Why Bandits take so much time to kill me?

[sonnhy]

Can someone help me to understand why Bandits take so much time to kill me

The case: I'm naked, taking attacks from a Bandit Warrior (Bandit - you name it, from OBIS), on Adept, at the same level as I am (4)

 

I crancked up to Legendary to see if that helps, but it hasn't..
It's strange because a Draugr deals way more damage D:

I think only OBIS, in my mod list, changes how the bandits work, but it may be some else at this point, I don't know..

 

On OBIS page they told me OBIS wasn't the cause..

I'm using MO

 

Load Order:

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Falskaar.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

RCOTS-RACES.esm

SPIKE.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

SplashofRain.esp

AOS.esp

randomthunder.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp

Ars Metallica.esp

Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp

Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp

Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp

AshRocks.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

EpisodeParallax.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

HoldBorderBanners.esp

Immersive Patrols Merged All.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - CoT3.1 Preset by EvilWolf2.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

Footprints.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

HarvestOverhaul.esp

HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp

Beautiful Whiterun.esp

Better City Entrances - All in one.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

high hrothgar overhaul.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp

OBIS.esp

OBISDB.esp

RealisticWhiterun.esp

Riften Small.esp

SBT Smal3.esp

SBT Smal2.esp

SBT Smal1.esp

BetterDocks-MP-DLC-Compatible.esp

AchieveThat.esp

FalskaarDawnguard.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

FA Guard Helmet.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

RCOTS-ApachiiHairPlugin.esp

RCOTS-FriendChildren.esp

RiftenThiefEdition.esp

WhiterunAlivePiano.esp

DawnofWindhelm.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp

ELFX - Dawnguard.esp

ELFX - Dragonborn.esp

ELFXEnhancer.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

Beards.esp

Brows.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

CharacterMakingExtender.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp

AOS_RWT Patch.esp

AOS_WetandCold Patch.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills Falskaar.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp

Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp

SolitudeCapitalEdition.esp

DnnUniqueBorderGates.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

WetandCold - Holidays.esp

Natural Lighting and Atmospherics.esp

[Deleted31005User]

Its not because of mods, its because of Skyrim.

If you enter a dungeon at level 4, you get level 4 bandits.

If you return to the same dungeon at level 80, the bandits respawned are still level 4.

Imo this is immersion breaking but the only way to go around it is not to enter any dungeon until you are high level, but at that point whats the point in even playing the game and doing those dungeons anyway?

 

I also asked about this issue almost a year ago, and people had no answers for it back then either, its a normal feature of the game that everyone else seems to accept.

[fangdowns]

Its not because of mods, its because of Skyrim.

If you enter a dungeon at level 4, you get level 4 bandits.

If you return to the same dungeon at level 80, the bandits respawned are still level 4.

Imo this is immersion breaking but the only way to go around it is not to enter any dungeon until you are high level, but at that point whats the point in even playing the game and doing those dungeons anyway?

 

I also asked about this issue almost a year ago, and people had no answers for it back then either, its a normal feature of the game that everyone else seems to accept.

 

Mmm, but cell spawn resetting mods like immersive creatures change that, right?

[sonnhy]

Its not because of mods, its because of Skyrim.

If you enter a dungeon at level 4, you get level 4 bandits.

If you return to the same dungeon at level 80, the bandits respawned are still level 4.

Imo this is immersion breaking but the only way to go around it is not to enter any dungeon until you are high level, but at that point whats the point in even playing the game and doing those dungeons anyway?

 

I also asked about this issue almost a year ago, and people had no answers for it back then either, its a normal feature of the game that everyone else seems to accept.

 

But I mean, they're at the same level as I am, how come they deal me so little damage at level 4? D:

 

Can you suggest me any mod that improves Bandits damage (specifically bandit becuase other creatures/npc deals a good amount of damage)?

[sonnhy]

I'm doing a more in-depth test..

 

Using the first bear of the game you find (in first cave you enter with either Ralof or Hadvar) on Legendary:

- Skyrim Legendary Edition (which are all DLCs + Alternate Start) -> the bear kills me in 3 attacks

- Modded Skyrim (Vanilla Skyrim + Mod list below) -> the bear kills me in A LOT of attacks (i don't even know since i don't want to wait to die)

 

Load Order:

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Falskaar.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

SPIKE.esm

RevampedExteriorFog.esp

AOS.esp

randomthunder.esp

Remove Interior Fog V2 - Dragonborn.esp

Remove Interior Fog V2 - Dawnguard.esp

Remove Interior Fog V2 - Skyrim.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

HoldBorderBanners.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

Footprints.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

HarvestOverhaul.esp

HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp

Better City Entrances - All in one.esp

AchieveThat.esp

FalskaarDawnguard.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

FA Guard Helmet.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

RiftenThiefEdition.esp

WhiterunAlivePiano.esp

DawnofWindhelm.esp

RelightingSkyrim-Full.esp

ELE-Interior Lighting.esp

ELE HF-Interior Lighting.esp

ELE DG-Interior Lighting.esp

ELE DB-Interior Lighting.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

SolitudeCapitalEdition.esp

DnnUniqueBorderGates.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

WetandCold - Holidays.esp

iNeed.esp

AOS2_DGDB Patch.esp

 

 

 

Please, if anyone had any idea, shoot it below..

Edited April 1, 2014 by sonnhy

[chanchan05]

Use the Unofficial Patches, plus mods aren't sorted properly. For example, Ecksstra should go before Armor Compilation.

[sonnhy]

It can't be the problem.. also, is it only for me or BOSS hasn't updated the masterlist since a lot of time?

[chanchan05]

Depends on what version of BOSS you are using. 2.2 get's updated. If earlier, it's not supported. In fact, BOSS 2.2 recognizes and places Ecksstra.esp properly.

[sonnhy]

Ok, I've updated BOSS (oh well, how come I've forgotten to update BOSS?).. I'll try it out..

[sonnhy]

Ok that's strange.. With Vanilla Skyrim, when i reload the game, a savegame just before the Bear in the Helgen Keep, it deals me about no damage at all, even on Legendary.. If I go from the savegame just at the entering in Helgen Keep, and go trough all soldiers and get to the bear, that bear, on legendary, almost kills me in 3 attacks (or less if powerful)..

 

Someone can test/confirm this?

 

With Vanilla Skyrim I mean, SKSE, all official DLCs and Alternate Start (option chose: I get caught at the border illegally)