Yay! Random Crashing!

[cronodevir]

So, I am getting random crashes left and right after update a couple of mods. But through proces of eleimination those mods I updated are not causing the crashes it seems. So I am thinking its time for a complete directory wipe and starting everything over fresh, its been awhile. In the mean time I know BOSS detects no issues with this load order I plan to have, but do you all see any issues with it?

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Falskaar.esm
06  ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
07  GeneralStores.esm
08  moonpath.esm
09  Nchuzzrezar.esm
0A  Perk-Reset-MCM.esm
0B  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.2a]
0C  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.2]
0D  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.2]
0E  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
0F  AemersRefuge.esm
10  NPCEssential - Followers.esp
11  NPCEssential - Miners.esp
12  NPCEssential - Horses.esp
13  NPCEssential - Carriage Drivers.esp
14  NPCEssential - Farmers.esp
15  NPCEssential - Trainers.esp
16  NPCEssential - Lumberjacks.esp
17  NPCEssential - Citizens.esp
18  NPCEssential - Stable Masters.esp
19  NPCEssential - Caravan Traders.esp
1A  NPCEssential - Vendors.esp
1B  Chesko_Frostfall.esp
1C  enhanceddynamicweathersystemnormal.esp
1D  enhanceddynamicweathersystemsnowy.esp
1E  enhanceddynamicweathersystemsunny.esp
1F  enhanceddynamicweathersystemrainy.esp
20  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 1.00]
21  KaceAutoloot.esp
22  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
23  HerbalTea.esp
24  High Level Enemies.esp
25  High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp
26  High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
27  High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
28  I5K Treasure Hunt.esp
29  Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp
2A  Quest Eraser_DG.esp
2B  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2]
2C  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2]
2D  moreloot.esp
2E  DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
2F  IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp
30  RaceMenu.esp
31  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
32  SkyUI.esp
33  iHUD.esp
34  manny_Status.esp
35  Cloaks.esp
36  Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp
37  EK_RingLimiter.esp
38  D13LeveledItemsUpgradeD.esp
39  Dr_Bandolier.esp
3A  HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp  [Version 2.0]
3B  HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp
3C  DeadlyDragons.esp
3D  DeadlyMonsters.esp
3E  SkyRe_Main.esp
3F  SkyRe_Combat.esp
40  SkyRE-Patch.esp
41  SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
42  SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
43  SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp
44  SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
45  SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
46  SkyRe_HelmlessPerks.esp
47  BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
48  CornerofTheSkyrim.esp
49  HearthfireMultiKid.esp
4A  HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
4B  Heimfeigr.esp
4C  moonpath_questdata.esp
4D  My Home Is Your Home.esp
4E  MzarkWonders.esp
4F  Nchuzzrezar.esp
50  nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp
51  OBIS.esp
52  OBISDB.esp
53  OBIS FALSKAAR PATCH.esp
54  towBlockSteal.esp
55  Undeath.esp
56  Vjarkell Castle.esp
57  WheezesDungeonPack1.esp
++  3x magickaregen.esp
58  AchieveThat.esp
59  Bounty Gold.esp  [Version 1.0]
5A  Deadly Traps.esp
5B  Improved_Artifact_allDLC.esp
5C  Khajiit Merchants Buy Stolen Items.esp
++  LFox Alchemists Have Ingredients Ultra.esp
5D  Mask_Converter.esp
5E  Mask_Converter_Dragonborn.esp
5F  Sneak Tweak.esp
60  Sickly Diseases.esp
61  SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
62  Convenient Horses.esp
63  TheChoiceIsYours.esp
64  TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
++  UnlimitedSprint.esp
65  Zbuffed Candlelight Spell R9001B.esp
66  ETaC - Complete.esp
67  SoS - The Dungeons.esp  [Version 1.23]
68  SoS - The Wilds.esp  [Version 1.13]
69  SoS - Civilization.esp  [Version 1.02]
6A  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
6B  ELFX - Exteriors.esp
6C  ELFX - Moonpath.esp
6D  ELFXEnhancer.esp
6E  SkyRealism - Capacity and Carry Weight.esp  [Version 1.8]
6F  SkyRealism - Mass and Materials.esp  [Version 1.8]
70  SkyRealism - Mass and Materials - Dawnguard.esp  [Version 2.0]
++  SkyRealism - Mass and Materials - Hearthfires.esp  [Version 2.0]
71  SkyRealism - Mass and Materials - Cloaks.esp  [Version 2.0]
72  SkyRealism - Mass and Materials - Dr_Bandolier.esp  [Version 2.0]
73  Better Vampires ML.esp
74  Predator Vision.esp
75  WerewolfMastery.esp
76  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
77  Horse Whisper.esp
78  Phenderix's Magic Evolved No Perks.esp
79  SummonFollowers.esp
7A  Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
7B  The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
7C  ACE BYOG.esp
7D  Sneak Tools.esp
7E  Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
7F  Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
80  Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
81  3DNPC.esp
82  RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
83  RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
84  RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
85  RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
86  RND_USKP-Patch.esp
87  FalskaarRNDHotfix.esp
88  Inigo.esp
89  CerwidenCompanion.esp
++  moveitLWT.esp
8A  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
8B  Random Alternate Start.esp
8C  RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp
8D  SkyRe_Races.esp
8E  Skyrim 3 Day Vendor Respawn.esp
8F  FollowerCompatibility.esp
90  DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp
91  AemersRefuge-DG-DB.esp
92  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
93  ASIS-Dependency.esp
94  ASIS.esp
95  ReProccer.esp
96  WTF.esp

 

Edit: Some mods may be out of date, but I am redownloading everything fresh today anyways.

I thinking of removing convienent horses, it has always seemed to be a source of crashyness, in paticular if you ride a horse for a long time without stopping, but I a not sure if that is due to the mod, or because skyrim's RAM allowance fills up from laoded eneities and the game crashes. Propbably the latter I would guess.

Also, crashed occured on new and old saves.

Edited March 3, 2014 by cronodevir

[BangBangYouAreDead]

Have you run the ASIS and Reproccer patcher programs correctly? You don't seem to have a 'Pre ASIS Patch', etc. that would appear in your load order after you ran the executables.

Edited March 3, 2014 by BangBangYouAreDead

[cronodevir]

Actually, I am not sure. I jsut run ASIS.jar and let it do its thing[i made neded adjustements because I have skyre of course]. And the reproccer.jar aswell.

Both of them freze for 5 minutes on "adding masters", but my skyrim kept working reguardless so I left it alone. This was in november of last year.

Edited March 3, 2014 by cronodevir

[BangBangYouAreDead]

Skyrim will work without you running them, but it will be much more unstable and you will probably get a lot of mod conflicts. They do take a fairly long time to run, you just have to wait. Check the Reproccer page on the Nexus, if I remember rightly the mod author links to a decent explanation of how to run both the ASIS and the Reproccer patchers.

[cronodevir]

Well, I did let them complete. But when I did it [back in November] there was no pre asis patch.esp or anything.

 

The mods I updated were frostfall, convient horses, the unofficial patches, and deadly dragons.

Edited March 3, 2014 by cronodevir

[camaro_69_327]

When doing Updates ...did you find and follow any specific instructions for each mod? Some mods require you to ..stop a script, SAve , exit, Update, Load , Start a Script, Save.

From Convenient Horses Page here....very bottom of the Page.

 

Save Game Cleaning:

1. Load the save you want to make clean.
2. Release the running scripts by typing in console (StopQuest CH).
3. Overwrite the save.
4. Repeat steps 1, 2 and 3 for all saves you want to make clean.
5. Disable/Uninstall the mod in mod manager.
6. Load the saves you made in step 3 and overwrite them again one by one, this time without the mod being loaded.

If you were upgrading the mod with clean save procedure everything you've set up in config will be lost along with horse call power and whistle quest. To regain these powers artificially use console to change few global values (set CHBuyHornCompleted to 1) and (set CHLearnWhistleCompleted to 1). After you change these values restart the quest by typing (StopQuest CH) followed by (StartQuest CH) and you will gain access to these powers as if you had gained them the natural way. I strongly recommend not to use this procedure if you are installing the mod for the first time as you gonna miss the real fun of learning the whistle.

??

 

Mods with Scripts a a fragile thing in Skyrim.

[cronodevir]

So, I am still getting random crashes. I don't know what is causing it. Fresh install of everything. It only happens outside and I think it may be bandit related, though I haven't tried. It's only ever crashed when fighting bandits or looting bandits. So maybe OBIS is to blame? Or one of the procpatchers? I remade the propatchers twice.

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Falskaar.esm
06  AemersRefuge.esm
07  ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
08  GeneralStores.esm
09  moonpath.esm
0A  Perk-Reset-MCM.esm
0B  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]
0C  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.2]
0D  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.2]
0E  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
0F  Chesko_Frostfall.esp
10  enhanceddynamicweathersystem.esp
11  enhanceddynamicweathersystemnormal.esp
12  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 2.00]
13  KaceAutoloot.esp
14  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
15  HerbalTea.esp
16  High Level Enemies.esp
17  High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp
18  High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
19  High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
1A  I5K Treasure Hunt.esp
1B  Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp
1C  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2]
1D  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2]
1E  doubleloot.esp
1F  DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
20  IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp
21  RaceMenu.esp
22  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
23  SkyUI.esp
24  iHUD.esp
25  manny_Status.esp
26  Cloaks.esp
27  Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp
28  EK_RingLimiter.esp
29  D13LeveledItemsUpgradeD.esp
2A  Dr_Bandolier.esp
2B  HarvestOverhaul.esp  [Version 2.8.2]
2C  HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp  [Version 2.8.2]
2D  DeadlyDragons.esp
2E  DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp
2F  SkyRe_Main.esp
30  SkyRe_Combat.esp
31  SkyRE-Patch.esp
32  SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
33  SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
34  SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
35  SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
++  SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp  [Version v6.1.2]
36  AemersRefuge-DG-DB.esp
37  BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
38  CornerofTheSkyrim.esp
39  HearthfireMultiKid.esp
3A  HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
3B  Heimfeigr.esp
3C  moonpath_questdata.esp
3D  My Home Is Your Home.esp
3E  MzarkWonders.esp
3F  nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp
40  OBIS.esp
41  OBISDB.esp
42  Bandit Patrols.esp
43  towBlockSteal.esp
44  Undeath.esp
45  WheezesDungeonPack1.esp
++  3x magickaregen.esp
46  AchieveThat.esp
47  ArtifactOverhaul.esp
48  Bounty Gold.esp  [Version 1.0]
49  Deadly Traps.esp
4A  FalskaarDawnguard.esp
4B  Khajiit Merchants Buy Stolen Items.esp
++  LFox Alchemists Have Ingredients Ultra.esp
4C  Sneak Tweak.esp
4D  Sickly Diseases.esp
4E  SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
4F  Convenient Horses.esp
50  TheChoiceIsYours.esp
51  TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
++  UnlimitedSprint.esp
52  Zbuffed Candlelight Spell R9005B.esp
53  ETaC - Complete.esp
54  SoS - The Dungeons.esp  [Version 1.23]
55  SoS - The Wilds.esp  [Version 1.13]
56  SoS - Civilization.esp  [Version 1.02]
57  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
58  ELFX - Exteriors.esp
59  ELFX - Moonpath.esp
5A  ELFXEnhancer.esp
5B  Better Vampires ML.esp
5C  Predator Vision.esp
5D  WerewolfMastery.esp
5E  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
5F  Horse Whisper.esp
60  Phenderix's Magic Evolved No Perks.esp
61  SummonFollowers.esp
62  Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
63  The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
64  ACE BYOG.esp
65  ACE BYOG - Jump Height u100.esp
66  ACE BYOG - Starting Skills 0.esp
67  Sneak Tools.esp
68  Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
69  Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
6A  Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
6B  3DNPC.esp
6C  RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
6D  RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
6E  RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
6F  RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
70  RND_ETaC-Patch.esp
71  RND_USKP-Patch.esp
72  Inigo.esp
73  CerwidenCompanion.esp
74  moveitLWT.esp
75  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
76  Random Alternate Start.esp
77  RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp
78  SkyRe_Races.esp
79  Skyrim 3 Day Vendor Respawn.esp
7A  AFTtweak.esp
7B  DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp
7C  HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp
7D  HarvestOverhaul_SkyRe_Patch.esp
7E  RND_AnimalLoot.esp
7F  RND_HerbalTea-Patch.esp
80  Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp
81  The Coenaculi.esp
82  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
83  ASIS-Dependency.esp
84  ASIS.esp
85  ReProccer.esp
86  The Staff Machine.esp
87  WTF.esp

[jrydenbark]

Just looking at the unofficial patches, BOSS usually places them after their respective esm files. Did you override that with user rules?

[eternum]

Try using SUM instead of separate Proc patchers, it will arrange all your patches in correct order. Also if you can, post the actual BOSS log.

[cronodevir]

I ran boss, then I ran asis, then I ran reproccer, I had to run reproccer in noboss mode because it kept running boss which changed the load order and broke asis, and when the reproccer failed to load asis it would fail. I had to manually place a master [skytest immersive creatures] before asis, but boss doesn't know where to put it so it puts it after asis. The same thing occurred with the staff machine. Then I ran WTF.

At first I had [in asis] automatic spells and perks enabled, but I remember back in the day that was not a good idea with skyre so I went and redid all the patchers [in the same order] so that could contribute to the issues.

I run boss with what ever its default settings are.

I will try SUM.

 

Does Skyrim still need a memory expander of sorts to use 4gb memory instead of 2? Will stuff like the following link still help?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/38649/?

 

Update: Ran SUM, it failed because boss moved files around and broke the bashed patch. :/ Is there a noboss mode for SUM? I don't want my load order touched at all. -_-

 

All of this is after running SUM:

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Falskaar.esm
06  AemersRefuge.esm
07  ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
08  GeneralStores.esm
09  moonpath.esm
0A  Perk-Reset-MCM.esm
0B  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]
0C  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.2]
0D  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.2]
0E  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
0F  Chesko_Frostfall.esp
10  enhanceddynamicweathersystem.esp
11  enhanceddynamicweathersystemnormal.esp
12  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 2.00]
13  KaceAutoloot.esp
14  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
15  HerbalTea.esp
16  High Level Enemies.esp
17  High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp
18  High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
19  High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
1A  I5K Treasure Hunt.esp
1B  Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp
1C  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2]
1D  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2]
1E  doubleloot.esp
1F  DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
20  IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp
21  RaceMenu.esp
22  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
23  SkyUI.esp
24  iHUD.esp
25  manny_Status.esp
26  Cloaks.esp
27  Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp
28  EK_RingLimiter.esp
29  D13LeveledItemsUpgradeD.esp
2A  Dr_Bandolier.esp
2B  HarvestOverhaul.esp  [Version 2.8.2]
2C  HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp  [Version 2.8.2]
2D  DeadlyDragons.esp
2E  DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp
2F  SkyRe_Main.esp
30  SkyRe_Combat.esp
31  SkyRE-Patch.esp
32  SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
33  SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
34  SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
35  SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
++  SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp  [Version v6.1.2]
36  AemersRefuge-DG-DB.esp
37  BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
38  CornerofTheSkyrim.esp
39  HearthfireMultiKid.esp
3A  HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
3B  Heimfeigr.esp
3C  moonpath_questdata.esp
3D  My Home Is Your Home.esp
3E  MzarkWonders.esp
3F  nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp
40  OBIS.esp
41  OBISDB.esp
42  Bandit Patrols.esp
43  towBlockSteal.esp
44  Undeath.esp
45  WheezesDungeonPack1.esp
++  3x magickaregen.esp
46  AchieveThat.esp
47  ArtifactOverhaul.esp
48  Bounty Gold.esp  [Version 1.0]
49  Deadly Traps.esp
4A  FalskaarDawnguard.esp
4B  Khajiit Merchants Buy Stolen Items.esp
++  LFox Alchemists Have Ingredients Ultra.esp
4C  Sneak Tweak.esp
4D  Sickly Diseases.esp
4E  SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
4F  Convenient Horses.esp
50  TheChoiceIsYours.esp
51  TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
++  UnlimitedSprint.esp
52  Zbuffed Candlelight Spell R9005B.esp
53  ETaC - Complete.esp
54  SoS - The Dungeons.esp  [Version 1.23]
55  SoS - The Wilds.esp  [Version 1.13]
56  SoS - Civilization.esp  [Version 1.02]
57  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
58  ELFX - Exteriors.esp
59  ELFX - Moonpath.esp
5A  ELFXEnhancer.esp
5B  Better Vampires ML.esp
5C  Predator Vision.esp
5D  WerewolfMastery.esp
5E  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
5F  Horse Whisper.esp
60  Phenderix's Magic Evolved No Perks.esp
61  SummonFollowers.esp
62  Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
63  The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
64  ACE BYOG.esp
65  ACE BYOG - Jump Height u100.esp
66  ACE BYOG - Starting Skills 0.esp
67  Sneak Tools.esp
68  Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
69  Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
6A  Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
6B  3DNPC.esp
6C  RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
6D  RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
6E  RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
6F  RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
70  RND_ETaC-Patch.esp
71  RND_USKP-Patch.esp
72  Inigo.esp
73  CerwidenCompanion.esp
74  moveitLWT.esp
75  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
76  Random Alternate Start.esp
77  RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp
78  SkyRe_Races.esp
79  Skyrim 3 Day Vendor Respawn.esp
7A  AFTtweak.esp
7B  DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp
7C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: RND_AnimalLoot.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: RND_HerbalTea-Patch.esp
7D  ASIS-Dependency.esp
7E  ASIS.esp
7F  ReProccer.esp
80  WTF.esp
81  HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp
82  HarvestOverhaul_SkyRe_Patch.esp
83  RND_AnimalLoot.esp
84  RND_HerbalTea-Patch.esp
85  Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp
86  The Coenaculi.esp
87  The Staff Machine.esp

 

 

 

 

 

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	Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active
	HerbalTea.esp Active
	High Level Enemies.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
	
	
	High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
	
	
	High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
	
	
	High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
	
	
	I5K Treasure Hunt.esp Active
	Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp Active
	Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
	
	
	Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
	
	
	doubleloot.esp Active
	DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Active
	
	Note: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1.
	
	
	IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp Active
	
	Contains dirty edits: 26 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
	
	
	RaceMenu.esp Active
	RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
	
	Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
	
	
	SkyUI.esp Active
	iHUD.esp Active
	manny_Status.esp Active
	Cloaks.esp Active
	
	Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
	
	
	Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp Active
	EK_RingLimiter.esp Active
	D13LeveledItemsUpgradeD.esp Active
	Dr_Bandolier.esp Active
	HarvestOverhaul.esp Active
	HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp Active
	DeadlyDragons.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
	
	
	DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp Active
	SkyRe_Main.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}
	Note: If lockpicking is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'.
	Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/13652 mod.
	Note: To make aiming easier add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:
	Note: [Actor]
	Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000
	Note: [Combat]
	Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
	Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
	Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
	Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
	
	
	SkyRe_Combat.esp Active
	SkyRE-Patch.esp Active
	SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active
	SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
	
	
	SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active
	SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Active
	SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp
	AemersRefuge-DG-DB.esp Active
	BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp Active
	
	Warning: This file contains 2 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 is located http://www.iguanadons.net/Skyrim-Fixing-Navmesh-Deletion-Using-TES5Edit-511.html.
	
	
	CornerofTheSkyrim.esp Active
	HearthfireMultiKid.esp Active
	HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp Active
	Heimfeigr.esp Active
	moonpath_questdata.esp Active
	
	Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
	
	
	My Home Is Your Home.esp Active
	
	Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
	
	
	MzarkWonders.esp Active
	
	Contains dirty edits: 23 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
	
	
	nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp Active
	OBIS.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
	
	
	OBISDB.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
	
	
	Bandit Patrols.esp Active
	towBlockSteal.esp Active
	Undeath.esp Active
	WheezesDungeonPack1.esp Active
	3x magickaregen.esp
	
	Note: Use only one *magickaregen.esp.
	
	
	AchieveThat.esp Active
	ArtifactOverhaul.esp Active
	Bounty Gold.esp Active
	Deadly Traps.esp Active
	FalskaarDawnguard.esp Active
	Khajiit Merchants Buy Stolen Items.esp Active
	LFox Alchemists Have Ingredients Ultra.esp
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
	
	
	Sneak Tweak.esp Active
	Sickly Diseases.esp Active
	SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active
	Convenient Horses.esp Active
	
	Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
	
	
	TheChoiceIsYours.esp Active
	TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp Active
	UnlimitedSprint.esp
	Zbuffed Candlelight Spell R9005B.esp Active
	
	Note: Only use one Zbuffed Candlelight Spell R*.esp
	
	
	ETaC - Complete.esp Active
	SoS - The Dungeons.esp Active
	
	Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
	
	
	SoS - The Wilds.esp Active
	
	Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
	Contains dirty edits: 8 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
	
	
	SoS - Civilization.esp Active
	
	Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
	
	
	EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Active
	ELFX - Exteriors.esp Active
	ELFX - Moonpath.esp Active
	ELFXEnhancer.esp Active
	Better Vampires ML.esp Active
	Predator Vision.esp Active
	WerewolfMastery.esp Active
	Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active
	Horse Whisper.esp Active
	Phenderix's Magic Evolved No Perks.esp Active
	SummonFollowers.esp Active
	Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp Active
	The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Active
	
	Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
	
	
	ACE BYOG.esp Active
	ACE BYOG - Jump Height u100.esp Active
	
	Note: Use only one ACE BYOG Jump Height*esp.
	
	
	ACE BYOG - Starting Skills 0.esp Active
	
	Note: Use only one ACE BYOG Starting Skills*esp.
	
	
	Sneak Tools.esp Active
	Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Active
	Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp Active
	Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp Active
	3DNPC.esp Active
	RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
	
	
	RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active
	RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active
	RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active
	RND_ETaC-Patch.esp Active
	RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active
	
	Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
	
	
	Inigo.esp Active
	CerwidenCompanion.esp Active
	moveitLWT.esp Active
	AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Active
	Random Alternate Start.esp Active
	RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp Active
	SkyRe_Races.esp Active
	Skyrim 3 Day Vendor Respawn.esp Active
	AFTtweak.esp Active
	DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp Active
	Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active
	ASIS-Dependency.esp Active
	ASIS.esp Active
	ReProccer.esp Active
	WTF.esp Active
	
	Note: May need http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. Several test generations of this SkyProc Patch included ITMs. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
	
	
	

 

 

 

 

 

	The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.
	
	HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp Active
	HarvestOverhaul_SkyRe_Patch.esp Active
	RND_AnimalLoot.esp Active
	RND_HerbalTea-Patch.esp Active
	Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp Active
	The Coenaculi.esp Active
	The Staff Machine.esp Active
	

 

 

 

 

 

	
	SKSE Version: 0.1.6.16
	CFM_extensions.dll
	chargen.dll
	nioverride.dll
	SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.15.2.0
	towBlockSteal.dll
	
	

 

Update2: Re-running all of the patchers manually again, without BOSS. Of course, its working fine. I removed one of the enhanced weather system .esps I had. Otherwise, I don't really know what could be causing the crashes. I may remove OBIS and see if that helps. Also, I have never used bandit patrols.esp so maybe that is to blame? It does add many more spawns which is ususally a cause for crash in my experience.

 

Update3: removed bandit patrols anyways, redid all patchers again [it was a master for asis, so I had to] and starting a new character. If I randomly crash now more than once every two hours or so, then something is up and I don't know what. I have never had a completely crash free game, it might crash once or twice in a 5-6 hour gaming session, but thats normal.

 

Another note: I am noticing that melee is very powerful in this build. I am level 1 with an iron war axe with 6 levels in one handed, and I kill thalmore wizards in 3 hits. On expert difficulty. The axe reads as doing 43 damage. The fights seem a lot easier than my last build and magic doesn't even compete with melee. I have not changed anything with this with BYOG. The only other thing I can think of is, because I start with all stats at 0 the game is spawning super easy enemies? Even on legendary stuff like draugr deathlords and wights are nothing for me..and i'm level 3 with an iron war axe and less than 10 skill points in every skill.

Update4: So far only one crash about a couple of hours. It crashed when it was loading the previous save after I died. When I went back in game the save loaded fine so I think it was just a one-off thing.

Edited March 4, 2014 by cronodevir