The year 3000

[Heretic666]

The year 3000 is destined to go in billions of directions not all very pleasant but I dont know, there may even be things outside of human reckoning that could happen... strange...

[Aflame]

IF we human keep harming the planet like this, I think when it's 3000, most of the people will disappear.

[shandrill]

In the year 3000 I expect it to be a time where humans have implemented technology which allows us to function in a way that doesn't drain the planet so badly, possibly a new energy or a new way to use energy. All may laugh but I do see the technology for travel into space, too many great minds are already working on it and many more will come in the future especially after a couple of hundred years of technology development.

 

I think though before we get to the year 3000 the earth would have gone through a difficult period of readjustment of war, famine close to a global scale and a period of putting the climate back together (which will not happen until it reaches a critical level) , due to resource depletion. Out of this I see a stronger race under a global government. I think that humans will have the opportunity to replace organs that fail with either created organic replacements or bionic ones. While it may prolong our lives for a bit I don't see the average human living too long past 100 y/o as even replacing bits n pieces it wont be possible to replace everything and humans do come with a used by date.

 

I do believe that we are not the only sentient being in the Universe however, I don't think we will have a relationship with them maybe just a knowledge that their out there.

 

I also think that we will have a much better understanding of our universe and how it was put together and with this knowledge there is no end to the possibilities.

 

The truth will probably be so incredible that even our most ridiculous predictions will fall a long way short. I mean after all could you imagine someone predicting something as common place and simple to understand as sending information around the world using radio waves? Or someone predicting that all our food will be bought in one place or that an average family home will have more than 5 rooms even 200 years ago? Let alone tv the internet, and all the amazing things that have been discovered and invented.

 

What I wouldn't give for a time machine right now lol.

 

Tessa.

[hoots7]

QUOTE(Switch @ Aug 10 2005, 07:50 AM)

Although I'm not sure we'll last that long... not because of technology but for other reasons that aren't allowed to be discussed here. ^^;

I hear ya, but I don't dread it at all.

 

By the way, I realize that there is a high US population on this forum, and something like 90% of you are dumb enough to reject evolution (I know, the US sucks, I'm embarassed to live here) and will likely rush to disagree with my point about natural selection. Let me just state that evolution is the best-case scenario for the matrix fanboys. Lets say we reject all of science, and arbitrarily declare that "god did it". Now we're in an even worse position, because creating human-level intelligence (mandatory for the matrix) requires an omnipotent god. Since it is highly doubtful that humans will achieve divine status within the next 993 years, it's a safe bet that we will not be able to reproduce Genesis and simply wish our matrix into existence.

I couldn't agree more, except that i have a hard time believing we came from primates. The whole missing link thing lends itself fairly well to reasonable doubt. Though divine intervention is significantly less plausible. Just call me a disbeliever.

Just a note to Switch/Dark0ne: I know you can't stand the fact that I'm an atheist, but this has nothing to do with religion. RedPlague explicitly stated that he's not talking about divine intervention, and neither am I. So don't even think of deleting this post. Now then...

Not True, Atheism is a religion.

That's a common misconception: we didn't evolve from primates, humans and primates both evolved from a common ancestor.

This statement is true to the Darwinist theory; they point this out a lot so that they don't sound so foolish.

And the evidence is unarguable,

“unarguable” this is a lie, to use this word is a deliberate deception to the post readers.

we share an incredibly high percentage of our genes with primates.

“share” another deceptive word used to infer an automatic link, organisms can not share genes, they need their own, their parents can copy their genes to their children but they don’t actually share them. Peregrine should have said we have common genes.

Even ignoring the fossil record,

Peregrine & many other Darwinist, Neo-Darwinist and Evolutionist ignore the fossil record in decisions these days because it has just not panned out for them. We have found millions of fossils and in that a handful has come close to supporting the theory.

[n00biepl0x]

QUOTE(Switch @ Aug 10 2005, 07:50 AM)

Although I'm not sure we'll last that long... not because of technology but for other reasons that aren't allowed to be discussed here. ^^;

I hear ya, but I don't dread it at all.

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Me neither, I don't think Earth will miss us humans being here. I don't think Earth would do worse without us.

[hoots7]

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it's easy to trace back these genetic similarities and contruct an approximate evolutionary tree for pretty much any species.

It may be “easy” if you start with preconceived Evolution ideas, but it’s not if you are doing straightforward scientific investigation

 

We know what genes we have in common, we know the approximate mutation rate,

Today “We know what genes we have in common” we do not know about or can't calculate mutation rates of things we have not discovered from the past.

 

we know the structural similarities, etc. The only "doubt" comes from creationists who reject the entire concept of science and empiricism.

Wrong, doubt also comes from Archeologist, Astronomers, Astrophysicists, Biologist, Botanist, Chemist, Mathematicians and other scientist.

While yes indeed Creationist are represented in the fields of science there are also non-creationist as well like Albert Einstein, a Theist.

 

Shame on you Peregrine, you knew from our discussions that what you wrote was not true.

Example: "Dec. 10, 2004 - Antony Flew, the British scholar who for years has been the world's most noteworthy philosophical proponent of atheism, has conceded that scientific evidence points to the existence of God."

Later in the interview he critiques Richard Dawkins his old fellow atheist.

He is not a Creationist he is a Theist, yet you say “The only "doubt" comes from creationists who reject the entire concept of science and empiricism” shame on you.

 

But the whole "missing link" thing is just a giant appeal to ignorance fallacy. Think about it for a moment... lets take two species, modern humans and the common ape/human ancestor. There's a gap, your so-called missing link. Now lets say a record of an intermediate species is found, call it Species A. The gap-ist's response would be "now there are TWO gaps!" (instead of human-ancestor, now we have ancestor-A, A-human), considering the overall theory twice as weak, not better supported. Now lets say another species, Species B is found, filling the gap between A-human. Now we have three "missing links" (ancestor-A, A-B, B-human) to deal with. I think you can see the pattern... unless we have a record of every individual organism between the ancestor and modern humans, there's always going to be a "missing link" you can point to.

This is an excellent statement, seems very logical, if only it were true it would be perfect.

 

 

And this is exactly what we should expect. Fossils only form under very specific and rare conditions, the majority of organisms simply die and are lost forever. Now consider the incredibly tiny percentage of the planet's surface we've searched for fossils. How many "missing links" are somewhere in a vast wilderness waiting to be found? How many "missing links" have been paved over to build another parking lot? How many "missing links" have been imperfectly fossilized and exist only as fragments or mis-identified random bones?

Guess you haven’t read my email to you yet were I point out that this is very convenient and also circular reasoning, i.e. “the Evolutionist have no evidence just like they expected so that proves they are right”.

 

So in summary, not only does the proof for primates and humans sharing a common ancestor exist, but the only counter-argument is completely fallacious.

The Theory you believe in is loosing more ground & credibility each day, more and more scientist are having the courage to stand up & refute this fairytale.

 

Descent from Darwinism Link http://www.reviewevolution.com/press/press...0Scientists.php

 

A Scientific Dissent on Darwinism

 

"I am skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged."

 

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If you want to talk about it go to Peregrine's link (eddited) http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=37134

[Abramul]

Peregrine is trying to revive interest on this old issue because his post is dead, if you want to talk about it go to his post.

Here is the link http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=37134

What bizarre definition of 'revive' are you using?

[Stampede]

Peregrine is trying to revive interest on this old issue because his post is dead, if you want to talk about it go to his post.

Here is the link http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=37134

What bizarre definition of 'revive' are you using?

 

Indeed, I was confused about that as well.

[hoots7]

Peregrine is trying to revive interest on this old issue because his post is dead, if you want to talk about it go to his post.

Here is the link http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=37134

What bizarre definition of 'revive' are you using?

 

Indeed, I was confused about that as well.

Revive; like in bring back to life.

Peregrine likes to talk about Evolution and since his thread is not popular anymore he brings it up on other threads.

I will try to make this the last time I talk about it on this thread.

If anyone wants to contact me about it please feel free to do so, I’ll be more than happy to discuss it with you.

-H

[Abramul]

Revive; like in bring back to life.

Peregrine likes to talk about Evolution and since his thread is not popular anymore he brings it up on other threads.

I will try to make this the last time I talk about it on this thread.

If anyone wants to contact me about it please feel free to do so, I’ll be more than happy to discuss it with you.

-H

I supposed that you would have noticed that the 'Evolution' thread was created 2 days after the post you quoted. Apparently, this was not the case.