Weird Freezes and Crashes

[ADD1CTEDGAM3R]

Hey, everyone.

 

I'm having some rather peculiar issues with my game that I'm hoping to get resolved. Take a look through the list below for more information.

 

1) Whenever encountering a loading screen (when entering or exiting buildings for example), the in-game loading wheel (the roulette wheel) will freeze, the blue "Windows not responding wheel" (http://www.anicursor.com/aerobusy.gif) pops up for a few seconds, and then the game finishes loading (the loading screen disappears and it goes back into the actual game).

 

2) Occasionally when pressing ESC to open the pause menu, the game will freeze for a few seconds, where the blue "Windows not responding" wheel pops up, and then the menu will open as normal.

 

3) Occasionally the "program has stopped working window" (http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/virtualearth/WindowsLiveWriter/VirtualEarth3DInstallIssuewithWindows7_7E86/image_thumb.png) will pop up (the one where it says it's checking for a solution to the problem, and has a cancel button that you can click). When this happens, sometimes I can click the cancel button and the game will keep working as normal, and other times it will crash when I click it. This happens a lot when I get killed, and is often accompanied by the "stuck audio" bug where the audio stutters the last sound to be played, and I have to go into the Device Manager to disable and enable my sound card in order to get the sound loop to stop, and my audio to function properly again.

 

I don't know what is causing these issues, but it's incredibly annoying, and quite game-breaking. If I need to take pictures or videos to help show what is happening, I can try to do so if it will help with the troubleshooting. In the meantime, attached are the specs of my PC, my current list of installed mods, and my load order.

 

Please, please help me get this fixed! I don't want to lose my save, as I'm pretty far into the game. :sad:

 

Thanks!

 

P.S. - Some of the mods in my load order (New Varmint Rifle.esp and New Cowboy Repeater.esp) are simple mods I made to change those weapons to use other in-game models so I could add different weapon mods to them. For example, I made the Cowboy Repeater use the Trail Carbine NIF files so I can add the Trail Carbine scope to it, as well as the Sniper Rifle Suppressor. I don't think these would be the issue.

 

P.P.S. - I forgot to mention that I use the 4GB Fallout: New Vegas mod, New Vegas Stutter Remover, Darnified UI, and I launch through the Fake Fullscreen Windowed Mode mod launcher.

[camaro_69_327]

ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channel = make sure the Game thing is not ticked in the Xonar software. I cant give specific name as i dont use the Xonar Drivers any more, i use the UNI-Driver for my ASUS Xonar Essence STX.

 

1) Windows thinks the Game is taking to long and is not responsive.

2) same as above.

3) That's a crash, the Audio thing i was also getting, till i uninstalled the official Xonar Drivers, and installed the unofficial UNI-driver/c-media. (The game thing, (eax?) can cause this also , on the right side of the Xonar software window you see a bunch of icons in a circle one of them has to do with "Game" if its on turn it OFF , visea versea.

 

Do you have to run in a window? Think 1 and 2 would just be because the game is in a window? The game runs great without the fake window stuff.

Open stutter remover.ini (\data\nvse\plugins) make sure "bReplaceHeap =" is set to 0 (OFF) so would be>>bReplaceHeap = 0 (it says in the INI that its not supported and I can say for certain that if ON (1) it will cause you to freeze/crash.

 

I see you cleaned the DLC"s, nice (well at least BOSS thinks you did) I don't see a "merge patch" or a "Bashed Patch, 0.esp" i would think you need one with this list.

Doesn't FOOK and PN need the convergence thing to play nice together. I don't run FOOK so have no incites to that.

 

Take advantage of those "BASH tags" that BOSS says by installing WryeflashNV and building a Bashed Patch. I swear by it and wouldn't run the game without it.

 

These both say active??

fnvrwlo - original.esp Active

* Note: Use only one FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting

fnvrwlo - brighter nights.esp Active

* Note: Use only one FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting

I don't use the above mod but Boss says only one...lol

By the way nice Monitor and Case. I have the HAF X and love it . The ASUS is one crisp monitor !!.. :smile:

[ADD1CTEDGAM3R]

ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channel = make sure the Game thing is not ticked in the Xonar software. I cant give specific name as i dont use the Xonar Drivers any more, i use the UNI-Driver for my ASUS Xonar Essence STX.

 

1) Windows thinks the Game is taking to long and is not responsive.

2) same as above.

3) That's a crash, the Audio thing i was also getting, till i uninstalled the official Xonar Drivers, and installed the unofficial UNI-driver/c-media. (The game thing, (eax?) can cause this also , on the right side of the Xonar software window you see a bunch of icons in a circle one of them has to do with "Game" if its on turn it OFF , visea versea.

 

Do you have to run in a window? Think 1 and 2 would just be because the game is in a window? The game runs great without the fake window stuff.

Open stutter remover.ini (\data\nvse\plugins) make sure "bReplaceHeap =" is set to 0 (OFF) so would be>>bReplaceHeap = 0 (it says in the INI that its not supported and I can say for certain that if ON (1) it will cause you to freeze/crash.

 

I see you cleaned the DLC"s, nice (well at least BOSS thinks you did) I don't see a "merge patch" or a "Bashed Patch, 0.esp" i would think you need one with this list.

Doesn't FOOK and PN need the convergence thing to play nice together. I don't run FOOK so have no incites to that.

 

Take advantage of those "BASH tags" that BOSS says by installing WryeflashNV and building a Bashed Patch. I swear by it and wouldn't run the game without it.

 

These both say active??

fnvrwlo - original.esp Active

* Note: Use only one FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting

fnvrwlo - brighter nights.esp Active

* Note: Use only one FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting

I don't use the above mod but Boss says only one...lol

 

By the way nice Monitor and Case. I have the HAF X and love it . The ASUS is one crisp monitor !!.. :smile:

1. I'm not sure what you mean by the audio settings, so I'll just post my current settings in the DGX Audio Center application.

 

Audio Channels: 2

Sample Rate: PCM 96 KHz

Analog Out: FP Headphone

7.1 Virtual Speaker Shifter enabled; left on default settings.

Dolby Headphone enabled; set to DH-1, "Reference Room" for less echoing sound.

 

2. The reason I run the game in windowed mode and use the Fake Fullscreen mod is because Gopher recommended it in his Modding Fallout New Vegas series. He claims it improves performance. I've actually never tried switching to regular fullscreen mode and using the 4GB launcher...

 

3. I don't know why it thinks both of those Realistic Lighting files are active; only one of them is. EDIT: Oh, I see why. Apparently I somehow uploaded my old BOSS log somehow? I have no idea how that happened, but I've attached the REAL, NEW BOSS log to the first post. Take a look at it now. You'll see FNVRWL isn't even installed anymore (I switched to Nevada Skies). I also have the uncleaned DLC masters now (did a Verify Game Cache in Steam).

 

4. I never saw mention of any "convergence thing" on the Project Nevada or FOOK pages.

 

5. I still don't fully understand what this whole "Bashed Patch" thing is all about.

[camaro_69_327]

Wrye is not as important to Fallout as it is to say Oblivion or Skyrim. A bashed patch merges a lot of things together that would not normally get to exist in a game.

 

Lets say we have 2 mods, mod A changes the Hair of an NPC and only the hair. And mod B changes the face, eyes, inventory, class , mouth , teeth and Voice.

 

IF we load mod A before mod b we get everything from mod B. (last loading wins) and the hair is not changed.

IF we load mod B first and MOD A last then we only get the Hair. and you lose everything from MOD B.

 

What the Bashed patch (or a merged patch from FNVEdit) will do is combine both mods and we get everything. This is why load order is important.

The "TAGS" you see from BOSS tell Wrye what is important. These things will get blended...lol

 

ITs either called "GX" or "DX" mode. In the Xonar sound software.

" For those of you with Xonar soundcards you need to disable DX mode on the bottom right side in the Xonar audio center"

 

This is known to cause crashes.

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/Audio_Card/Xonar_DGX/E7798_Xonar_DGX.pdf

section 6.9 Page 44 if that's your software its the Icon on the Right. :smile:

Wow teh forum really messed that link...think its working now...

EDIT"

4) 4. I never saw mention of any "convergence thing" on the Project Nevada or FOOK pages.>>>http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/54398/?

Edited February 8, 2014 by camaro_69_327

[ADD1CTEDGAM3R]

Ah, okay. Then no, I don't have the "GX" mode enabled. The modes I have down in that bottom-right corner are HF and GX, both of which are disabled. So, I don't think that is causing any of the problems.

 

I don't currently have the Convergence Patch, but I just downloaded and installed it. I think I need some of the other files from the mod as well; the New Vegas Redesigned 2 and WMX compatibility patches, as I have both of those mods installed, and you apparently need those if you want to use them with this Convergence Patch. To me, that actually seems pretty stupid though; it's just adding in a bunch more ESP files to your load order, and there's a 140 file limit...

 

So, do I NEED this Wyre Bash thing, or not? It still doesn't make complete sense to me, and I'd probably screw something up, lol.

[camaro_69_327]

in my game....Wrye (the bashed patch) makes 7119 edits. Yes 2000 of the edits are because i let Wrye do Item sorting, the rest are edits that are blending things together. I don't think i could run any of the Bethesda games without Wrye.

 

13 of my mods are merged into the patch so they don't count toward the mod limit.

 

Then again i game hard , I have run FalloutNV for over 7 hours straight and no crash , in 40 game hours i have very few crashes, most of those i would say are from me pushing it way to hard...lol

 

This is what Wrye does for my game.

my installers 47/96

Bain Packages:

000 - ==End Projects==

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++ 005 - NMCs Textures NV MEDIUM Pack Part 2 of 2 FOR NMM -43135-1-0.7z (F74A440D) (Installed)

++ 006 - Sack of Holding-NV-36804-1-1.7z (59A927BA) (Installed)

++ 007 - Improved LOD noise Texture-46451-V1-00.7z (FB32ADA8) (Installed)

++ 008 - Wasteland Flora Overhaul v2dot8a - Fertile Version-39856-2-8a.7z (3DC0132E) (Installed)

++ 009 - Enhanced Blood Textures_-34917-v2-22c.7z (B877FC58) (Installed)

++ 010 - Omnis Hi-res Pip-Boy 3000 v1-0-39859-1.7z (8731F71E) (Installed)

++ 011 - v5 Main Sleepwear File-43130-5.7z (DC7BBC66) (Installed)

++ 012 - ShilohDS-Color Maps and Icons.7z (FB819755) (Installed)

013 - ==Body amd Clothing==

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++ 015 - New Vegas Type 3 Armors Only V2_1-34825.7z (C173E2C0) (Installed)

++ 016 - Lings_Vegas.7z (3ED8F3EA) (Installed)

++ 017 - Mikotos Beauty Pack v4_6-35878.7z (412C77B1) (Installed)

++ 018 - NivSpiceofLife-V 1_2-44476-1-2.7z (85521CA4) (Installed)

++ 019 - NeckChains_v3-48841-3.7z (DA3C25EE) (Installed)

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++ 021 - Hi-Rez BOG skins NV D_Cup Perky Pack-34702.7z (2C28CFD1) (Installed)

-- 022 - Breezes New Vegas Males v1-35451.7z (F2C66F24) (Not Installed)

-- 023 - Dragonskin Tactical Outfit v1_1-36152-1-1.7z (5EE70F70) (Not Installed)

-- 024 - Jewelry 1dot4a for BerryHD BNB Body-42179-1-4a.7z (A41046B1) (Not Installed)

025 - ==Game Changers==

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++ 028 - EVE v1point15a Final-42666-1-15a.7z (5AF7E078) (Installed)

++ 029 - Project Nevada 2_5-40040-2-5.7z (018AECB4) (Installed)

++ 030 - Advanced J3XMotorcycle V06-40645.7z (37F0568C) (Installed)

++ 031 - Imps More Complex Needs-37254-1-0-3.7z (E18434FC) (Installed)

++ 032 - BOEvegas3_04.7z (710542D9) (Installed)

++ 033 - MiscItemIcons0_9-34737-1.7z (C44C759D) (Installed)

++ 034 - A World Of Pain v501-38719-5-01.7z (023B07C8) (Installed)

++ 035 - hairylegs222s AWOP Fixes V6-38719-6-0.7z (6CA4FF12) (Installed)

-- 036 - Monster_Mod_v3.7z (F243432E) (Not Installed)

-- 037 - IWS 1-99 Update FOMOD-38623-1-99.7z (1EE4A896) (Not Installed)

-- 038 - See you Time for Bed NV-39188-v0-8b.7z (17185EFA) (Not Installed)

-- 039 - WARZONES V6A-40980.7z (F2A648FD) (Not Installed)

040 - ==Companions==

++ 041 - JIP Companions Command and Control - Manual-50468-1-24.7z (CAF530A6) (Installed)

++ 042 - NVWillow v97-3-41779.7z (01AFF9AA) (Installed)

++ 043 - SunnyCompanion_v2_6-37281-1.7z (5CBE8C95) (Installed)

044 - ==Weapons==

++ 045 - Advanced Recon Thermal Nightvision.7z (30D406E3) (Installed)

++ 046 - Adv Recon Trap Detection v2_7-39476-2-7.7z (E6B67B7E) (Installed)

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++ 048 - Advanced Recon Range Finder.7z (5A1D12CB) (Installed)

++ 049 - weapon_retexture_project_1dot95-38285-1-95.7z (3B01B604) (Installed)

++ 050 - Caliber 3-18 FOMOD-39981.7z (43336901) (Installed)

++ 051 - Weapon Mods Expanded.7z (BADFAFC3) (Installed)

-- 052 - FlashlightNVSE122 fomod installer-39968-1-22.7z (FB95337E) (Not Installed)

-- 053 - Weapon Stat Viewer-54643-1-3.7z (8E867B9F) (Not Installed)

054 - ==Lighting==

++ 055 - NVInteriors Core-43534-2-0.7z (707C7B5C) (Installed)

++ 056 - Interior Lighting Overhaul.7z (FFAE3628) (Installed)

++ 057 - ELECTRO-CITY v12A-37908-V12A.7z (A3A2FDDD) (Installed)

++ 058 - IMAGINATOR v5C-39619-v5C.7z (E3E2477C) (Installed)

059 - ==Weather==

++ 060 - Nevada Skies-35998-1-0.7z (63EE1409) (Installed)

++ 061 - Ambient Temperature 1_2_1-34814-1-2-1.7z (F1DFF0FF) (Installed)

062 - ==Homes==

++ 063 - UHNV-V4-4-37884-4-4.7z (2DD6F492) (Installed)

++ 064 - Underwater Home 4-2-02 Complete-NMM-FOMM-36121-4-2-02.7z (AB14A997) (Installed)

065 - ==Not done yet==

-- 066 - 31 New Food Items 1_4-40457-1-4.7z (3B653DB7) (Not Installed)

-- 067 - The Weapon Mod Menu-44515-1-2.7z (CA7D4747) (Not Installed)

-- 068 - Urban Food Re-tex-43919.zip (738881AD) (Not Installed)

-- 069 - NVAC - New Vegas Anti Crash-53635-6-2-0-0.zip (0734A32E) (Not Installed)

-- 070 - NVSR_4-1-30-34832-4-1-30.zip (604C1229) (Not Installed)

-- 071 - Fallout New Vegas Optimized v1_3_3-46302-1-3-3.rar (B41E603C) (Not Installed)

-- 072 - Fallout New Vegas Optimized v1_3_3-46302-1-3-3 (ECFA389B) (Not Installed)

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-- 074 - XRE - CARS - MODEL ADDON KIT-49042-Sv0-85.rar (44663E6C) (Not Installed)

-- 075 - XRE - CARS v0_85-49042-0-85.rar (B6B978D8) (Not Installed)

-- 076 - XRE - CARS v0_86-49042-v0-86.rar (6D7C5C90) (Not Installed)

077 - ==Last==

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079 - ==Programs== install by Hand==

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-- 081 - enbseries_fallout3_v0203enboost.zip (F0DFC480) (Not Installed)

-- 082 - FNV4GB-1-6-35262-1-6.zip (D29B3A48) (Not Installed)

-- 083 - NVAC - New Vegas Anti Crash-53635-5-2-0-0.7z (A914E946) (Not Installed)

-- 084 - nvse_4_2_beta2.7z (4EC94146) (Not Installed)

-- 085 - Optimizer Texures 083e-46074-0-8-3.rar (255E015E) (Not Installed)

086 - ==These are MANUAL installers ONLY!!==

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-- 088 - FNV_EShaders_ENB_161_v01-71_NSKIES.7z (1EBDC94C) (Not Installed)

-- 089 - Enhanced Shaders NEUTRAL - ENB 161-49882-1-9NT.7z (021E49B5) (Not Installed)

-- 090 - enbseries_falloutnv_v0118.zip (2CB082CA) (Not Installed)

-- 091 - enbseries_falloutnv_v0150.zip (D4D54BDF) (Not Installed)

-- 092 - enbseries_falloutnv_v0173.7z (B4FFC5DC) (Not Installed)

-- 093 - enbseries_falloutnv_v0194.zip (1FC702DE) (Not Installed)

-- 094 - enbseries_falloutnv_v0216.zip (B23ED6E9) (Not Installed)

-- 095 - enbseries_falloutnv_v0237.zip (DCF9F25A) (Not Installed)

My Mods 105/118

Active Mod Files:

00 falloutnv.esm

01 DeadMoney.esm

02 HonestHearts.esm

03 OldWorldBlues.esm

04 LonesomeRoad.esm

05 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

06 ClassicPack.esm

07 MercenaryPack.esm

08 TribalPack.esm

09 CaravanPack.esm

0A YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

0B Ambient Temperature.esm

0C Advanced Recon Tech.esm

0D Caliber.esm

0E CaliberXhonesthearts.esm

0F CaliberXgunrunners.esm

10 Detect Traps.esm

11 Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm [Version 6.6]

12 Mo'.esm

13 AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

14 NevadaSkies.esm

15 NVInteriors_Core.esm

16 NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

17 Project Nevada - Core.esm

18 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

19 Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

1A ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

1B ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

1C oHUD.esm

1D UWHNV-Core.esm

1E New Vegas Redesigned II.esm

1F Lings.esm

20 MikotoBeauty.esm

21 DarNifiedUINV.esp

22 Centered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.esp

23 The Mod Configuration Menu.esp [Version 1.5]

24 UHNV.esp

25 UHNV-Dead Money.esp

26 UHNV-Honest Hearts.esp

27 UHNV-OWB.esp

28 UHNV-Lonesome Road.esp

29 UHNV-More Mannequins.esp

2A UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp

2B UWHNV-Addon-GRA.esp

2C UWHNV-Addon-FollowerHome.esp

2D Mo'Guns.esp

2E Mo'Gals.esp

2F Mo'Suite.esp

30 Mo'IPP.esp

31 Mo'haveAmmoDepot.esp

32 Mo'DLC.esp

33 Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

34 Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

35 Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

36 Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

37 Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

++ Detect Traps - Perk.esp

38 Detect Traps - Traponator 4000.esp

39 Detect Traps - DLC.esp

3A Advanced Recon Gear.esp

3B Advanced Recon Riot Gear Helmet.esp

3C Advanced Recon Tech.esp

++ Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp

3D 1nivVSLArmors.esp [Version 1.2]

3E 1nivPNSLPatch.esp [Version 1.2]

3F Advanced Recon Armor.esp

40 Advanced Recon Desert Ranger Helmet.esp

41 Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp

42 Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp

43 FlashlightNVSE.esp

44 josexysleepwear.esp

45 Neckchains.esp

46 Sack of Holding-NV.esp [Version 1.0.0]

++ LingsPrettyThings.esp

++ NVR- Recommended.esp

47 New Vegas redesigned- Honest Hearts.esp

++ Voice dissonance fix.esp

48 AWOPDeadMoney.esp

49 AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp

4A AWOP DLC + GRA Conflict Error Fixes.esp

4B AWOP-BOEWeaponPatch.esp

++ AWOP-BOE-DLC.esp

4C AWOPCaliberXAmmoPatch.esp

4D JIP Companions Command & Control.esp

4E NVWillow.esp

4F Mo'Willow.esp

50 SunnyCompanion.esp

51 Mo'SunnyCompanion.esp

52 DriveableMotorCycle.esp

** MiscItemIconsNV.esp

53 ShilohDS-Color Maps and Icons.esp

54 dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

++ dD-More Gore.esp

55 Imp's More Complex Needs.esp

56 Ambient Temperature - IMCNNV.esp

57 IMCNNV - HUD and Hotkeys.esp

58 WeaponModsExpanded.esp

59 EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

5A WMX-DeadMoney.esp

5B WMX-HonestHearts.esp

5C WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

5D WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

5E WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

** WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

5F WMX-POPMerged.esp

++ Mo'Guns_WMX.esp

++ AWOP-BOE-WMX.esp

60 Mo'Guns_WMX_DLC.esp

++ WMX-EVE-AllDLC.esp

61 Vurt's WFO.esp

62 NevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.esp

63 Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp [Version 6.6]

++ ILO - PipBoy Light.esp [Version 1.0]

64 ILO - NVInteriors Project.esp [Version 1.5]

65 ILO - A World of Pain.esp [Version 1.2]

66 ELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.esp

67 MikotoBeauty.esp

68 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Don't think I would try this without Wrye. Does anyone need Wrye...no most things would be harmless one mod canceling anthers edits, that can make a mod behave badly. A merge patch from FNVEdit can also help make mods play nice together. I have compared the 2 kinds of patches and to me it looked like the Bashed patch included more and left less conflicts.

EDIT: and as i slowly creep up to this magical 139 mod limit i plan to get to 200+ mods like i did for Skyrim/Oblivion. Hell in Oblivion i had 265 mods thanks to Bash and mods merged into the patch!.

Edited February 8, 2014 by camaro_69_327

[ADD1CTEDGAM3R]

Are there any tutorials on how to use it? I looked around briefly and can't seem to find any.

[ADD1CTEDGAM3R]

Anybody else? Please help!

[camaro_69_327]

Sent ya a PM....also youtube has a few vids for Wrye.

[ADD1CTEDGAM3R]

So, I'm still having this issue, and I'd really, really appreciate some support. Thanks.