILO - PipBoy Light.esp [Version 1.0]

63 ILO - NVInteriors Project.esp [Version 1.5]

64 ILO - A World of Pain.esp [Version 1.2]

65 ELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.esp

66 MikotoBeauty.esp

67 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Don't recall if i made BOSS move any PN mods around (editing master list) I will check , i have to run Boss , its log will show me my Edits...as a note.

Mods with ++ are merged into Bash_patch and don't count toward the Mod limit. So I am at 107 mods instead of 117!

Mods with ** are .... Have no_merge tag. and are Imported into Bash_patch.

Game time so far with this setup is around 30 hrs and longest straight run is currently 7 hours. Weekend is here and since this is stable i will more then likely beat that time, Shooting for 8+ hours tomorrow!

[WhiskeyRiver2]

I actually gave up screwing with BOSS. Kinda hard to figure it out when you haven't slept in 36 hours, and now I'm too lazy to bother.

 

For now, gonna keep fiddling with my load order, see if I can figure this out myself.