The Divide Reborn

[Deleted10954978User]

So, thread needs to be started up again since the original mod is being used for something else.

 

Nexusaurus, I don't want to just put something here without contributing, so I have an idea.

 

you say your army has taken the symbols of the old world army and made them their own, right?

 

so, the DDC wears Riot armor varieties, the General and I assume other officers wear general outfits, and the settlers just wear whatever, right?

 

Well, I noticed that you seemed to miss an armor called U.S. army combat armor.

this is the same style, but can be used as a military force.

I was thinking that while the Riot police can patrol the divide itself, the soldiers wearing U.S. Combat armor can be the General's own forces, and are deployed in the wasteland.

while the Riot armor soldiers could be more of a Civilian Militia composed of hunters and ex-mercs, the Combat armored soldiers could be trained soldiers and NCR/Legion deserters.

[Nexusaurus]

GEMR, (can I call you that?), that's a great idea. I was wondering how to differentiate the average soldiers from the General's elite army. This will work perfectly, if it ever gets that far of course.

[sgtKraigO]

So, thread needs to be started up again since the original mod is being used for something else.

 

Nexusaurus, I don't want to just put something here without contributing, so I have an idea.

 

you say your army has taken the symbols of the old world army and made them their own, right?

 

so, the DDC wears Riot armor varieties, the General and I assume other officers wear general outfits, and the settlers just wear whatever, right?

 

Well, I noticed that you seemed to miss an armor called U.S. army combat armor.

this is the same style, but can be used as a military force.

I was thinking that while the Riot police can patrol the divide itself, the soldiers wearing U.S. Combat armor can be the General's own forces, and are deployed in the wasteland.

while the Riot armor soldiers could be more of a Civilian Militia composed of hunters and ex-mercs, the Combat armored soldiers could be trained soldiers and NCR/Legion deserters.

 

That's a cool thought. I could see the Elite Riot Gear being used by the military special forces, the police using advanced and regular riot armour and the military using Combat Armour. I think the standard fire arms for the police could be pistols and hunting shotguns inside the towns while on watch or patrol outside they use hunting shotguns, smgs, and some assault carbines. The military could use assault carbines, marksman carbines, hunting shotguns, light machine guns, and sniper rifles.

 

It would be interesting if the NCR and the DDC worked out a deal for electricity in exchange they send some soldiers to help defend the dam as well as sending some to help in the upcoming battle. It would be fun too see the DDC soldiers fighting along side the NCR.

Edited March 22, 2014 by sgtKraigO

[Nexusaurus]

Yeah, I agree with you about that. Maybe, if you choose to remain independent or get them to join the Legion, you can use riot police to frame NCR rangers for crimes, due to the similarity of the armors.

 

Or, if tensions boil over between the General and the governing council, the DDC Riot Police could try to stop the coup, and the General's army would be the ones attacking.

 

On an unrelated note, how's the mod going?

Edited March 23, 2014 by Nexusaurus

[Deleted10954978User]

 

 

That's a cool thought. I could see the Elite Riot Gear being used by the military special forces, the police using advanced and regular riot armour and the military using Combat Armour. I think the standard fire arms for the police could be pistols and hunting shotguns inside the towns while on watch or patrol outside they use hunting shotguns, smgs, and some assault carbines. The military could use assault carbines, marksman carbines, hunting shotguns, light machine guns, and sniper rifles.

 

It would be interesting if the NCR and the DDC worked out a deal for electricity in exchange they send some soldiers to help defend the dam as well as sending some to help in the upcoming battle. It would be fun too see the DDC soldiers fighting along side the NCR.

 

 

 

I think that you have the right idea, but I think the Elite Riot gear would go towards commanders and such, with advanced being the veterans, and normal being for recruits.

 

[Nexusaurus]

Thanks for the input, but It's actually sort of in-between.

the combat armor is for the military, that is obvious. composed of NCR and Legion deserters, and a few well trained civilians as well. they have all the weapon types.

the advanced riot armor is regular police forces, mainly composed of ex-mercs/bandits. They have moderate skill and automatic weapons. usually can be found guarding caravans or high profile locations.

normal riot armor- volunteer forces. equipped with whatever spare guns are lying around, these are the most numerous, and are found throughout the Divide.

Elite- the anti-terror/S.W.A.T. units. these guys may not look that different from advanced armor, but they make up for it with skill. much harder to kill, and they always travel in groups. currently occupied with search and destroy missions against the marked men and tunnelers, but if a coup happens, you can be sure that these guys will be on the front lines. armed with everything short of lasers and rocket launchers.

 

of course, no one needs to add all that until the pre-alpha mod is up, of course.

[sgtKraigO]

 

 

 

That's a cool thought. I could see the Elite Riot Gear being used by the military special forces, the police using advanced and regular riot armour and the military using Combat Armour. I think the standard fire arms for the police could be pistols and hunting shotguns inside the towns while on watch or patrol outside they use hunting shotguns, smgs, and some assault carbines. The military could use assault carbines, marksman carbines, hunting shotguns, light machine guns, and sniper rifles.

 

It would be interesting if the NCR and the DDC worked out a deal for electricity in exchange they send some soldiers to help defend the dam as well as sending some to help in the upcoming battle. It would be fun too see the DDC soldiers fighting along side the NCR.

 

 

 

I think that you have the right idea, but I think the Elite Riot gear would go towards commanders and such, with advanced being the veterans, and normal being for recruits.

 

 

 

I thought the riot gear was going to the police/guards (since it's so harsh in the Divide) and the combat armour was going to the military for mojave operations. Also what if the normal armour was for the police, advanced was for spec-ops, and the Elite was for field commanders. The police armour could be painted a bit different, the spec-ops could be painted desert camo, and the elite armour was just its normal colours.

[sgtKraigO]

Also with the combat armor I that combat armour should be for regular troops, CA reinforced for the spec-ops, and the CA reinforced mk2 for heavy shock troopers. All painted in either desert camo or something different as I feel the current colours for the CA reinforced and mk2 version are ugly.

[Nexusaurus]

I agree that a change of color is in order, but I do want to keep the Riot Armor and combat armor in separate departments. you see, if a storyline ever gets made for this, there will definitely be a conflict between the elected government and the Armed forces. it would be confusing if you could not tell the difference between friend and foe, so I want to keep Riot armor for the Police, and Combat for the military. that way the lines are clearly drawn, with no risk of friendly fire. I do think there needs to be more variety in the Army divisions, and I am thinking that there should be a mark 2 combat armor of some sort, helmets, and a type of power armor. In addition to uniforms, I am trying to make a difference btween tactics as well for the police and military. Police and security favor versatility and maneuverability, as threats inside the divide require a rapid response by soldiers trained to handle the environment and whatever is causing the commotion, hence the all purpose Riot armor. The General on the other hand, focuses on crushing the enemy with devastating weapons and strong armor. the best comparison is that the Divide Security Commision (DSC) are the UDC's scalpel cutting out the disease with a minimum of material and maximum efficiency and speed, while the DCC are the hammer, a great block of hardened steel that, while slower to mobilize and resource-intensive, is absolutely devastating when used.

 

On that note, if a coup happens, there would be two outcomes. Side with the Council, and you and the rest of DSC hide in the shadows, conducting a guerrilla war and culminating in an assassination of the general. If you side with the general, however, you would be tasked with rooting out the terrorists and bringing the hammer to bear against the last remaining holdouts.

 

and on the issue of color, I think a gunmetal grey or grey tinged with red would be the best retexture, reflecting the harsh nature of the Divide. the star and circle could also be featured more prominently on the armors, as well. Of course, all this can't be done until the pre-alpha gets finished, so do you have any questions or something I can help with on that?

[sgtKraigO]

I'm not a big fan of the "hammer and scalpel" idea. I can't see there being enough people in the Divide to field a large army so they would limited. They should be well trained, fast reacting, and well armed and armoured. The difference between the uniforms would be due to the hostile terrain the police/town guards would be dealing with compared to the military who would be stationed close to the Divide and possibly at Hoover Dam.