459pm Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Here's my load order: Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espFalskaar.esmSkyrim Project Optimization.esm3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmSPIKE.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espFixedEyeAdaption.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espChesko_Frostfall.espBetter Dynamic Snow.espMoreSoundOptions.espADS.espADS_MSO.espAOS.espAOS_DB Patch.espImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.espAOS_ICS Patch.espbetter_torches_brighter_torchlight.espFurther Dark Dungeons for ENB.espAK- Elder Scrolls Music.espStaticMeshImprovementMod.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.espBirdsHFclean.espChesko_WearableLantern.espDead Body Collision.espEpisodeParallax.espfine goods from morrowind.espImmersive Battles.espImmersive Brigands.espImmersive Dragonborn.espImmersive Factions.espImmersive Mercenaries.espImmersive Patrols.espImmersive Travelers.espImmersive Werewolves.espktxcompleteskyforge.espPilgrimsDelight.espReal Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.espSabreFurBag.espsaltpilecrafting.espTamriel Compendium - Skill Books.espTamriel Compendium.espWetandCold.espWetandCold - Ashes.espDYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.espFootprints.espIMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espSkyUI.espiHUD.espIMAGINATOR - MCMenu.espLessIntrusiveHUD.espAMB Glass Variants Lore.esphothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espImmersive Weapons.espisilNarsil.espLore Weapon Expansion.espPrvtI_HeavyArmory.espShields of Jorrvaskr by Hothtrooper44.espTCOSS.espUnique Uniques.esp3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.espWVExpansion.espDr_Bandolier.espAesirArmor.espCornerofTheSkyrim.espInconsequential NPCs.esptreehouse_larger.espMorrowloot.espBook Covers Skyrim.espBook Covers Hearthfire.espBook Covers Dragonborn.espCivil War Overhaul.espAOS_CWO Patch.espESFCompanions.espFasterArrows75.espFasterArrows50.espFasterArrows.espFasterArrows100.espHeadtracking.esphunter's discipline - 100%.espMoreSalt.espSkyRealism - Grass.espConvenient Horses.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-Dragonborn-EBT Patch.espAOS_EBT Patch.espuniquenpcsprotected.espwalk.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espPopulated Cities Towns Villages.espSoS - The Dungeons.espSoS - The Wilds.espSoS - Civilization.espClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.espRealistic Lighting.espRealistic Lighting Patcher.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.espRLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.espRLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.espAOS_CoT 3.1 compatibility patch.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.espClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.espClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-7.espCoT-WeatherPatch.espCoT-WeatherPatch_DB.espCoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.espCoT-WeatherPatch_NL4.espSoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.espSoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.espSoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.espSoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.espSoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.espAOS_SoS-Civ Patch.espSoS - Civilization-PatchSPO.espSoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.espSoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.espSoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.espSoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.espNoSneakAttackSound.espThe Dance of Death.espSneak Tools.espSneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.espSneak Tools Vanilla Masks.espdD-No Spinning Death Animation.espSit Anywhere.esp3DNPC.espUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.espUFO - Dragonborn AddOn.espUFO - Heartfire AddOn.espMy Home Is Your Home.espSpousetocustomhome.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.espsOverEncumbered.espNo More Glowing Edges.espPurewatersDB.espRealisticWaterTwo.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves.espRealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.espRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espAOS_RWT Patch.espGreenWaterFix_Compatible.espAOS_ADS Patch.espFollowerCompatibility.espAOS_WetandCold Patch.espBashed Patch, 0.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.espAOS_CTD_Fix.esptestquest.espBalethor better clothing.espBenduOlo mixwater mill.espBendu Olo's Only Hope.espPeopleEnhanced.espEquipping Overhaul.espProjectileTrails - Never.espRGMsAlchemistsCompendium.espPrometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.espWetandCold - Holidays.espSnowShaderFix.espImmersive NPC in the dark.esp As far as I can tell, everything is optimized. I'm using ENBoost with an ENB and startup memory editor (changed first block to 600MB or something and second block to 400MB or something) I've also used save script cleaner. I CTD every-time I enter windhelm, or approach it from skyrim. My CTDs are not caused by memory blocks, because the memoryblocks.log says I'm a good 200MB or so under the limit of each block when I crash. And my papyrus.log register's errors from wet&cold and headtracking a lot, but when I use a clean save to run the game without them I still crash. Are there any conflicting mods on this list that just pop off the screen to ya'll? I would appreciate the help. :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
459pm Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 BUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeir Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Please replace your mod list with your BOSS log (the one that has all the messages in it). BOSS will also tell you, most of the time, about conflicting mods (such as RLO and CoT). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
459pm Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) BOSS LOG: [spoiler] BOSS Version 2.1.1 ====================================== Summary ====================================== Plugin Type Count Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 136 Unrecognised 12 Inactive 1 All 148 Plugin Message Type Count Warning 0 Error 0 All 42 * Error: masterlist update failed. Details: cURL could not perform task! cURL response: "Protocol https not supported or disabled in libcurl". Check the Troubleshooting section of the ReadMe for more information and possible solutions. * No change in recognised plugin list since last run. * Note: Latest BOSS thread ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1479875-relz-boss-for-skyrim/") * Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date. ====================================== User Rules ====================================== Rule Applied Details (if applicable) Sort "Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp" after "Update.esm" ✓ Sort "Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp" after "Dawnguard.esm" ✓ Sort "Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp" after "HearthFires.esm" ✓ Sort "Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp" after "Dragonborn.esm" ✓ ====================================== SKSE Plugins ====================================== SKSE Version: 0.1.7.0 CellStabilizer.dll MemoryBlocksLog.dll Version: 0.1.2.0 nioverride.dll ====================================== Recognised Plugins ====================================== These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action. Skyrim.esm Active Update.esm Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}} * Note: If you using version 2.0 of the unofficial patches but you see this message you need to download this file: userlist.txt ("https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25091645/Skyrim/userlist.txt"). After the download you need to copy this file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder or add the contents of this file to an already existing userlist.txt. Just ignore this message after updating any preexisting userlist.txt or copying the file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder. HearthFires.esm Active Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active Dragonborn.esm Active Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Stats}} Falskaar.esm Active Skyrim Project Optimization.esm Active Skyrim Project Optimization - Dragonborn.esm Active 3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm Active ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active SPIKE.esm Active HighResTexturePack01.esp Active HighResTexturePack02.esp Active HighResTexturePack03.esp Active Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active MoreSoundOptions.esp Active ADS.esp Active ADS_MSO.esp Active AOS.esp Active * Note: See also AOS compatibility patches ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/44541/") page on Nexus. Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Active Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp Active StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp Active AK- Placeable Statics.esp Active * Contains dirty edits: 7 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). BirdsHFclean.esp Active * Contains dirty edits: 48 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active Dead Body Collision.esp Active EpisodeParallax.esp Active Immersive Battles.esp Active Immersive Brigands.esp Active Immersive Dragonborn.esp Active Immersive Factions.esp Active Immersive Mercenaries.esp Active Immersive Patrols.esp Active Immersive Travelers.esp Active Immersive Werewolves.esp Active UnlimitedBookshelves.esp Active * Contains dirty edits: 36 ITM, 59 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). PilgrimsDelight.esp Active Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}} SabreFurBag.esp Active Tamriel Compendium - Skill Books.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} Tamriel Compendium.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} WetandCold.esp Active WetandCold - Ashes.esp Active DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Active * Note: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1. Footprints.esp Active IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp Active * Contains dirty edits: 26 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). RaceMenu.esp Active RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active * Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author. SkyUI.esp Active iHUD.esp Active IMAGINATOR - MCMenu.esp Active LessIntrusiveHUD.esp Active AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active * Contains dirty edits: 7 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Immersive Weapons.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} isilNarsil.esp Active * Contains dirty edits: 17 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). Lore Weapon Expansion.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} Shields of Jorrvaskr by Hothtrooper44.esp Active TCOSS.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Unique Uniques.esp Active 3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} WVExpansion.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Dr_Bandolier.esp Active CornerofTheSkyrim.esp Active Inconsequential NPCs.esp Active My Home Is Your Home.esp Active * Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). treehouse_larger.esp Active Morrowloot.esp Active * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} * Note: It's recommend to load morrowloot after any plugins that have a Relev tag and change the same LeveledLists as morrowloot because they will add vanilla records removed by morrowloot Book Covers Skyrim.esp Active Book Covers Hearthfire.esp Active Book Covers Dragonborn.esp Active Civil War Overhaul.esp Active ESFCompanions.esp Active FasterArrows75.esp Active FasterArrows.esp Active FasterArrows100.esp Active FasterArrows50.esp Active Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active * Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function. Headtracking.esp Active MoreSalt.esp * Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). * Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} SkyRealism - Grass.esp Active Convenient Horses.esp Active * Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function. dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active dD-Dragonborn-EBT Patch.esp Active AOS_EBT Patch.esp Active aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Active Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp Active SoS - The Dungeons.esp Active * Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. SoS - The Wilds.esp Active * Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. * Contains dirty edits: 8 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit"). SoS - Civilization.esp Active * Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp Active Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Active Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Active Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp Active ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active * Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active * Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul CoT-WeatherPatch.esp Active CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp Active CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp Active CoT-WeatherPatch_NL4.esp Active SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp Active SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp Active SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp Active * Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch. SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp Active * Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch. SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp Active SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp Active SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp Active * Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and CoT patch. SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp Active * Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and CoT patch. NoSneakAttackSound.esp Active The Dance of Death.esp Active Sneak Tools.esp Active Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Active Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp Active dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active Spousetocustomhome.esp Active AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Active AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp Active Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp Active * Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/16712") for compatibly with other skeleton.nif. No More Glowing Edges.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp Active RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp Active AOS_WetandCold Patch.esp Active Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active ====================================== Unrecognised Plugins ====================================== The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed. RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp Active AOS_RealisticWater2 patch.esp Active AOS_USKP patch.esp Active AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp Active Equipping Overhaul.esp Active Immersive NPC in the dark.esp Active Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp Active PeopleEnhanced.esp Active SnowShaderFix.esp Active ProjectileTrails - Never.esp Active GuardAnimationsGDO.esp Active AOS-GDO Patch.esp Active [/spoiler] My game isn't crashing because of memory. I have ENBoost and memory blocks log (though I wasn't able to get expand 64x memory option to work in enblocal) and the blocks are a good 300 MB from switching over. Edited April 8, 2014 by 459pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeir Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Why did you post your papyrus log? It's pretty much useless...and clutters the page. A lot. (In future, put things in [ spoiler ] tags.) Anyway.- Update BOSS. The latest version is 2.2.0.- Clean your dirty mods.- RLO and CoT interior/dungeon plugins conflict. It says so in the messages.- FasterArrows75.esp ActiveFasterArrows.esp ActiveFasterArrows100.esp ActiveFasterArrows50.esp Active^ Why are all of these active? They affect the same thing. Pick one.- Any stability issues can come from Frostfall/Wet&Cold/Footprints/etc. as they have rather hefty scripts, but it depends on your computer specs as well.- As your issues are around Windhelm, look at the mods you have which affect that area of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
459pm Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 Thanks! I'll look into that. I don't know of any mods that I have that change windhelm other than perhaps RLO or CoT. I thought about cleaning my mods, but thought against it. I cleaned my master files, but Gopher said to not clean a mod that's not yours because sometimes modders leave them in because they are required to run correctly. But I will clean them anyway. =] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperman123 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Tesvedit has an option to backup any edited eps so just be sure to do that. Boss usually says if a mod needs its dirty edits also. And like Jeir said you need to disable the interior and dungeon esps for either CoT or RLO. This will help.-editWould be a good idea for you to edit that massive post and add Boss log:[ spoiler] Boss log here [ /spoiler]Papyrus:[ spoiler] Papyrus log here [ /spoiler]delete the spaces so it is [spoiler.. and [/spoiler... Edited April 8, 2014 by piperman123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchan05 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 RLO Weathers and CoT Conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperman123 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 RLO Weathers and CoT Conflict.Ahm, kinda. Follow this and they work fine together. Also DSR isn't compatible with Equipping overhaul unless your using the older version (Beta version has it's own dual sheath thing). And I don't think you can have two water mods. I think you need to choose between pure waters and rwt. Or did you get rid of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
459pm Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 I added the code and it isn't working, but thanks for that link, that looks PERFECT! =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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