Uragan907 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Is it possible?To merge those two awesome games into one?Sidorovich in Goodsprings(give him a bunker).The Duty instead of NCR....Bloodsucker in th wastes....It's a dream come true.... No no merge.The entirely new game on the Skyrim engine.All that's needed is a team of caring modder fans to make this dream come true. Edited March 11, 2014 by Uragan907 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennn Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) Impossible, for dozens of reasons.The largest 3: 1. They use different engines.2. Copyright laws would make that illegal.3. The scripting languages are different. Also, Skyrim's engine isn't capable of as good of graphics as the engine the Stalker games are on. Edited March 11, 2014 by Rennn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devinpatterson Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Impossible, for dozens of reasons. I can't comment on skyrim as the platform, but I believe there are some misunderstandings/misinformation here. 1. They use different engines. Yes they do.....as you would expect when doing a total conversion. 2. Copyright laws would make that illegal. Stalker has open sourced their assets for non commercial use. 3. The scripting languages are different. Skyrim & Fallout's scripting is very capable and flexible. I doubt there is much in Stalker that would make a fallout/skyrim analog impossible. Also, Skyrim's engine isn't capable of as good of graphics as the engine the Stalker games are on. I loved stalker for the lore, not the graphics. I don't recall it having a level of graphics that was head and shoulders above other games released in 2007. Skyrim was released on 11-11-11 more than 4 and a half years after stalker. That's generations of tech in the gaming industry. Skyrim has generally gotten some pretty positive comments regarding it's graphics. The assets of stalker that I'v looked at tend to be fairly modest. For example the textures I saw were equal or in some cases lower rez than FONV, much less the high rez texture packs of Skyrim. All that being said, any total conversion is a tough job, and a huge workload. But fallout NV would probably be the logical choice, and some assets are already ported over in current mods. A venture to Russia in a separate world space would be a better choice than a TC (IMHO) and the zone would probably fit well with fallout lore of massive nuclear bombardment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeTheDragon Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Just one correction, as we're already playing lawyers here: 2. Copyright laws would make that illegal.Stalker has open sourced their assets for non commercial use. Rennn's still right about the copyright issues. This is about merging Stalker and FONV assets for use in the Skyrim engine. Even if Stalker assets are open source now, New Vegas is not. Bethesda has a very strict 'not allowed' policy in regards of "using" (<= for some reason many people always confuse this with 'releasing') assets from one Bethesda game in another,and they are enforcing it, as is the staff here at Nexus, according to Bethesda's past inquiry to do so.You aren't even allowed to convert FO3 assets for use in NV, if they're not already part of the Vanilla NV assets, whether used ingame or just left untouched inside the BSAs. However, if you 're-create' all FONV assets you want to use yourself 'from scratch' and don't even touch a single one of the original game files, maps, scripts, sounds, no matter what kind of files, in the process, then using Stalker assets and the self-made re-created assets inside Skyrim sounds about legal to me. This is one hell of a lot of work though and will surely take several years to finish (the last similar attempts to recreate one game in another I know of are on it for >10 years now and still not done).But you're right, a whole team of hard-core determined modders can surely make some decent progress in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devinpatterson Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Rennn's still right about the copyright issues. This is about merging Stalker and FONV assets for use in the Skyrim engine. Even if Stalker assets are open source now, New Vegas is not. OK I see the point your focusing on. For me Skyrim is a non starter. IMHO the only sensible course of action would be stalker assets in FONV (whether a TC or a small campiagn/adventure). For something like that we are good and have a green light right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devinpatterson Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (the last similar attempts to recreate one game in another I know of are on it for >10 years now and still not done). OBTW I'd love to see that, can you provide a link for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeTheDragon Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 OBTW I'd love to see that, can you provide a link for me? Uh, that's what being in different hospitals for a week does to your posting ability... sorry for getting back at you that late. No, I'm sorry, but they're still in breach of Bethesda terms by still requiring actual files from the previous games they aim to recreate even now. I'm not allowed to give any links or even mention their names. As for the green light for using Stalker assets in FONV, as far as the Nexus is concerned that's not up to me to judge, but if Stalker assets indeed are 'open source' now, and going by past experience and the topics you linked I believe they are, I personally thinks it's legal. Didn't the boss say so as well at the end of the OP in that topic? Oh, and at the end of the topic you linked there's a really good explanation for why Bethesda has such a drastic stance on re-use of their assets in other games of their's as well.They'd be the ones getting into trouble, if they did allow it. So they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devinpatterson Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Uh, that's what being in different hospitals for a week does to your posting ability... sorry for getting back at you that late. Sorry to hear that brother :sad: No, I'm sorry, but they're still in breach of Bethesda terms by still requiring actual files from the previous games they aim to recreate even now. I'm not allowed to give any links or even mention their names. No worries, it was more curiosity than anything else. I personally thinks it's legal. Didn't the boss say so as well at the end of the OP in that topic? Thanks for clarifying DrakeTheDragon, I appreciate it. Stay well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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