A different experience....

[quadcoreit]

I've played Fallout many times on the XBOX 360 and now have it on the PC (for obvious reasons!)

 

Sinse the changeover I've found my playing style change, quite dramatically. On the XBOX I rushed through from mission to mission and place to place striving to get the game done. On the PC, the game seems so much more imersive and realistic and I sink into the wasteland with ease, loosing hours and hours of real time.

 

This had allowed me to really get into my playing style, which basically involves me actually listening to NPC's instead of clicking through to the important stuff, sitting in bars drinking whisky and watching the world go by while I think about how to best handle myself in the wasteland, and even making friends.

 

Am I the only one who has experienced this? Am I alone in this virtual world? Does it even matter? Have I simply been awake too long and am possibly talking sh*t?

 

 

Your thoughts?!?

[madprine]

I've played Fallout many times on the XBOX 360 and now have it on the PC (for obvious reasons!)

 

Sinse the changeover I've found my playing style change, quite dramatically. On the XBOX I rushed through from mission to mission and place to place striving to get the game done. On the PC, the game seems so much more imersive and realistic and I sink into the wasteland with ease, loosing hours and hours of real time.

 

This had allowed me to really get into my playing style, which basically involves me actually listening to NPC's instead of clicking through to the important stuff, sitting in bars drinking whisky and watching the world go by while I think about how to best handle myself in the wasteland, and even making friends.

 

Am I the only one who has experienced this? Am I alone in this virtual world? Does it even matter? Have I simply been awake too long and am possibly talking sh*t?

 

 

Your thoughts?!?

 

na we all feel this, needless to say thats what is great about fallout3, yes there are people that dont "sink" into the game and dont like it much. whats so great about it on pc is that you feel "almost" like your there IN the wasteland, and feel the need to take your time ;] your not the only one

"off topic"

i got all the dlc and i got MSZ BUT i dont get the signal....and idk whats wrong with it... anyone know? "yes i have the new patch" i played it a few r.l hours and still nothing...

(btw not trying to change topic just my first post and feel the need to ask)

[test2]

Those symptoms could be caused by the lack of 3 things:

 

Sleep, Food, P*ssy (not necessarily in that order)

 

And FO3 will - if you allow it - most definitely cause a severe deficiency of exactly those 3 things :ermm:

 

 

At the risk of opening a can of worms:

Morrowind, Oblivion, FO3, ... can only be fully appreciated on the platform they were meant for.

Console gaming is far too casual to properly experience immersion.

Just too many opportunities for external distractions.

And let's not forget: Finishing it is just the beginning! (mods anyone?)

[test2]

"off topic"

i got all the dlc and i got MSZ BUT i dont get the signal....and idk whats wrong with it... anyone know? "yes i have the new patch" i played it a few r.l hours and still nothing...

(btw not trying to change topic just my first post and feel the need to ask)

 

Look up the Quest ID and use "SetStage" to start it manually.

Another reason why you shouldn't be playing this on a console...

[madprine]

"off topic"

i got all the dlc and i got MSZ BUT i dont get the signal....and idk whats wrong with it... anyone know? "yes i have the new patch" i played it a few r.l hours and still nothing...

(btw not trying to change topic just my first post and feel the need to ask)

 

Look up the Quest ID and use "SetStage" to start it manually.

Another reason why you shouldn't be playing this on a console...

errrm... confused :S and where would setstage be?

[test2]

"off topic"

i got all the dlc and i got MSZ BUT i dont get the signal....and idk whats wrong with it... anyone know? "yes i have the new patch" i played it a few r.l hours and still nothing...

(btw not trying to change topic just my first post and feel the need to ask)

 

Look up the Quest ID and use "SetStage" to start it manually.

Another reason why you shouldn't be playing this on a console...

errrm... confused :S and where would setstage be?

 

Well, ironically, "SetStage" is a "console command" :D

However in this case the console is not a plastic vehicle for vendor lock-in.

It's a command line, which can usually be accessed using the tilda key ("~"), depending on your keyboard layout.

 

A quick lookup @ http://fallout.wikia.com reveals that the first quest of Mothership Zeta is "Not of This World", which has a BaseID of "xx000802".

 

The "xx" prefix refers to the mod's position in your load order.

Use FOMM if unsure (and I can't imagine why anyone would be playing FO3 without FOMM).

Since Mothership Zeta is the fifth released DLC, I'll be using "05" for demonstrational purposes.

 

So... We've established our BaseID is "05000802". Moving on.

 

Besides a BaseID, quests also have "stages", indicating how far you've advanced in the quest.

They mostly start at 10, but there may be exceptions to the rule, so better be sure:

 

At the console we type: ShowQuestStages 05000802

... which will show you all the possible stages relevant to that specific quest.

 

IF the count does indeed start @ 10, we can then proceed with: SetStage 05000802 10

... which would trigger the initial stadium of the quest, effectively adding it to your Pip-Boy.

 

 

Hope that makes any sense.

[madprine]

"off topic"

i got all the dlc and i got MSZ BUT i dont get the signal....and idk whats wrong with it... anyone know? "yes i have the new patch" i played it a few r.l hours and still nothing...

(btw not trying to change topic just my first post and feel the need to ask)

 

Look up the Quest ID and use "SetStage" to start it manually.

Another reason why you shouldn't be playing this on a console...

errrm... confused :S and where would setstage be?

 

Well, ironically, "SetStage" is a "console command" :D

However in this case the console is not a plastic vehicle for vendor lock-in.

It's a command line, which can usually be accessed using the tilda key ("~"), depending on your keyboard layout.

 

A quick lookup @ http://fallout.wikia.com reveals that the first quest of Mothership Zeta is "Not of This World", which has a BaseID of "xx000802".

 

The "xx" prefix refers to the mod's position in your load order.

Use FOMM if unsure (and I can't imagine why anyone would be playing FO3 without FOMM).

Since Mothership Zeta is the fifth released DLC, I'll be using "05" for demonstrational purposes.

 

So... We've established our BaseID is "05000802". Moving on.

 

Besides a BaseID, quests also have "stages", indicating how far you've advanced in the quest.

They mostly start at 10, but there may be exceptions to the rule, so better be sure:

 

At the console we type: ShowQuestStages 05000802

... which will show you all the possible stages relevant to that specific quest.

 

IF the count does indeed start @ 10, we can then proceed with: SetStage 05000802 10

... which would trigger the initial stadium of the quest, effectively adding it to your Pip-Boy.

 

 

Hope that makes any sense.

lol wow errm i'll try that and get back to u thanks lol

[madprine]

ok i did that and...says not found and saying cant find item and so on D:

[gsmanners]

With mods, there is a strong temptation to cheat like a madman, but that should wear off in a week or two.

 

Eventually, you'll probably find the mods that suit your play style best. I find that I gravitate toward a weird amalgam of Dirty Harry and world's most dangerous ninja.

[test2]

ok i did that and...says not found and saying cant find item and so on D:

Are you absolutely positively sure you used the correct prefix?

Get Fallout Mod Manager (http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=640) and verify your load order.

 

You may also try loading an older savegame, from BEFORE you install MZ.

 

 

With mods, there is a strong temptation to cheat like a madman, but that should wear off in a week or two.

That may be true for some, but I find cheating ruins your game from the get-go.

You'll get bored with it before you even started, and get the wrong impressions.

And frankly, that's an insult to the developers' hard work.

 

Most if not all *worthy* mods aren't unbalancing at all and some might actually INCREASE realism/difficulty.

 

Good examples are Real Injuries, Primary Needs, Amplified Crippled Effects, Marts Mutant Mod, ...

Or UI improvements such as DarNified UI F3, Enclave World Map, House Map Markers, Ammo Sorter, ...

And let's not forget essentials such as the Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch, Fellout, Enhanced Weather, ...