Bleeding Legos

Duthos1 · July 16, 2009

So one of my mod, MMM I think, has it so that when a character is hurt enough they bleed profusely, and usually try to escape. Problem is the blood does not look like blood, usually blue or purple squares.

Breaks immersion pretty quick. I have since installed two mods to alter the way blood splatters on walls and in the air, and both these effects look great, but the bleed still looks like crap. I found no other mods for that bleed effect, nor any other replacers. Any suggestions?

CyanideCloud · July 16, 2009

Sounds like you are missing textures for blood I think... I could be wrong.

Also, I don't think it is MMM that's causing this, its probably OOO, do you have OOO?

Could you post your mod list / load order?

Duthos1 · July 16, 2009

Sorry about that, I had thought I would likely just be overwriting something.

Here is my list;

Active Mod Files:

00 Oblivion.esm

01 ScreenEffects.esm

02 AWS-Core.esm

03 EnhancedWeather.esm [Version 1.3.6]

04 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

05 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.71]

07 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b1]

09 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]

0A FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

0B Armamentarium.esm

0C ArmamentariumFran.esm

0D Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

0E AFC v2 Core.esm

0F Oblivion Gate Tower.esp

++ Faction_Rank_Fix-5862.esp

++ Grove of Reflection Fix.esp

++ Loading Screens - Vanilla No Text.esp

10 boethia custom race.esp

11 RealDiseases.esp

12 Armor of Gaia.esp

13 BloodSpray.esp

++ HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp

14 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]

15 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

16 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.3.0]

17 SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.05]

18 Oblivion.esp

19 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

1A Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

1B Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp

++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

1C FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

1D Fran Armor Add-on.esp

1E AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp

1F Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

20 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

21 AFC v2 Combo Chains.esp

22 AFC v2 Combat Moves.esp

23 AFC v2 Locational Damage.esp

24 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

25 P1DmenuEscape.esp

26 Update My Statue.esp [Version 1.30]

27 Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp [Version 1.1.0]

28 Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp

29 DLCHorseArmor.esp

2A DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

2B SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11]

2C DLCOrrery.esp

2D DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]

2E SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11]

2F DLCVileLair.esp

30 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

31 SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.11]

32 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

33 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

34 SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.11]

35 DLCSpellTomes.esp

++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

36 ExnemEyeCandy.esp

37 BlackLuster.esp

38 Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

39 New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

** StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp

3A Volcano in the Twilight.esp

** Armamentium female.esp

3B Slof's Horses HA Essential.esp

3C DLCThievesDen.esp

3D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

3E SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.11]

3F KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2]

++ FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9]

40 ExnemRuneskulls.esp

++ FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

41 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

42 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.69]

43 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

44 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.41]

++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]

45 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

46 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

47 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]

48 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

49 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]

4A Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp

4B ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp

4C FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

4D FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

4E FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9]

4F Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b1]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b1]

50 Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp [Version 3.7b1]

51 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b2]

52 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b2]

53 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]

54 TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c]

55 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]

56 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]

++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp [Version 2]

57 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]

58 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]

59 TIE In.esp [Version 1.07]

++ TIE In - ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 1.07]

++ TIE In - Cobl.esp [Version 1.07]

5A TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp [Version 1.07]

++ TIE In - RealSwords.esp [Version 1.07]

++ TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 1.07]

++ TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 1.07]

++ TIE In - Armors lite.esp [Version 1.07]

5B TIE In - Game Settings.esp [Version 1.07]

++ TIE In - Sounds.esp [Version 1.07]

++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp

++ Fransfemale.esp

5C OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]

5D AlchemistsCave-COBL.esp

5E Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

5F Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp

60 za_bankmod.esp

61 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

62 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

63 BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp

64 SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp [Version 1.11]

65 Artificerens Battlehorn Coblized.esp

66 DLCFrostcrag.esp

67 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

68 SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.09]

69 Knights.esp

6A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]

++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06]

++ TIE In - Knights.esp [Version 1.06]

++ DLC_MOBS.esp

++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp [Version 0.9.9]

6B Slofs Elaborate Robe Exnemized - EV.esp

++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]

6C Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

6D Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

6E Birthsigns Expanded.esp [Version 3.]

6F P1DKeychain for COBL.esp [Version 4.21]

++ P1DkeyExtraMouseButton.esp

70 Quest Award Leveling SI.esp

71 Quest Award Leveller.esp

++ Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp

++ Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp

++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp

++ Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

72 RealisticForceMedium.esp

73 GalerionSlowerLeveling-v10.esp

74 MidasSpells.esp

75 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.89]

76 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]

77 SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]

78 SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]

79 SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]

7A SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]

7B SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]

7C SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]

7D StealthOverhaul.esp

7E RenGuardOverhaul.esp

7F RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

80 AttributeInfluenceSkill.esp

81 Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp

82 AFLevelMod.esp

++ _No__persistant_enchantment_glow_fix-1843.esp

83 Visually Enchanted Drains 1.esp

84 Visually Enchanted SoulTrap 1.esp

85 Visual Enchantments v1.0.esp

++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]

86 Beautiful People.esp

87 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

88 Streamline 3.1.esp

dezdimona · July 16, 2009

try adjusting your load order, blood trail is OOO

General Load-Order Guidelines

Here are the guidelines that I adhere to, personally.

~ Unofficial Oblivon Patch should always be first on the list. The fixes are great, but most aren't essential, so if a mod overwrites them its not a big deal, and the fixes have the potential for screwing up other mods if loaded later.

~ Offical Content (DLC's) should be loaded last, until you complete all quests associated with them (that includes buying all furniture for the houses and whatnot). Once they're complete, they can be safely moved up in the list. This is especially important for Knights of the Nine, which will have some fairly major problems unless loaded last (unless you get the UOP for KotN)

~ Major overhaul mods (OOO, Frans, MMM) should be loaded near the end. That gives you the most complete experience with any of those particular mods. It also lets you carefully choose which other mods to load afterwards... only move mods that you know will conflict and that you want the changes from. For example, I have Improved Soul Gems below OOO because I know that OOO changes the icons of some of the SG's, and ISG needs to be below to show through.

Some people will recommend putting larger mods first, but personally I disagree. There are a number of mods out there that make minor tweaks, and loading after a large mod will end up completely overwriting a chunk from one of the bigger mods because of the way conflicts work in Oblivion (even one minor change will take precedence over the entire record... for example, simply tweaking the speed of a weapon can cause every stat of that weapon to be retained to vanilla levels if loaded later).

So basically, it stacks up like this...

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch

<DLC's (Pre-Completion)>

Note: If using Mayu's Overhaul Mod. I recommend loading it after OOO or MMM

Expanded Load-Order Guidelines

by dev_akm

I would extend this to include:

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch

<DLC's (Pre-Completion)>

And a special-case warning for Knights.esp (Knights of the Nine) -- you may not be able to move it earlier than some other mods (some people have had problems after moving it before OOO, for example).

That's basically the structure I use and I have 140+ mods working well together.

Another way of describing this (posted by DMan77):

....

Oblivion

unoffical patch

Deeper realism mods that add sights and sounds

added content like weapons/items

gameplay changes, like 'must eat and sleep'

The OOO type

the 'new begining' type mod..

Duthos1 · July 16, 2009

Heh.

Ye know dez, you have said that same thing to me about five times I think.

I use boss to order my mods, and they all seem to be working except for that blood thing. But knowing it is OOO may help me solve it.

dezdimona · July 16, 2009

Heh.

Ye know dez, you have said that same thing to me about five times I think.

I use boss to order my mods, and they all seem to be working except for that blood thing. But knowing it is OOO may help me solve it.

sorry hon,but boss is not perfect. I'll try to remember not to give you that load order again...lol

Duthos1 · July 16, 2009

No worries, the last thing I am gonna tell ya is to stop trying to help people ;p

My point was that I think my load order is pretty near polished, but if you see something in specific I outta move to avoid this blood glitch, I am all ears.

Duthos1 · July 16, 2009

Yay!

I have fixed it. simply by copying the blood02.dds from textures/effects into textures/effects/mmm and overwriting the one that was there, I have proper bleeding effects.

I think I actually have my game completed and ready to play. Woot!!

dezdimona · July 16, 2009

Yay!

I have fixed it. simply by copying the blood02.dds from textures/effects into textures/effects/mmm and overwriting the one that was there, I have proper bleeding effects.

I think I actually have my game completed and ready to play. Woot!!

awesome!!!!!

Duthos1 · July 16, 2009

Suppose it is the nature of the beast.... you think it is complete and you find another problem.

I thought I had addressed this before, but I have the wrong meshes for 'thin black leather' peices of gear I use (exnem's body) and I simply cannot figure out which of my mods has it.

I have installed the exnem meshes for all the armor kits, and I am at a loss as to where they are coming from. Hell, a "thin black leather" + oblivion search givees me nothing even on yahoo.

ARRGH! What mod has these in it?

Edit - Haha, as I was bitching here, another was answering this in my other thread XD.

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