Is Oblivion too much of a game for my system?

[madestro]

Here's the thing, I have a pretty good rig IMHO but there's no way I can run Oblivion on high settings with graphics enhancing mods on decent frame rates. The problem seems to be on the outside and not inside buildings. Some times I get 70 fps inside but then when I go to the outside the fps drops to 15 or even less !!! :wallbash: I know that outside is more fps intensive but it's just to much of a difference.

Now here are some of my specs :

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ stock / Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P

GSkill 2x2GB DDR2 1066 MHz / XFX GTX 260 Core 216 896 MB DDR3

OCZ GameXtream 700 W / WD 640 GB 7200 rpm

Syncmaster 931c 19" / Dual SATA DVD Burners

CoolerMaster Cosmos 1000 / Logitech G11 and G5

Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bits / 5.6 Vista Experience

As it stands I run pretty much every game in the world with high settings and even very high settings, including the Total War games.

Here's my load order:

Oblivion.esm
Jog_X_Mod.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
TamrielTravellers.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
bookplacing.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp
Better Cities .esp
LoadingScreens.esp
LoadingScreensAddOn.esp
LoadingScreensSI.esp
_Real_Lights.esp
Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
ln.esp
Symphony of Violence.esp
MIS Low Wind.esp
MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
Storms & Sound.esp
Cities Alive At Night.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp
BookTrackerOBSE.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
Days&Months.esp
P1DmenuEscape.esp
RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp
SoT_Holiday.esp
Living Economy.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp
Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
PersuasionOverhaul.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp
OOO-BirthSigns.esp
OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp
OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp
OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp
OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp
OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp
OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp
OOO-Potions.esp
TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp
TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp
PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp
LoadingScreens-OOO.esp
Cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp
DBSRebuiltComplete.esp
Delivery Job - BC.esp
LetThePeopleDrink.esp
Scribe Supplies.esp
thievery.esp
VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
Book Placement v2.esp
FewerOBGates.esp
RandomGatesDontReopen.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
SupremeMagicka.esp
SM_ShiveringIsles.esp
SM_DLCSpellTome.esp
SM_OOO.esp
SM_COBL.esp
SM_UnlockSpells.esp
SM_Scrolls.esp
SM_SigilStone.esp
MidasSpells.esp
ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp
RenGuardOverhaul.esp
RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
SM_DeadlyReflex.esp
Oblivion XP.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Cobl Races TNR.esp
Cobl Races TNR SI.esp
Cobl Races - Balanced.esp
Unlimited Rings 2.0 -auto.esp
Benirus Lair.esp
VileLairRebuilt.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 1.5x damage.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Better Cities - Thievery.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp

This load order has been optimized by BOSS, I also use OBMM and 95% of my mods are in omod format and I install them this way, I also have OBSE latest version and Wrye Bash but I don't use wrye because it has messed up my oblivion installation more than once (mainly because I don't know how to use it).

So with all this in mind is there any way I can run this mods and Oblivion with high settings in a 1280x1024 monitor and get rid of the crappy outside fps and the stutering ??

I have all the latest drivers installed for both the MoBo and the GPU and I have defragmented my rig and cleaned up old files and such. I've also gone through the tweakguides.com advices and they don't seem to help at all.

Any help on load order or maybe some replacement mods would be appreciated.

Oh and I use Qarls Texture Packs optimized both textures and meshes and the compatibility patch for UOP.

Thanks a lot for any help, it would be much appreciated. :thanks:

[dezdimona]

thats fairly normal. Check this out it does wonders!

http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_1.html

[madestro]

Thanks for the reply dezdimona and yes I have seen this guide and followed some of the advice there but if I follow all of them then my game doesn't look as great as I want it to and as I know it can, and most of the settings haven't helped me at all or very little.

I think I may try to disable Natural Environments mod since the sttutering is only outside and I get awesome fps inside caves and shops and such. Can anyone suggest a better mod than Natural Environments ? Especially for realistic weather control which is a primary for me.

Of all the mods that I'm using the only ones I'm never going to take off are OOO, Oblivion XP and Better Cities since they really enhance the game and this is the 3rd time I've played it so vanilla monsters and animals are way too easy for me.

[LFact]

Natural Weather and Natural Water, Natural Vegetation can be replaced with:

- Weather - All Natural

- Enhanced Weather

 

- Enhanced Water

 

- Enhanced Vegetation

 

Mod like better cities, or RAEVWD can impact your performance.

[madestro]

Thanks LFact for your reply. I was looking at the Weather All Natural mod the other day and was wondering if it was good, I'll give it a try along with your other suggestions. I'm trying to make the game a little more "real" and that's why I need some weather mods.

As far as Better Cities goes I'm willing to take the performance hit but it doesn't seem to hurt as much, in the imperial city I get as much as 52 fps so that's good enough.

And I do use RAEVWD but I'm willing to stop using it in favor of a more fps friendly one albeit a little less quality.

But thanks again and keep the suggestions coming. :thumbsup: :thanks: